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  • #91
    I think the 5pF at 40cm value is wrong. I put them both into graphs and the 5pF in question isn't consistent with the trend or the 1.5cm reading so it looks like a typing error?

    I'd say it's the 40cm or larger distance readings we're interested in so there's no real need to spend a lot of time getting readings at close distances, but I suppose in this case the other reading is useful

    What's the direct connection frequency?



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    • #92
      Originally posted by Nhopa View Post
      I noticed during testing that the meter readings had a "bump" at lower frequencies, but it was small, that is the meter reading hardly dropped at those points. I did not make note of them, but if they turn out to be important I can easily go back and take note of them.
      I noticed this last night too while doing magnification factor measurements. I got confused for a bit at the 10pF peak being so much lower voltage than the direct connection, and then after finding the peak and checking it, the voltage started to rise again as I increased the frequency. But then luckily I remembered your comment and realised what was going on I made a note of the "fake" peak anyway because I initially put it down thinking it was the real one. Didn't bother to look for it in any of the other tests. I did notice though that while exciting the coil at the real frequency, in the spectrum analyser a small bump shows up on the "fake" frequency at the same time.

      Anyway, in my opinion the new extra coil wire length is not correct. The magnification factor is very low. This is primarily due to the tuning through the terminal capacitance. The lower the frequency the coil is tuned to, the lower the magnification factor becomes. This applies to the extra coil tested alone. So I think ideally the coil luminal frequency should be close to F when it's free, so no huge terminal capacitance is required to bring the frequency down, allowing for a higher magnification factor. Tuned down to almost 50% of its luminal frequency the extra coil is not optimised I don't think, and I believe the same applies to the secondary. The frequency is raised to such a degree from the relative tunings up to F that the required capacitance with the existing extra coil means that both coils are tuned down pretty low relative to their luminal frequencies, resulting in a low magnification factor all round I believe.

      Magnification Factor test results, where (n) is the numeric value (20% = Magnification Factor 20).



      This is the problem as I see it: Both the secondary and extra coil need to be tuned down via external capacitance to make them resonant at F when tested alone. When both coils are joined, the frequency of each one is increased, the capacitance needs to be increased to compensate, thus the magnification factor is lowered even further.

      What the magnification factor of the TMT in concatenated mode through various tunings of each component is I don't know, but I think if the extra coil magnification factor tested alone isn't high then surely that needs to be addressed first.

      To solve this problem, the question is, what is the optimum relative tunings of each coil. On this basis then it would seem that one would want the frequency to be raised into resonance at F when both coils are joined, rather than being tuned down to F, in order to maximise the magnification factor. Perhaps extra coils of 100% and 124% of F should be experimented with as a general starting point to this end, 124% being as Raui suggested before.

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      Originally posted by dR-Green
      Tuned down to almost 50% of its luminal frequency the extra coil is not optimised I don't think, and I believe the same applies to the secondary.
      This is wrong. More soon.
      Last edited by dR-Green; 08-14-2012, 12:21 AM.
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      • #93
        The secondary coil magnification factor is now measured.

        The secondary coil is tested alone. Below 47% secondary tuning is not measured as it would require using the condenser plates, and there's no point anyway. The data is again integrated into the previous test results. The vertical axis represents the magnification factor as a numeric value, the horizontal axis represents the secondary tuning relative to F. The voltage (mV) reading follows the same arrangement. Example, 40% vertical axis = 40mV. 100% vertical axis = Magnification Factor 100.

        It would appear that the magnification factor is highest when the secondary is tuned to approx 60% F. Taking this as an approximate and theoretical optimised tuning for the secondary, then by using the extra coil, the secondary frequency is raised by 40% up to F. This is assuming two individual quarter wave resonances in both coils in the concatenated mode.

        Another possibility is that the secondary could be tuned lower than 60%, and the extra coil used to raise it to 60% at which point its magnification factor will be highest. Either way I believe an extra coil with a different wire length is needed.

        Last edited by dR-Green; 08-13-2012, 10:17 AM.
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        • #94
          Lakhovsky MWO

          Eric Dollard's analysis of the Lakhovsky Multi-Wave Oscillator


          Note: much of the background information, and photos regarding the original Lakhovsky Multi-Wave Oscillator (MWO) was taken from a recent engineering analysis of three original Multi-Wave Oscillators that were discovered. That information was obtained from this link, in the form of a pdf that can be purchased: http://users.skynet.be/Lakhovsky/index.htm
          Last edited by jpolakow; 08-14-2012, 03:50 AM.
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          • #95
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            • #96
              What is a Multiple Wave Oscillator

              U.S. Psychotronics Association MultiWave Oscillator (part 1 of 5):
              U.S. Psychotronics Associations - Multi Wave Oscillator presentation (Part 1 of 5) - YouTube

              Lakhovsky MultiWave Oscillator(part 1 of 4):
              Lakhovsky Multiple Wave Oscillator 1/4 - YouTube

              Also take a look at Dave's (Web00x) posts. He has been busy building a MWO
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              • #97
                Secondary and extra coil testing

                dR-Green:
                I did some more testing with the coils. The can was on top of the extra coil (axial direction). Bottom of extra coil connected to top of secondary and ring. Top condenser ring connected to ground as was the meter grounded. I varied the condenser rings spacing as noted below. I measured two distinct frequencies for each test.

                Ring spacing 1st resonance 2nd resonance

                60 mm 984.6 Kc 1,688.2 Kc
                30 mm 922.4 Kc 1,635.2 Kc
                18 mm 873.0 Kc 1,603.0 Kc
                2 mm 735.0 Kc 1,554.3 Kc

                Next I will go back to the new secondary with .087" (almost #11 AWG) and run some test with different wire spacing. Following those tests I will suspend any further testing until I am back home in the US. We are moving back at the end of October, but all household items (including the hobby ones) must be packed for transportation by the middle of September. I will yet publish the secondary wire spacing results and then just read the forum entries. I hope by end of November I will be in position to continue the CRI. Also I may be close enough to Eric to pay him a personal visit. In the mean time I am considering to travel to Belgrade by train and pay homage to Tesla by visiting the Tesla museum.

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                • #98
                  The End

                  The coyote got into the rat poison and is puking violently, soon it will be dead.

                  I have just been informed that Olin Bales has destroyed the Landers Station. The ransom was not paid. My purpose for engaging in this E.G. Forum was an attempt to prevent this disaster, but now this purpose is obviated. Bales made good money scrapping my station and its tools and cars, now he is on to his next victim, with full protection by "The Law". Therewith closes my research, replacement is impossible, the materials are no longer available.

                  No more trips are to be made to "Prison Planet dot T.V.", it is over. If you sleep in a "Revenue Shack" the dog outside your window barks all night, by day it is barking savages whacking at their balls. If you try to sleep outside in your car on some back road, you are interrogated by the Cops. Yes indeed, freedom in "Prison Planet dot T.V." it's great to be free, isn't it?

                  Recently I was asked to be on an Interview by a so called "Free Energy" program. Free again, its all Free. No interest in my electrical work here, just Chemtrails, H.A.A.R.P. and related Soviet Scalar Conspiracies. Then I was called a piece of **** for not being a "Believer". To compound the event it was explained that my response was the result of a "Bad Attitude" and I won't get anywhere like that. Where would I get anyway.

                  Here on this E.G. Forum rested the hope that things could be renewed and or salvaged. This is not the case. At its best the individuals that make this group are indentured into servitude to the Harlot. Little choice exists in this matter, but one is led to believe your life is a result of your choices. In reality to even call it a "Life" is a delusion, and then demand it upon others who want no part. Even the most able, willing, and dedicated are hopelessly mired in the honey that drips from the Harlot. On the other end in the E.G. Forum, the worst, is the sodomizer of sheep, his credo, "I don't know anything, so you don't either." Taking the average between maximum and minimum values is a quantity of little value.

                  Two productive efforts grew out of this interval on the E.G. Forum, The Tesla Trancieving Transformer, and the Parametric E.M.F. This is well under way and there is little for me to add. At this point it seems that the beloved E equals mc Square went down the bowl. No energy equivalence exists in a Parametric Source of E.M.F. But this is yet to be proven.

                  Because of the circumstances outlined above along with others not mentioned I will no longer have any interaction on the E.G. Forum. This is no longer possible. Here the daily routine is to sit in the car in the shade, or hike around for miles in the desert heat. Little else is possible in America, other than to serve her. Thus out of boredom I will in all probability continue to write on those things which I study in the front seat of my car, they most likely will continue to appear here but I am rather inclined to throw them in the trash when finished.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by T-rex View Post
                    Taking the average between maximum and minimum values is a quantity of little value.
                    If that is a reference to my recent tests then it should be pointed out that there are no min max or average readings here. The presented data is simply a visual representation of the respective tuning of the secondary and extra coil that allows for resonance at F - what they are doing when tested alone under those conditions. The values are converted into ratios/percentage with the idea being that it will be easier to see if the ratios are constant on every scale of coil. This is mainly for future convenience of set up and tuning, assuming the ratios are constant.

                    For example, on my existing coil, if F = 3670 kc, by tuning the secondary to 60% of F and the extra coil to 87.5%, then I know I will have resonance at 3670 kc, and the Tandem mode frequency will be approx 50.5%. Any combination of tuning can now easily be set up and tested.
                    Last edited by dR-Green; 08-14-2012, 02:01 AM.
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                    • Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
                      If that is a reference to my recent tests then it should be pointed out that there are no min max or average readings here. The presented data is simply a visual representation of the respective tuning of the secondary and extra coil that allows for resonance at F - what they are doing when tested alone under those conditions. The values are converted into ratios/percentage with the idea being that it will be easier to see if the ratios are constant on every scale of coil. This is mainly for future convenience of set up and tuning, assuming the ratios are constant.
                      I honestly haven't paid attention to your more recent posts due to being busy winding coils and not wanting to overload my mental plate, so my apologies if I am wrong with this thinking. This most recent T-Rex transmission was labeled the 5th of August by the U.S. Postal Service, the same day that I told Eric about his Landers station being disassembled so if your post was more recent than that date, not to worry, not directed at you. I feel that Eric's description of the average value between min and max being of little value was directed at people that say that Eric's (many) observations are wrong and his ideas can't work (minimum observations, Kokomoj0). That was my first impression of the statement... Besides, everytime I talk to him, he seems to indirectly commend your efforts on the TMT.

                      Dave

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                      • Originally posted by Web000x View Post
                        I honestly haven't paid attention to your more recent posts due to being busy winding coils and not wanting to overload my mental plate, so my apologies if I am wrong with this thinking. This most recent T-Rex transmission was labeled the 5th of August by the U.S. Postal Service, the same day that I told Eric about his Landers station being disassembled so if your post was more recent than that date, not to worry, not directed at you. I feel that Eric's description of the average value between min and max being of little value was directed at people that say that Eric's (many) observations are wrong and his ideas can't work (minimum observations, Kokomoj0). That was my first impression of the statement... Besides, everytime I talk to him, he seems to indirectly commend your efforts on the TMT.

                        Dave
                        I see, thanks for the clarification Dave
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                        • Originally posted by Nhopa View Post
                          Next I will go back to the new secondary with .087" (almost #11 AWG) and run some test with different wire spacing. Following those tests I will suspend any further testing until I am back home in the US. We are moving back at the end of October, but all household items (including the hobby ones) must be packed for transportation by the middle of September. I will yet publish the secondary wire spacing results and then just read the forum entries. I hope by end of November I will be in position to continue the CRI. Also I may be close enough to Eric to pay him a personal visit. In the mean time I am considering to travel to Belgrade by train and pay homage to Tesla by visiting the Tesla museum.
                          Sounds like a good plan, it would be nice to see the stuff up close too I'm going to get some of the materials to make a bigger coil tomorrow, but I'm not quite sure what to build yet I'm going to test two different lengths of wire on the extra coil, possibly rewind the secondary with thicker wire to see if the magnification factor peak shifts at all, and then that should be the end of the testing on this coil. Next will be a CRI frequency coil at 882 kc. The frame of that will be made from MDF rings with white PVC round conduit as the rods.
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                          • Originally posted by Nhopa View Post
                            I did some more testing with the coils.
                            Could you test the secondary alone again and see where the magnification factor is highest? I'm thinking that if it's universally around 60% of F then depending on what happens in the next extra coil tests, the secondary could be looked at so it can be tuned to 60% for highest magnification factor, with the size of the coil adjusted to make this fall on the right frequency for the system
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                            • 8.0" Diameter Extra Coil Summary


                              * C is the coupling test capacitance between oscillator and coil.
                              ** Fo is the center frequency measured with a storage oscilloscope.
                              Last edited by Geometric_Algebra; 08-15-2012, 01:55 AM.

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                              • Lakhovsky's MWO

                                Interesting posting by jpolakow. The original patent by George Lakhovsky shows a capacitive discharge MWO. It appears this present posting suggests a inductive discharge MWO. Interesting to note that Dr. Bob Beck's MWO also employed a inductive discharge for which he was criticized in the book "The Lakhovsky Multiple Wave Oscillator Handbook" published by Borderland Sciences. Reading this current posting one gets the feeling that Lakhovsky was all "screwed" up with his design, yet it seems his MWO worked quite well as can be seen in his book "The Secret of Life" and as claimed by Dr. Bob Beck, who rediscovered and publicized the Lakhovsky MWO in the 1960's.

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