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No response?
Is the forum so dead that I post this information and don't get a single response? I can see that checking in here is becoming a waste of time. It has been real.
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You are correct you should have gotten a response, and for that I say I'm sorry, but please know your postings don't go unnoticed. I actually look at this forum in hopes that you or someone has posted something more on the 3bgs thread. I must admit I don' post much at all, and I should I know. I have been working on building a setup using 24 volt wheelchair motors with 76 ah agm batteries. I have also designed a switch that will allow me to rotate the batteries while the system is running, working on the final construction of switch. In theory I am thinking the batteries could potentially switch at a rate of speed that the system could keep all three batteries charged and potentially each one run a load along with the main system load.
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If you come up with a schematic to rotate all batteries through all three positions, let me know. I would love to give that a try while running loads.
We KNOW that runing a load between a high voltage and a low voltage works, and that is what S.E.R.P.S. is all about.Comment
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"The premise of the SERPS is to pull power from a generator through an electrical load to some form of charge storage. The stored electrical charge is then discharged back through the electrical load and through the generator windings which produces work at the load for a second time and simultaneously produces a magnetic motive force within the generator."
From what I understand, a WORKING device was demonstrated at the last energy conference, and they have released the video presentation about it. Not that there will be enough info to replicate it, but it is interesting. Kind of a cross between what we are doing with the 3BGS, a generator, and a Tesla switch.
Now the 3BGS is not SERPS, but compare the highlighted red point. Take power from two batteries in series through the motor to one battery (or two batteries in parallel)
Then switch the positions of the batteries as you would with a TESLA switch. PULSE the motor with this setup, and the motor outputs more voltage than it took to run it, because it acts as a generator. Yes there are losses in the system, but IF that motor is being used to turn a generating device you can provide voltage back to the batteries in the "off" time. And if you have a pulsing device you are running it as a motor some of the time and as a generator some of the time, are you not???
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All I was trying to do here is show that I really do believe we have all the pieces.
The tesla switch proves that if you take power out of batteries in series and send it to batteries in parallel it can go through something and do work WITHOUT running down the batteries, IF YOU ROTATE BATTERIES and if you HIT THEM WITH A HIGH ENOUGH VOLTAGE SPIKE (key).
The 3BGS proves that an OFF THE SHELF motor run between the positives of two batteries acts as a generator putting out MORE power than it takes to run.
(As long as it is putting out 14 volts or higher, you have a "charge state" going on in the batteries.) Will a really BIG motor put out more of a high voltage spike than a little motor? Will a motor run at high speed or on higher voltages put out a bigger voltage spike than a motor run at low speed or low voltages?
If you use your PULSE motor to turn a generator, you can use some of the generated voltage from the (actual) generator to keep batteries topped off during the OFF times IF THEY EVEN NEED IT.
The "Free Energy Generation" book says you need a motor, a generating device, a flywheel to keep it running at speed (since you are pulsing it) and the electronics to make it all work.
Watson did it with the famous "Watson Device" I have seen working devices. I have built one.
I won't share the design of the generator I have built because it is NOT my design, but what does THAT matter?? It doesn't have to be perfect to work. The first one I built worked and I have been working and working to make it better and better. Do you have a rotor with some magnets on it and a couple coils? If you're like me, you have lots of different coils with lots of different sizes and lengths of wire that you've wound over the years. I just started experimenting with what Beardon put out in the "Free Energy Generation" book in 2006, and trying to combine that with the 3BGS and the Tesla switch concept. ALL of these devices work. The SERPS works. We have everything we need to create working devices if we don't give up.
If you have a Bedini wheel, you have your generator already built. Just attach a small motor to it somehow and run the motor between two 12 volt batteries wired in series and two wired in parallel. You will need to pulse the motor, but you should know how to set up a pulse circuit by now. If not, there are lots of them on the forum. You will have to manually switch the batteries every few minutes and you won't be taking the output of the generator back to the batteries, but use that cap dump circuit of yours to collect the output in some caps and dump it into the batteries during the off time. There you have it. Will it be as good as mine? Heck no. But you didn't spend $2,000.00 either.
My generator setup is (hopefully) completed and will be assembled AGAIN today. I have never been able to run it for more than 15 or 20 minutes because magnets would pop out of the rotors or something else would come loose and start grinding or "clacking." Hopefully all those problems are solved. If not, I have some final solutions that I know will work, but will require a rebuild of a lot of the setup and I just don't have the money for that right now. I've got well over $2,000.00 into this thing as it stands, mostly because I have redesigned and redesigned, but also because 12 coils of copper wire is a butt load of money. Especially when they have been replaced several times with different configurations using NEW new wire. I still have all these wound coils that are in configurations that didn't work quite as well. They are NOT useless, but I want the best production I can get.
Buy Beardon's book. I BOUGHT it. But you can find it on the internet in a downloadable version.
If you want to give this a shot, great. If you don't, that's fine too. I'm not here to ram anything down anyone's throat.
The 3BGS has taught me a lot. There are concepts here that I will continue to play with. I said YEARS ago that I believed we were flipping the magnetic polarity of the 3rd battery in the 3BGS setup at times, and that's what got us incredibly long runs. And I have seen that the electrical polarity on battery 3 will flip, especially with large enough loads. So I will CONTINUE to mess with the 3BGS until I understand flipping magnetic polarity on a battery and how to do it AT WILL.
This generator, the 3BGS, the Benitez (Tesla) switch, and Steele Braden's generator are the things I will focus on until I have a better direction to go.
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Very cool Dave, I am curious/excited to hear your results. I am slowly making progress in getting my workshop back together at our new place. I am hoping to be able to get back to experimenting again soon. I have a machinist friend making some of the parts for the rotating of the batteries. I look everyday with hopes that someone is making some progress.
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motor size
Hi Dave, I recently just started a new job so things have stalled. I don't have enough time to keep up. But I have found that the bigger the motors do give more , they draw more but what they give back is more , at a better ratio than the little motors.
You need 4 batteries so 1 is always excepting charge, but not being drained while charging.
I think we need to use transformers... still exp.
My longest runs are always with the dead battery.
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Bigger Motors
Shylo,
I agree that bigger motors put out more in relationship to their size than the little motors do. I think Luther has noticed that also.
I will keep everyone posted on progress. It will probably be three weeks before parts are in and I have it all put together to test. By then I may have my house up for sale finally!!!
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I like where you are headed Dave, I am working on the rotating of the batteries along with running a generator to throw energy back in to the batteries or to use for something else.
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Coil
Maybe just wire one strand of a GIANT bifilar coil into the circuit and as you pulse the motor, collect from the other side of that coil to dump into your cap. Might work even better than a generator. Either that or a transformer.Comment
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Resonance
@Xenophanes, Not sure what happened to your post today, but you are matching our thinking as to what is happening here. This is why Turion is suggesting known resonant additions to this system. It has been suggested that the addition of the third battery, lowered the resonant frequency of the system to that of the commutator, causing the influx that we have seen. However, batteries being what they are, the chemistry of the third battery, along with the resonant frequency changed. This caused an action something like a dog chasing its tail. Around and round we would go, trying to keep the thing in balance (resonance). It has also been suggested, once the third battery repaired itself sufficiently, the resonant frequency would rise above the possible threshold of the existing motor/s. Thanks for your input.
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