3 Battery Generating System

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

The spike and what it does

I think we cannot go very far from the original 3BGS setup. First thing first we must check the waveform produced by the motor and compare it to a PWM output signal. It's a square wave from the PWM but I don't know if it's the same from a regular brushed dc motor. The generated frequency could be important to know too. We must need to know what exact frequency and pulse width is optimal for the system to output maximum power from any motor without draining the primaries. The thing you do with the 3BGS is back-popping the primaries with cold current spikes. The spike is clashing with the resonnant frequency of the dead battery and bounce back into the primaries. This clash induce a collapsing magnetic field long enough to open the magnetic bloch wall to introduce free energy into the system.

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

Wfc Tubes/ Bad Battery

Maybe just build the PWM and take a bad battery in place of the tubes will do the trick. Ajust the pulse width to match both frequencies. Introducing a load on the dead batt will create the LC tank circuit. Inductance (resistive load) in parrallel with the bad batt (capacitance).

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

Create a crystal battery for bad batt

I will make an dry alum crystal battery with a regular lead-acid battery and will see what it does. I just need to know how to sulfate the plates in no time. Because the key here to regular sulfation is time. But I want hard sulfate crystals faster.

[tachyoncatcher]

Experiments

So my conclusion is that OU exists in the magnetic effect of the circuit. The electrical side of things is to produce the "magnetic increase" in the system.
So increase the magnetic effect and therefore increase the efficiency of the system and get greater OU.

The devil's in the detail. The more we look at our experiments (observation/measurement), the closer we get to our answer. So, let's say we have the magnetic side to this that must be just right.

We know there is also an electrical side that influences our magnetics. The two are inseparable in influence. A dc brushed motor creates a kinda multi-frequency, one sided, sine wave(not sure of the terminology). A bouncy DC. Now add sparks and you get very small wave forms mixed in. Now add a disconnect, and you get a trailing ripple and a discharge that has been described as a Scalar Wave (a wave with no time variable). A cornucopia of variable frequency current. My old scope won't measure this, but what if there is an Interference Wave, or Beat, that is causing a Schumann Resonance in the Transducers? And that Schumann Resonance is magnetically coupled to Earth's geomagnetic field. Now we have a small beer tap into immense source .... Two differing frequency waves cause a Interference wave that looks like this:

This is why the ground is influencing our results. It also changes the tuning, so start with a ground. It must be one that is not influence by the grid. Not that a grid ground couldn't work, but as a wise person once said to me, "you must only change one variable at a time" or you are testing randomness. Grid grounds are definitely influenced and charged by the grid. We seek other sources.
Good Luck,
Randy

[Turion]

Just a couple thoughts here.....I realize that the goal here is figuring out the how and the why of the 3BGS so that we can apply those principles to other setups and configurations. I have no problem with that concept, andI believe we need to look at everything.

Second, I don't want us to forget about the magnetics in this setup, and the bad battery switching polarity I STILL believe had more to do with magnetics than electrical circuitry. But that's just me.

Third, don't discount the motor. One of the rasons I have returned over and over to this project through the years is because in every other build I have ever completed, the whole build was about harvesting every tiny scrap of electrical power you could come up with out of the system just to keep the motor running and MAYBE get enough torque to do usable work.

With this setup, the more load you put on battery three the more of a MONSTER your motor becomes, running HUGE loads with LESS amp draw than you began with. POWER! That's what I have seen out of this, and I will never get that out of my head.

Finally,
Kerry sent me something and said I was free to disclose it to all of you. It is his idea of what he believes will work. As long as people are OK with me posting their stuff I am going to do just that every time. We sink or swim together on this, or at least I hope we do.

Well, I tried to post and I guess I am out of attachment space. Anybody have any ideas where I can post this thing and just drop a link here. I know people have done that, but I never pay attention! LOL

Dave

[IndianaBoys]

Well, I tried to post and I guess I am out of attachment space. Anybody have any ideas where I can post this thing and just drop a link here. I know people have done that, but I never pay attention! LOL

Dave

Turion,

You could give the Free Drop Box a whirl:

https://www.dropbox.com/pricing

IndianaBoys

[tachyoncatcher]

OrionLightShip's Idea

Here is Kerry's concept's of what Tesla was doing in Colorado Springs. Dave, I use PhotoBucket. It's free and they provide the link to copy/paste.
Randy

[Turion]

Thanks Randy. Thought I should post that as soon as possible.

Hey guys, I talked to Matt and he said he ran the new schematic of Randy's with lead acid batteries that weren't really conditioned and his primaries dropped. I have been using AGM batteries with good results even though they haven't really been conditioned, and I know Randy has been using AGM's also. Carroll, you're using AGM's also aren't you? Has anyone gotten good results with FLA's????? I'm about to run some tests for the skeptical folks and I was going to use FLA's since that is the only kind you can really test Specific Gravity on. I'm gonna look pretty bad if I don't get good results on that test, so NOW I am a little concerned!!! I ran FLA's all the time with the original circuit and no problems, but I can't do a long test with that setup without losing some on the primaries, and I don't want to do that. Now I'm not sure what to do. Got a few days until I can run the test anyway, because I just NOW got my motor/generator all back together with the four coils mounted. I am really happy with the way it turned out.

MAtt,
I got that frequency generator but either it came with NO probes or someone had taken them out of the box. I am pissed. Got to go buy some that will attach. I freakin HATE buying stuff at Frys. Every other box is a "return" it seems like, and always missing something. So back to the store I go, only no time to do that today.

Dave

[a.king21]

Ravi and conditioning water capacitors

I have had hundreds of hours of conversation with the guy in the UK who first replicated Stanley Meyer - Dave Lawton.
He is the guy who Ravi cloned. You can buy the PWM kit built or in parts here:
courtiestown01 | eBay

I actually don't think this tech is relevant here but the phase locked loop is available. So those who wish to go down that direction can buy a ready built unit. I don't care how we succeed as long as we do.

[citfta]

AGM batteries

Yes Dave, the run I had the other day where my primaries went up in voltage higher than before the run was with some 7 ah AGM batteries. I had conditioned them for a few days on my SSG. The two transducer batteries were also 7 ah AGMs and the buffer battery was a 12 ah AGM that was already sitting there so I used it.

Carroll

[Turion]

Thanks Carroll,

So nobody is running SLA's yet or FLA's that we know of and getting any good results?? Oops! Well, I will be giving it a go too. Hope I have better results than Matt did.

Dave

[LutherG]

Flooded Lead Acid

Thanks Carroll,

So nobody is running SLA's yet or FLA's that we know of and getting any good results?? Oops! Well, I will be giving it a go too. Hope I have better results than Matt did.

Dave

Dave,

My third battery is a flooded lead acid battery... The primaries are sealed lead acid... On my bigger setup I'll be using AGM batteries...

Cheers,

Luther

[Turion]

Luther,
I know that's what you were running with the original 3BGS, and it worked, but now we need to see if it works with the new schematic. Good Luck.

Dave

[Duncan]

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

WoW man! What a post! I will forget about the PWM then and focus on the bad battery and the motor. As simple as that. Thanks duncan.