3 Battery Generating System

[wantomake]

Strange indeed

Hey shylo,

The fluke dmm has a Hertz setting for ac or dc so I just pressed the button. But that ball bearing should stick to a magnet. If this effect will move iron objects around like that, then could there be more to see with this?

Ufopolitics (posted on the video I loaded to youtube) said he thinks it's Radiant energy moving it around.

Even though there is nothing but "interesting effects" to witness here, this is fun and even exciting.

Good effects and strange indeed,
wantomake

[tachyoncatcher]

All part of it

Guys,
The AC is part of the mystery of this system. If you search former posts, you will find an explanation by @Mathew Jones. To even further compound the wonders of this system, when you have the motor running, you can wrap wire around battery3 and light a bulb with it. The battery3 will throw out RF while running. Place a DVM next to battery3 while it is running and your DVM will go crazy. Place a grounded metal plate next to battery3 and watch how quickly your primaries drain. All fun stuf. If you find a good battery3, you can run multiple electrical loads that far exceed what the batteries are capable of, while charging the primaries to a higher voltage. I've seen it with two batteries. I have probably tried between 60-80 "bad" batteries. Great work WTM and shylo. You are on the right track.
Randy

[shylo]

Metal plate

Hi Randy, do you just lean the plate against the bad bat?
I'd like to see that explanation by Matt, very interesting I'm sure.
I think you have to interupt the circut before the dead bat begins to allow flow,when it starts,.. you start killing the effect.
Where should you place the ground? One thing I've noticed is if you ground certian things in certian places you get a different results, I know it shouldn't matter , but it does?
shylo

[wantomake]

Yes and a long track

Thanks Randy,

I've been reading thru the thread and have want to find that posting by MJ. Yes Ufopolitics suggested I try the same thing. But guess that's mute point now.

Wow, that many batteries for battery #3? I was just trying this one I got from local scrap yard. But it did charge up and now I must find another #3.

still strange indeed,
wantomake

[Matthew Jones]

Your not going to get the same effect with the UFO motor. Go back and find out how to wind the simple motor I outlined.

Matt

[tachyoncatcher]

Well lets see

My ground is a 5ft piece of rebar I drove into dampish ground near the roots of a apple tree. The plate was attached to that ground. Yes, I placed the plate next to the battery and held it against with a piece of wood.
The batteries I get from the local battery dealer. I asked them if I could buy a couple dead batteries for a science project I was working on, then bought 6 of them for $5 a piece. When I'm done with them, I take them back and they let me swap them out for another 6 "fresh" batteries. I have a load tester and use that to get the worst batteries I can find. I told them I was using them as a kinda capacitor. They get a little sensitive if you say you're recovering batteries
Mat's comments on this system are here and here.
Here is his motor.
Good luck,
Randy

[wantomake]

Wow, you guys are a great help,

@ Matthew jones,

Ok. I'll do that. Does it need to be 16 segment motor only, or will any size work? But I will check it out anyways. The Ufopolitics motor does produce a radiant energy effect judging from video I posted on youtube. Or was that something else? Just wondering.

@tachyoncatcher,

Thanks, I started reading the entire thread and it is really a good book to have. But I don't have so much time to read all 65 pages. Nice of you to help out here, I really appreciate it.
Yes I was going to test the different effects you and Ufopolitics suggested, but if I can get the different materials then I can.

Yea the scrap yards here in SC, charge 10-15 dollar each. But I found out the #3 is not charged up, instead the ufo motor has strange sound coming from inside it. Upon inspection I found no reason for the noise. Or I burned something somewhere.

I do want the same effect Turion had in his setup and have a strong desire to grow the FE revolution. So to the drawing board again and build the MJ motor. I did download the pdf.

Thanks to All, I respect and appreciate your help,
wantomake

[Turion]

Neighbors

Wantomake,

If you are in SC, maybe you are close to Matt. Never know. The Razor scooter motor is the motor we have been using for this. You can pick one up at the junk yard. As many of us have demonstrated on the bench....running that motor on the 3BGS setup you put in 12.6 or so and get out 15.2 or so, depending on winds, speed, charge on batteries, etc.

My goal at this point, since finding the perfect bad battery still eludes me is to use what we have learned here to get extended run times out of the primaries, while using the motor to both pulse a generator (through a physical connection) and a transformer (between the motor and the battery in an electrical connection) and see what I can get this setup to do. I'm in the process of winding coils for my gen right now. Have 6 wound and need 12. The machine shop is building it to spec, and it is Matt's design, so what I show of it will lbe limited to it running and whether it works or not. Have high hopes since my 2 coil ran like a champ. But this is 12 coils, so who knows.

Will keep you all posted as we keep trying to get this thing working permanently.

Dave

[shylo]

the motor

Dave was your original motor Matts' , when you first expierenced this phenomina..sp
Matt is that just 2 coils seeing the magnetic polarity ,of the 2 permanent mags?( always pushing and pulling)
I see all these rewound diagrams, seems there's room for generating coils?
Which would be better,..
Also ,what ended up being ,the best awg wire for windings, and turn count.
In Randys' pdf the turns of = count , whereas Dave multiplies.
You need a layered commutator, to draw off of.the spike
shylo

[Turion]

My original motor was an off the shelf brushed DC motor, so ANY brushed DC motor will work with this as MANY people have shown here.

I have also used a UFO motor, which worked, and Matt's motor, which works. These modified motors seem to work better. Matt's motor took 50 winds of #23 on each of the segments as explained in the pdf. It is much simpler to build than UFO's motor, and the results you get using different motors are different.

Hope that helps.

Dave

[wantomake]

Tried both types

My original motor was an off the shelf brushed DC motor, so ANY brushed DC motor will work with this as MANY people have shown here.

I have also used a UFO motor, which worked, and Matt's motor, which works. These modified motors seem to work better. Matt's motor took 50 winds of #23 on each of the segments as explained in the pdf. It is much simpler to build than UFO's motor, and the results you get using different motors are different.

Hope that helps.

Dave

Yes, I agree Dave,

I tried an off the shelf and Ufo motor too. The strange phenomenon in #3 came from using the Ufo motor. But the primaries still lost voltage. I want to accomplish what you last posted. To charge up the primaries as the 3BGS runs and produce energy from the loads it powers.

I have IM with run capacitors that (Richoff has posted about in another thread) will produce AC when the rpm's go higher than stated for the motor. I just need to build the controller for it.

So I'm sending for the 23 awg wire and shopping for scooter motor.

Thanks Dave,
wantomake

[shylo]

Where is the spot?

When the polarity switches, there is a spike. correct??
Thats what I see.
shylo

[wantomake]

update

Hello to all,

Just update, I ordered the MY1016 350 watt Unite motor and the 23 awg wire. Both should be here between Friday and Tuesday.

Really interested to add this modified motor to the 3BGS and watch what happens.

Happy experimenting,
wantomake

[tachyoncatcher]

The spike

Hey @shylo,
The spike occurs when the energized coil is disconnected, as seen here. As Mat and Dave said, different motors will give you different results with this setup. Most of it strange. However, if you wish to see the primaries charging, the easiest path is with the MJ pulse motor. This little motor sends a spike in both directions, off the scale on my scope, even at 10x, and in unmeasurable time. We had one experimenter who was able to read the spike on his scope while testing a grounded copper 4in ball. He did this from 30 feet away from the motor.

@wantomake, Way to take action! If I can help, just PM me.

May your experiments be blessed,
Randy

[shylo]

Electron flow

Yes there is a spike by creating flow and interupting it,and you can catch it.
I also think theres a spike, just in the flow of electrons ,from hole to hole, every time an electron moves..it causes a spike?
A vibrating contact on the commutator makes the on,off action that creates all the spikes you want, wire that to a transformer ,and put into caps.
In Matts design you leave 6 poles open(no coils )?
If true couldn't you wind generating coils ,connected to a seprate com. and draw power off it?
Just things that pop into my head
shylo