3 Battery Generating System

[penno64]

Hi Dave,

Thanks for that.

I have an array of SLAs that have been kept - mostly from kids ride ons.

These tend to measure little if any voltage at all.

Will setup and report results.

Regards, Penno

[tachyoncatcher]

SLAs

I tested 7 different, dead Gel SLAs. None worked. I tried a Deap Cycle AGM (didn't know it was a AGM at the time), some success. Primaries still drained, but worked WAY longer than they should have. Used a standard, unmodified, 12v dc motor for tests. I am building a modified version of the motor but couldn't stand it, having all those dead batteries to try. So I used the standard motor. Now I'm pumped! Thanks guys.
Randy

[Alocin Alset]

There are still a LOT of folks out there messing with the 3BGS who don't report in here at all. Some of them PM or e-mail me and some of them have made comments about the 3BGS on other forums, so I know there is still an interest. And these are folks who know a thing or two about this stuff.

Anyway... it's off to the basement I go to gt my batteries charged up and get started with some test runs. And I will definitely be posting here.

Dave

Guilty as charged... Been in communication with Dave through his YouTube channel and have been having a little play with this set up myself... Very keen to engage in this community and offer what I can. The excitement here is palpable, and I look forward to sitting with the rest on here, watching, playing and contributing as this story continues to unfold.

Russ

[Turion]

Remember AGM in position three. Right now the success we are having is with small loads of around 7-10 watts. I have an 11 watt bulb and it runs ok on that. My 25 watt bulb pulls down too much without a load on the motor, so I really have to watch everything. Get a working setup with a small load on battery three and then lets start from there. DON'T BE TRYING TO POWER YOUR HOUSE OFF THIS THING RIGHT NOW. Get a working setup with a brushed DC motor (pulsed would be best...like a Bedini monopole) without any load on it and a small load on battery three. Get it WORKING first before you try to do anything else. And video the dang thing and post it here so others can SEE!

A couple folks have PM'd me or e-mailed me asking "WHAT video, WHAT video???" I have been referring to this video I did of a test of the UFO modified motor running on the 3BGS system. It shows an increase in voltage on the primaries. The starting voltage is on the meters on a piece of masking tape, and if you watch closely, you can see the voltage going UP the different times the camera shows the meter. Even after the motor is shut off. They STILL go up in voltage. and it is NOT a fluff charge.

UFO motor/ 3BGS - YouTube

Dave

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi turion, thanks for sharing those nice results in video.
At the end of video, are the voltages on the stickers when the machine was turned off (no load), or turned on (loaded), thanks.
Those results certainly look worthy of wetting ourselves, hehe.
peace love light
tyson

[Alocin Alset]

Hi folks, Hi turion, thanks for sharing those nice results in video.
At the end of video, are the voltages on the stickers when the machine was turned off (no load), or turned on (loaded), thanks.
Those results certainly look worthy of wetting ourselves, hehe.
peace love light
tyson

The 'Turion Generator',

[Marduk]

"Motors" run for 2 days and battery remains at same voltage.

Hi, this is my first post.

My knowledge of electronics is really, really basic but I will describe what I have done to the best of my knowledge.

I have not used a dead battery, I am using a 24 Volt 3 Farrad car audio cap in place of the dead battery. A small dc motor (both have copper brushes instead of carbon brushes) is connected via it's shaft to another small dc motor. I have noticed sparks in the motors and I am sure that this "excites" the enviroment and that's where the "additional" energy is coming from.

I am not on-line often but will post further results when possible.

Keep on trying,like Thomas Edison!

[Turion]

Alocin Alset,
The voltages on the tape are the starting voltages on the batteries. They were taken and recorded prior to a load being applied, and then verified once the load was applied to make sure they were not a fluff charge.

The ending voltages that showed on the meters at the end of the video are not where the batteries ended up. They continued to rise for the next hour as the batteries rested. Once stabilized, I again applied a load to begin my next testing session and the batteries remained at those same higher voltages under load, and AGAIN increased during the next test run.

The setup is still working and the batteries will increase under load. When I disconnected the motor from the three battery setup to run the tests I promised to run on the UFO motor, the batteries were at almost 14 volts at rest AND under load.

Since then I have drawn down on them running tests on the UFO motor and have recharged them several times with a conventional charger ( except battery 3 of course, which has nothing to do with testing of motors but is necessary for the 3BGS setup.

Marduk,
Great news! What size motors are you using for this? Do you have any info on those motors? Model numbers, etc.?
Let us know how it goes.

Dave

[ehsanco1062]

Alocin Alset,
The voltages on the tape are the starting voltages on the batteries. They were taken and recorded prior to a load being applied, and then verified once the load was applied to make sure they were not a fluff charge.

The ending voltages that showed on the meters at the end of the video are not where the batteries ended up. They continued to rise for the next hour as the batteries rested. Once stabilized, I again applied a load to begin my next testing session and the batteries remained at those same higher voltages under load, and AGAIN increased during the next test run.

The setup is still working and the batteries will increase under load. When I disconnected the motor from the three battery setup to run the tests I promised to run on the UFO motor, the batteries were at almost 14 volts at rest AND under load.

Since then I have drawn down on them running tests on the UFO motor and have recharged them several times with a conventional charger ( except battery 3 of course, which has nothing to do with testing of motors but is necessary for the 3BGS setup.


Dave

Hi Dave

Nice work and results and thank you for the information,I know you said that we should use AMg battery for battery position 3 so I will order for a new one 8 Ah because I couldn't find dead one buti don't know what kind of motor to use I know you used UFO motor and at the moment I don't think that I am capable to modified basic motor to UFO motor ALI will stick with the basic motor option
but what kind of dc motor work butter is it 12v scooter motor or 24v scooter motor and whatis the power of the motor is it 250w or more or less I know that the motor should have brashes but what kind of brushes butter is it the coper or the carbon brushes sorry for asking too many question but I am sure that a lot of the guys here want to replicate your test and I believe they have the same questions as I do .
Thank you

Ehsan

[Turion]

Any brushed DC motor should work as far as I know. We believe one that can be pulsed would work BEST!

[ehsanco1062]

Any brushed DC motor should work as far as I know. We believe one that can be pulsed would work BEST!

Hi Dave


Thank you,so if I want to connect the Bedini school Girl circuit cause I have already one how will be the schematic where I should connect the output because the normal circuit the output goes to the charge battery and if I leave it free then the transistor will smoke even if I use neon across emitter and collector ,any suggestion.
24v dc motor is easy to find do you think that work?

Ehsan

[Turion]

ehsanco1062,

You would hook the Bedini pulse motor into the circuit just like it was a regular motor. It would be between the positives of battery 1 and battery 3.

Take the OUTPUT of the Bedini to a cap, and you could connect the cap to battery 3 to help run an inverter, or you could take it from the cap to a bridge rectifier and run some 12 volt lights with it Whatever you want to do.

If you have the cap dump circuit and timing wheel, you could dump it to battery two, which is the hardest battery to keep charged.

Dave

[tachyoncatcher]

!!!Danger Will Robinson!!!

Ok, I'm dating myself. DO NOT hook your Bedini charging side to battery 3 with an inverter. I have 3 dead inverters as a result. Those collapsing field spikes are murder to an inverter. Battery 2 is a better idea, but I'm not sure how that schematic would look with the standard Bedini circuit having the source positive connected the charging negative. I think you might end up with a short unless you reconfigure a few things. Also, your Bedini will be in series with the load . Make sure your coils can handle the current. I used a 14 coiler. --Disclaimer-- I'm an electronics dummy.
Randy

[Turion]

tachyoncatcher,

You're right, I have smoked a couple inverters myself going directly, as well as a voltage regulator that I put between the output and the inverter. That's why I said to go to a CAP first, ..then battery three. The cap can take those spikes and feed anything over 12 volts back into the battery (and inverter) without smacking it.

Dave

[tachyoncatcher]

Dave,
I killed off inverter #3 with a 1fd 20v cap in parallel with battery 3. Maybe I should have tried it in series??? Computers I know, electronics..., well I'm learning and have a bag full of melted parts to prove it!
Randy