3 Battery Generating System

[altrez]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...7WsknDG4439vV3

Thats the instructions in case you didn't have them. You just need wire. I wanna say 600ft of 24 awg will do the motor. 3 strands per winding. Can't remember exactly how much it takes. Some of the motors will take a skate board bearing.

https://www.amazon.com/Ceramic-Bearing-8x22x7-Bearings-VXB/dp/B002BBQDW0/ref=pd_day0_hl_328_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B002BBQDW0&pd_rd_r=d5d2ce11-9327-11e8-a9b7-f9452d2c743a&pd_rd_w=cD3OB&pd_rd_wg=eRWbK&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=1675207170591242776&pf_rd_r=NJNF14563J3TZH9KE6Y2&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=NJNF14563J3TZH9KE6Y2

If you have set of calipers you can measure the inside spots for bearings see if the ceramic will fit, Or you can just buy a set of regular bearings. The stock bearing aren't great.

You might want to be able to tune past the screws so some thing to clamps the motor together from end to end. I didn't do this except to test and then I built a new brush plate that mounted on the back with the adjustment prebuilt into it, but I gotta CNC to make those things, not so easy without it.

I can't think of anything else.

Matt

Will this wire work?

https://smile.amazon.com/Remington-Industries-24SNSP-Enameled-Diameter/dp/B007OYG9HS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1532866526&sr=8-4&keywords=24+awg+magnet+wire

-Altrez

[Matthew Jones]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL68QpDu4jKQXnhp7H7p7WsknDG4439vV3

Thats the instructions in case you didn't have them. You just need wire. I wanna say 600ft of 24 awg will do the motor. 3 strands per winding. Can't remember exactly how much it takes. Some of the motors will take a skate board bearing.

https://www.amazon.com/Ceramic-Bearing-8x22x7-Bearings-VXB/dp/B002BBQDW0/ref=pd_day0_hl_328_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B002BBQDW0&pd_rd_r=d5d2ce11-9327-11e8-a9b7-f9452d2c743a&pd_rd_w=cD3OB&pd_rd_wg=eRWbK&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=1675207170591242776&pf_rd_r=NJNF14563J3TZH9KE6Y2&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=NJNF14563J3TZH9KE6Y2

If you have set of calipers you can measure the inside spots for bearings see if the ceramic will fit, Or you can just buy a set of regular bearings. The stock bearing aren't great.

You might want to be able to tune past the screws so some thing to clamps the motor together from end to end. I didn't do this except to test and then I built a new brush plate that mounted on the back with the adjustment prebuilt into it, but I gotta CNC to make those things, not so easy without it.

I can't think of anything else.

**Added this.. You may get extra wire in case your first attempt fails. Its not an uncommon thing. Better to have wire and not need it .....

Matt

[altrez]

Hey Altrez,
Try this YouTube link:

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCGVcH_sVjarbs-vvfSeUQ8w

I'm sure Matthew will give more info as he sees you want to build this modification of his motor. But these videos got me started.

wantomake

Thank you wanttomake. I will be ordering parts next week and posting everything I do to help everyone move forward.

-Altrez

[wantomake]

Youtube link

Hello everyone,

I am going to start ordering supplies for the motor modification and was wondering of those of you who have built it could you please post a parts list. My goal is to make absolutely sure I am buying all of the recommend stuff.

It would also be nice to get as much as I can off Amazon so it is a one stop shop to get the parts to build this motor.

The plan is to build and test the motor and post all the results. When I have it done I will build another one and send it to one of the people in this group to test as well.

Getting excited!!



-Altrez

Hey Altrez,
Try this YouTube link:

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCGVcH_sVjarbs-vvfSeUQ8w

I'm sure Matthew will give more info as he sees you want to build this modification of his motor. But these videos got me started.

wantomake

[altrez]

Hello everyone,

I am going to start ordering supplies for the motor modification and was wondering of those of you who have built it could you please post a parts list. My goal is to make absolutely sure I am buying all of the recommend stuff.

It would also be nice to get as much as I can off Amazon so it is a one stop shop to get the parts to build this motor.

The plan is to build and test the motor and post all the results. When I have it done I will build another one and send it to one of the people in this group to test as well.

Getting excited!!



-Altrez

[Turion]

Lol

Matt,
Once you show them they won't have any more excuses for not building this except $$. What will they have to whine about?

But don't worry. At least one of them will claim that it's a "fluff charge" on the battery and it has REALLY lost voltage but we don't know how to measure it. Or you are using faulty meters or something.

They won't be able to get it through their heads that it is for real. I know all the whiner tricks. I have been observing them for ten years.

[bistander]

duty cycle

93% duty cycle. No matter the speed.

Looks more like ~50% on Gotuluc's scope.

[Matthew Jones]

45 people watching. Watch now, you know good info is coming, Its always near when the man sends his minions in to disturb the thing. You see bisexual is hard at trying to implant the doubt. He's about to loose his bonus, but the fact is compared to the disturbance of Bromikey this bisexual clown is a flat out rookie.

Bisexual go over to BroMikeys desk and get some pointers you need the help of a senior disturber.
In the end all you are going to be out of a job....

Tomorrow I'll show you the GEN frame, then I gotta wind and tune the coils. That is as long as the power don't go out. Lightning everywhere tonight.

Stay Tuned!!!!

Matt

[Matthew Jones]

93% duty cycle. No matter the speed.

[bistander]

Cutting up current

I would think that would depend on the PWM you are using. If it actually bucking thats not a problem. If its just cutting up your current with a timed on and off that is a problem.

Doesn't the Matt modification to the motor cut up the current with a timed on and off?

[altrez]

Hello Everyone,

Here are the final results of my tests.


Here is the basic battery test using only the motor, a 12v 7.2ah battery and a PWM:






And here is the final tests for the one battery circuit's 12v 7.2 ah battery:






I hope this test was helpful to some of you. It ran for 3 hours and I let it rest for almost 20 hours before taking measurements.

-Altrez

[Matthew Jones]

Hello bistander,

Do you have some links you could share on this?

Thanks!!

-Altrez

I would think that would depend on the PWM you are using. If it actually bucking thats not a problem. If its just cutting up your current with a timed on and off that is a problem. You can look up Volt-Second principles. Its 101 engineering for sure. Lots of things fall under Volt-Seconds principle its really useful concept to know.

Matt

[wantomake]

Looks good

After thinking about this a bit. I have decided to add a PWM to the basic test to control the power going to the motor. I want the power going into the motor to be as close to the same on each test.

If I just hook it straight up to the battery it will run wide open. I will sync up the basic test to the one battery circuit test in regards to power going into the motor to keep things fair.

Any thoughts?

-Altrez

Thanks for being part of this. Looks like good setup. Would like to see more do this and yes me too.

Maybe get some shop time tonight if contractors get done today.
Sorry no thoughts to add.
wantomake

[altrez]

Hello Altrez,

PWM motor controllers are buck converters and operate efficiently employing current multiplication through a freewheeling diode. Matt is incorrect. They do not waste 50% of the power at half voltage. Please don't believe me and look up buck converter or PWM DC motor controller.

Regards,

bi

Hello bistander,

Do you have some links you could share on this?

Thanks!!

-Altrez

[Turion]