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  • Matthew Jones
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    Last time I talked to Dave he was scared sh*tless. Fearless leader???

    LOL

    Just bustin balls LOL

    Matt

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  • wsxian2
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    very interesting

    I am home sick today from work. Got a new job that requires 1 hr commute each way so I have lots of money but very little time, the opposite of what I had previously so I have not been able to do anything for some time (my workshop is outdoors).

    Anyway, what I was wondering was in regards to the magnetic polarity of the battery was whether we could use a magnet (if it was long enough) to connect to the Positive and the negative posts and see if that effects the magnetic polarity of the battery.

    Has anybody tried this? Have no clue how strong it has to be.

    Also, this 3 motor setup is very interesting! I only have two motors but when well enough I will try with the two.

    So hang in there David, we are all still trying to duplicate results, but for some of us, it just takes time to get where we need to be.

    I bow to you as our fearless leader!

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  • Turion
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    Unfortunately, that has only happened once in seven years, and I have made quite a few test runs in that time, so chances of me catching it happening again aren't very good. I believe Duncan and at least one other person has seen it also, and Duncan might have been smart enough to video it at the time. I remember he posted something about it.

    Dave

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  • Farmhand
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    liber63 saw some charging of his primaries, which I did NOT see, but I have learned NOT to doubt the differing results folks come up with when they run this thing. Batteries, length and size of wire, almost ANYTHING can affect the results. A couple people, me included, have even had their batteries ice up while running this setup, so have fun with it. It's all about seeing what we can learn.

    Dave
    I would strongly urge you to photograph that icing next time it happens.

    ..

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  • wrtner
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    A couple people, me included, have even had their batteries ice up while running this setup
    Dave
    That could be very profound.

    At the UK Free Energy Conference in 2007 (or '08, I can't remember which) we were told that certain free energy motor projects had a way of accumulating frost on parts of the motor, the effect increasing with increasing power.

    The rate of change of temperature could be an indicator to watch for.

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  • Turion
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    liber63 saw some charging of his primaries, which I did NOT see, but I have learned NOT to doubt the differing results folks come up with when they run this thing. Batteries, length and size of wire, almost ANYTHING can affect the results. A couple people, me included, have even had their batteries ice up while running this setup, so have fun with it. It's all about seeing what we can learn.

    Dave

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  • Sawt2
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    Dave
    That is amazing in my opinion. I am excited to try that setup, I have several 24V wheelchair motors to use. They run fine on 12V just not as fast.
    Thank you for reporting and experimenting.
    Sawt2



    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    I ended up with a 26 hour run where at least the first motor was running at the same speed the entire time. (for almost 24 hours all THREE motors were) At the end of that time my primaries were down to 3 or 4 volts each. I have since recharged both of them and I notice that where they would only charge to full at around 12.4 or 12. 5 volts, they are now accepting a charge to over 13 volts. So rather than HURT the primaries, this seems to have helped to desulphate them. These are pretty old batteries that have taken a beating over the years as I have run them down to these LOW voltages many times using the 3BGS.


    If you run just ONE motor off these batteries, it will suck that battery dry in less than two hours, so I consider that a pretty decent extension of the run time.
    Dave

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  • Turion
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    I ended up with a 26 hour run where at least the first motor was running at the same speed the entire time. (for almost 24 hours all THREE motors were) At the end of that time my primaries were down to 3 or 4 volts each. I have since recharged both of them and I notice that where they would only charge to full at around 12.4 or 12. 5 volts, they are now accepting a charge to over 13 volts. So rather than HURT the primaries, this seems to have helped to desulphate them. These are pretty old batteries that have taken a beating over the years as I have run them down to these LOW voltages many times using the 3BGS.


    If you run just ONE motor off these batteries, it will suck that battery dry in less than two hours, so I consider that a pretty decent extension of the run time.
    Dave

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  • Sawt2
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    Dave
    I have been waiting to hear the final outcome of your run with three motors.
    We are almost finished moving, I am looking forward to being able to experiment again, the three motors in series really peaks my interest, just because of what I have seen with this 3 battery setup.


    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    Motors two and three have come to a complete stop. Motor one is still spinning at what appears to be the same speed it has maintained all along.

    Battery one has flipped polarity and is reading -2.3 volts
    Battery 2 is down to 5.6 volts.
    Battery 3 shows less than a volt
    Yet the motor is running at the same speed it was in the video.

    Dave

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  • Turion
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    Motors two and three have come to a complete stop. Motor one is still spinning at what appears to be the same speed it has maintained all along.

    Battery one has flipped polarity and is reading -2.3 volts
    Battery 2 is down to 5.6 volts.
    Battery 3 shows less than a volt
    Yet the motor is running at the same speed it was in the video.

    Dave

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  • shylo
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    Hi All, Dave Thought I give it try But my motors are all different. The only one that runs is Matts'.
    I have one stock, A modified Matts' and one I put magnets around the armature out of an AC fan. My Ufo motor keeps tearing the brushes away.lol
    Matts' motor turns slow ,but great torque , it only draws 1/2 an amp, even when loaded.
    Tried various arrangements but couldn't get the other two to turn ,only hooked by themself.
    I was using just a dead lawn tractor battery it read 12.06 v when I started ,I'll see where it comes to rest.
    Interesting...artv

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  • Turion
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    It has now been over 24 hours, but I need to report that motor number three, which is the one directly connected to the bad battery and the slowest of the three motors, has slowed down since my last report. I would venture to say that it will probably come to a halt within the next couple hours at this rate. How long the other two will continue to run is yet to be determined.

    Dave

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  • Turion
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  • Turion
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    I have a three motor setup that has been running for five hours now and is still going strong. The interesting part is that the light attached to battery 3 WILL NOT LIGHT UP. It barely lit up when first connected, and when I connected a 25 watt bulb along with it, neither light would come on, and yet the motors are running STRONG.

    3Motor 3BGS - YouTube
    Last edited by Turion; 06-26-2014, 02:33 PM.

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  • Matthew Jones
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    Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
    Can't help but wonder if you're creating multiple points of entry for radiant energy with the combined on-off switching of each motor, and perhaps even heterodyning frequencies, creating new points of RE entry. That is, exciting the electrostatic environment at multiple frequencies to allow RE to enter the system.
    I do not know if it has as much to do with entry points as it does stepping up the voltage. With the 3 motors the current drops slightly between each motor but the voltage goes up. So at some point the voltage is high enough when hits the dead battery on the positive plates it induces the opposite charge on the negative plates and charges the primaries on the ground side.

    I think 3 boost oscillators might do the same thing, maybe just one with a big enough coil.

    Matt

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