Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[Slovenia]

Mr. "C" Message to Osamaricu_te

Message for Osamaricu_te

Dear Sir,
I'm very sorry that you were unable to create a sonic boiler you have spent "a lot of money and time" But be persistent, not easy to make a sonic boiler because it is a musical instrument and heater, I will help you in this your work.
I do not speak English. I feel I know the Serbian language and is fluent in English so I asked you to be my translator on Google translator because energetic forum very bad translations.
This will contribute to the project and open sours that people in the world for less heat
Greetings from your homeland prof. Savic

[Slovenia]

Mr. "C" Reply to Boguslaw

New English Translation Added (Compliments of osamaricu_te)

Reply to Boguslaw:

Frequency of 200 Hz is good, but you need to find proper distance between electrodes.
Distance between electrodes is not the same at 100, 200 or 400 Hz.
Cap or ring must play at least 1 octave higher than then can, which must play at 50Hz for EU or 60Hz for USA.
Be persistent you will make it. Sonic boiler is not just a heater, it is musical instrument as well.
Building an instrument is not easy.
For ring part use steel and aluminium for the can, or brass for ring and steel for the can.

Greetings prof.Savic Serbia

[Slovenia]

Thanks!!

Much easier to understand translation than Google Translate. Thanks!!

New English Translation Added (Compliments of osamaricu_te)

Reply to Boguslaw:

Frequency of 200 Hz is good, but you need to find proper distance between electrodes.
Distance between electrodes is not the same at 100, 200 or 400 Hz.
Cap or ring must play at least 1 octave higher than then can, which must play at 50Hz for EU or 60Hz for USA.
Be persistent you will make it. Sonic boiler is not just a heater, it is musical instrument as well.
Building an instrument is not easy.
For ring part use steel and aluminium for the can, or brass for ring and steel for the can.

Greetings prof.Savic Serbia

[PhysicsProf]

thats unusual to hear from you... I never said time invested is lost or did I say its crap. I just said that with the equipment I bought solely for this experiment, that can change frequency of AC as desired to match ANY frequency you can come up with has shown no change what so ever in COP.[snip]


I am truly glad for you and if one day I manage to do the same will post it.

Until then...

osamaricu_te -- do I understand correctly, that you speak Serbian? this is great if so!

Secondly, are you located in or near Serbia?

You wrote: " the equipment I bought solely for this experiment, that can change frequency of AC as desired"

Can you describe this equipment for us? I'm very interested in what you have.

And thanks for jumping in and doing experiments! as I have also done, but I feel like I'm just getting started.

[osamaricu_te]

osamaricu_te -- do I understand correctly, that you speak Serbian? this is great if so!

Secondly, are you located in or near Serbia?

You wrote: " the equipment I bought solely for this experiment, that can change frequency of AC as desired"

Can you describe this equipment for us? I'm very interested in what you have.

And thanks for jumping in and doing experiments! as I have also done, but I feel like I'm just getting started.

I know several languages, other than mentioned and no, I am not in or from Serbia.

Equipment is from past but I just needed something stronger. I did experiments before with sound amplifier, but it wasnt strong enough so yes, I bought the strong more expensive one just for this purpose. Should you chose this very versatile solution you will need a VERY strong sound amplifier hooked to your PC. If you have such device will be glad to to assist should you need any of assistance.

To be honest above post was for you and cheryman, playing with tubes needs to have some direction to it. As you can see professor, I am sort of a champion of random testing and testing without some calculations before so I suggest you check my long post above before you decide to test some tubes, cause you need some sort of a plan so I have been reading about it, will post in case I get a breakthrough...

[grizli]

I know several languages, other than mentioned and no, I am not in or from Serbia.

Equipment is from past but I just needed something stronger. I did experiments before with sound amplifier, but it wasnt strong enough so yes, I bought the strong more expensive one just for this purpose. Should you chose this very versatile solution you will need a VERY strong sound amplifier hooked to your PC. If you have such device will be glad to to assist should you need any of assistance.

To be honest above post was for you and cheryman, playing with tubes needs to have some direction to it. As you can see professor, I am sort of a champion of random testing and testing without some calculations before so I suggest you check my long post above before you decide to test some tubes, cause you need some sort of a plan so I have been reading about it, will post in case I get a breakthrough...

Put signal that consist of two sines 50 and 400 hz at the imput of strong audio amplifier .

Use small electrides, like two cups.. NOT beer can. If we use current that consists of two harmonics than we DO NOT need beer can, nor special metal objects that resonates at particular frequency, we just need two electrodes that are ELASTICLY mounted , so they can FREELY vibrate at frequency of vibration which is produces by the current passing electrodes and water gap.

If you have posibility, please make such experiment and post results.. Try to vary frequency of base signal, and to tune higher harmonic precisely and watch the results ..

[boguslaw]

My message to prof Savic

Mr Savic

I think that two frequencies 50hz and 400Hz produce beat frequency which is the rotor part of this device causing beer can walls to deforming around cimcumference 65mm.Water viscosity help rotate water inside like in Tesla turbine.Sound 50hz is "smeared" around like when someone is rubbing beer can around edge 9or a wine glass too).Proper gap is needed and proper tuning of ring/cap above beer can to create such beat. From my intuition I suspect that beer can will oscillate at 50hz due to large current anyway (but polishing it to ge real 50hz resonance will help with amplitude of this oscillations).
If the effect is the same as in singing tibet bowl when water inside is rotated then with sound we produce the same high speed like in big cavitation steamers.
If you would be so kind , please confirm or correct that theory.

Best regards
Boguslaw

[PhysicsProf]

Thank you for your responses -- and for your research, osa... much appreciated.

I have received an email from Prof Savic, which he asked that I post here.
I do so (with the caveat that I do not share his views regarding neutrino effects here). I did not get the Serbian this time, just the translation:

PROF SAVIC: How does the sonic boiler:

90% vacuum is composed of neutrinos.
Neutrinos travel faster than the particle pushing svetlosti.Čestica as a sound wave,because the tunes as musical instrument.
neutirno guess when the crystal lattice of metals, ends the last electron orbital.
Affected by the electron is lost from this dimension in the field kvantnome a moment when he returns to pick up on the collapse of 7 times more energy than he had.
The energy we spend the resonances to 1 / 4 wavelength to the diameter of a hemisphereand a ball or cylinder sonic boiler.
It's pure electricity is condensed on the ball or hemisphere, or cylinder.
The electricity is passed through a otprnik to the water, creating heat,
The water molecules resonate and viibriraju on the same wavelength and energy of itssubmission to the radiator rezonanacon transferred to the air and our body resonates and absorbs the energy from the air and we feel the heat.
summary:
Sonic boiler captures high-frequency waves (microwaves) from the high-frequency systemwhose shape and dimensions and translates into a lower frequency electric resistanceheat dif water.
Sonic boiler used the electricity network as the excitation frequency and energy of thequantum fields that are condensed into a ball heater. and therefore has a COP greater than 1

Publish this on forum

[osamaricu_te]

Put signal that consist of two sines 50 and 400 hz at the imput of strong audio amplifier .

Use small electrides, like two cups.. NOT beer can. If we use current that consists of two harmonics than we DO NOT need beer can, nor special metal objects that resonates at particular frequency, we just need two electrodes that are ELASTICLY mounted , so they can FREELY vibrate at frequency of vibration which is produces by the current passing electrodes and water gap.

If you have posibility, please make such experiment and post results.. Try to vary frequency of base signal, and to tune higher harmonic precisely and watch the results ..

I MOST CERTAINLY WILL! Thank you for that idea, didnt think of it (ili ti razumijes ovako?)
will post results... stay tuned... tomorrow

Thank you for your responses -- and for your research, osa... much appreciated.

I have received an email from Prof Savic, which he asked that I post here.
I do so (with the caveat that I do not share his views regarding neutrino effects here). I did not get the Serbian this time, just the translation:

Hi prof. I have translated that message 100% correct just waiting for prof.Savic to say it is ok and it will be posted here. Do notice, when I translate I do NOT make and deviations from words of original message. Everything is translated word to word in a way that is completely understandable. If there is anything I changed according to my opinion, it will be put in as remark right aside with original translation.

[PhysicsProf]

Thanks for your help in translating, osa...
Prof Savic just sent the Serbian which you can look at:

[Cherryman]

Put signal that consist of two sines 50 and 400 hz at the imput of strong audio amplifier .

Use small electrides, like two cups.. NOT beer can. If we use current that consists of two harmonics than we DO NOT need beer can, nor special metal objects that resonates at particular frequency, we just need two electrodes that are ELASTICLY mounted , so they can FREELY vibrate at frequency of vibration which is produces by the current passing electrodes and water gap.

If you have posibility, please make such experiment and post results.. Try to vary frequency of base signal, and to tune higher harmonic precisely and watch the results ..

I Have seen that technique before, I will try to find it.

I t was a Japanese professor if I remember correctly, and used the same technique to produce Hydrogen.

Tnx For the Input.

Edit: Could not find the video (yet) but his cell looked like this:

Thin plates horizontal aligned, vertical stacked, connection to one side and free to resonate. He was able to make enough power on demand with it to run a car (If My memory serves well)

[RAMSET]

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[PhysicsProf]

Chet:

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Thanks for the re-post Chet; the two bolded links above have
"dried up" ... at least they don't work for me. Can you try again?

[RAMSET]

I'll send him a mail..........

Thanks for pointing that out Steve ...

Chet

[Slovenia]

Message from Mr. "C"

English Translation (Compliments of osamaricu_te)

90% of vacuum is composed from neutrinos.
Neutrinos travel faster than light. One particle pushes the other particle like a sound wave and that is why it is tuned as musical instrument.
When neutrino strikes the crystal bar of metal, it pushes out the last electron on orbital.
Electron that was pushed out, gets lost out of this dimension in quantum field for a moment and when it returns, by collapsing it collects 7 times more energy compared to what he had.
That energy is captured by resonance at 1/4 of wave length and that is half diameter of half sphere and of sphere or of sonic boiler cylinder.
That is pure electricity and it is condensed in sphere, half sphere or cylinder.
That electricity is passed through a resistor, resistor being water which in return creates heat.
Molecules of water resonate and vibrate at same wave length and transmit their energy to a radiator who by resonance transfers it to the air and then our body soaks that energy through the air and we feel warmth.

Summary:
Sonic boiler catches high frequency waves (microwaves) from a system of high frequency with its shape and dimension, then converts lower frequency into heat through electrical resistance of water.
Sonic boiler uses network electricity as exciting frequency and energy of quantum field which is condensed in ball of heater (this part here "ball of heater" I believe it is sphere of heater, do notice that is my understanding and word to word translation is ball of heater) and that is why it has COP >1

Regards,
Prof.Savic