Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[petar113507]

Hi Boguslaw,

I have enough information then to do the precise figuring for you then, because a standard European can is 65mm in diameter. I will provide you with the math I used to figure the length of the stainless for the ring. Remember, you need to add enough extra manterial on both ends of the ring for your ring holder and overlap piece. To figure the length of the material around the ring, you first have to figure the circumference of the ring with the formula below.

Formula:
Circumference = (3.14) X (Diameter of ring) = Ring Length!!
Circumference = (3.14) X (65mm + 2.1mm + 2.1mm)69.2mm
Circumference = (3.14) X (69.2mm) =
Circumference = 217.288mm = Ring Length

Ring Holder Tab = 13mm X 2 = 26mm
Tab Retainer Flap = 7mm

Brief Summary of Ring Info.:
You have to have extra material for your ring holder tab on each end of the ring material as well as an extra tab retainer flap material on one end to fold over and hold the tabs in place.

So, you need to add the Length of Ring + Tab Length + Tab Length + tab retainer flap = Total Length of Required Ring Material!!

Total Length Required = (See Below!!)
Circumference + 2(Tab) + Tab Retainer Flap
217.29mm + 2(13mm) + 7mm
Total Length Required = 250.29mm


You need to request strips of stainless 250.29mm X 5mm from Daemonbart. I'll draw you a diagram to show where you fold the metal for the ring too. I'll do that for you this evening.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Slovenia, do you know why Pi (3.14) is being used as that calculating number? I don't, but I know that Walter Russell's diagrams and charts were found to use that number as well, somehow. I think one of the diagrams was "Law of crystallization" that used it.

That just stuck out to me -- very interesting. It says to me that the boiling phase shift could be related to crystals somehow. "All matter is crystalic in nature" -- W.Russell.

Again, Good work. I don't mean to derail anything here, your builds look promising and I can see something quirky about them.

==Romo

[Slovenia]

Constant Pi

Hi Romo,

Yes, 3.14 is a constant that is required to be used in the formula for figuring circumference and also (Many) other formulas as well. As for why specifically it needs to be used, I don't understand the theory behind that, but I had to accept it's use on faith while taking higher Math and Physics because it was often a required constant in the formulas we were required to use. Walter Russel would have been able to explain the theory to us and I believe Mr. "C" too. But, I think for now we should just accept it. I can't wait to get my next phase of boiler made but I still have some tinkering before I'm ready to make that jump.

I appreciate the pat on the back. It took a little effort to come up with that design. I did that one mostly so others could see what was going on inside the reservoir during operation. My real boiler will be made from sewer pipe and nobody will be able to see what's going on inside it. We're still playing with the experimental phase here but it does look very promising indeed. Thanks!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Slovenia, do you know why Pi (3.14) is being used as that calculating number? I don't, but I know that Walter Russell's diagrams and charts were found to use that number as well, somehow. I think one of the diagrams was "Law of crystallization" that used it.

That just stuck out to me -- very interesting. It says to me that the boiling phase shift could be related to crystals somehow. "All matter is crystalic in nature" -- W.Russell.

Again, Good work. I don't mean to derail anything here, your builds look promising and I can see something quirky about them.

==Romo

[boguslaw]

Slovenia, do you know why Pi (3.14) is being used as that calculating number? I don't, but I know that Walter Russell's diagrams and charts were found to use that number as well, somehow. I think one of the diagrams was "Law of crystallization" that used it.

That just stuck out to me -- very interesting. It says to me that the boiling phase shift could be related to crystals somehow. "All matter is crystalic in nature" -- W.Russell.

Again, Good work. I don't mean to derail anything here, your builds look promising and I can see something quirky about them.

==Romo

I thought Pi was used to compute circumference of ring ??? it is Pi* 2*radius of circle which is Pi*diameter because diameter=2*radius

I don't know if that is the information you requested , if not then please elaborate.

[MonsieurM]

Slovenia, do you know why Pi (3.14) is being used as that calculating number? I don't, but I know that Walter Russell's diagrams and charts were found to use that number as well, somehow. I think one of the diagrams was "Law of crystallization" that used it.

That just stuck out to me -- very interesting. It says to me that the boiling phase shift could be related to crystals somehow. "All matter is crystalic in nature" -- W.Russell.

Again, Good work. I don't mean to derail anything here, your builds look promising and I can see something quirky about them.

==Romo

Pi, Phi and Fibonacci numbers



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On Friday, Emory mathematician Ken Ono will unveil new theories that answer these famous old questions.

Ono and his research team have discovered that partition numbers behave like fractals. They have unlocked the divisibility properties of partitions, and developed a mathematical theory for "seeing" their infinitely repeating superstructure. And they have devised the first finite formula to calculate the partitions of any number.

Partition (number theory), a way to write a number as a sum of other numbers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_(number_theory) )

[Slovenia]

Real IKEA Boiler In USE

This setup has some limitations but still works pretty well. It is 1000 W input and 5000 W output. We should aim for the current setup of Mr. "C". There are still some bugs to work out of the IKEA system.

Here's a pic of a real IKEA Boiler in use!!

[RAMSET]

Looks a little advanced

S
Somebody has been very busy!!
I like it!! Can you get the specs from your contact??
I see the long pipe ,I don't see a drive ring?

Seems like its hooked up like i giant resistor??
OH Boy maybe I'll have a nice warm House after all??

Thanks for posting this
Chet

[RAMSET]

Unbelievably simple

I love it S..........

More info please!!

Thanks
Chet

[Slovenia]

More Info

We shall see what we can get.

I love it S..........

More info please!!

Thanks
Chet

[Slovenia]

IKEA Stainless Steel Vacuum Flask (Cutting Bottom Out)

IKEA Stainless Steel Vacuum Flask

Taped End To Indicate Cut Line For Bottom of Flask


Uncut Bottom of Flask


Outside Bottom of Flask Removed Showing Inner Bottom of Inside Flask

[Slovenia]

IKEA Stainless Flask (Good Selection)

IKEA Stainless Flask (Good Selection)

The walls of the tubes in this flask are very thin making this a very good selection for a boiler. It won't require that much sanding on it. It also has a nice little ring to it.

The material is very easy to cut with a dremel tool with cut-off wheels. They work great on this flask. Just turn the flask with one hand as you hold the tool against the flask with the other hand.

[Slovenia]

IKEA Flask Cutting Update

IKEA Flask Cutting Update

Well, it's not as easy as first I thought. The bottom of the flask came right off, and so I thought how easy is this? Well, not so easy. I had to expose the inside flask, and so that's why I took the bottom off the outside flask. The configuration at the bottom of the inside tank is different. The steel seems harder and there are welds there too. It became apparent to me that I had cut in the wrong place. I took a dowel rod and stuck it down the center of the flask to get a depth measurement and then compared that measurement to the outside of the flask. If you have one of these IKEA flasks, you will note that there is a line up approximately 7/8" from the bottom of the flask. You will want to cut a line completely around the flask up approximately 3/8" from the visible line up from the bottom of the flask. This should get you in perfectly to the inside tank where you want to make your cut and also get you away from any welded areas which are harder metal to cut through. I'll be cutting at this juncture first thing in the morning.

[Guest]

AC Resonance Water Heater

Hi all - What an interesting technology this is!

Question 1
In theory, couldn't the frequency of the AC electricity be tuned to match
different sizes of tube & ring arrangments?

Question Two
With 50 or 60Hz going into the reaction chamber being the resonant frequency
of a very specific distance and arrangement of the tube and ring, this spells
a very small window of parameters for getting it to work correctly. What if
position adjustment was built on to the ring or the tube or both? It seems as
though this would allow dialing in of the correct spacing proportions to match
the frequency of the electricity.

Threaded guide bolts or a waterproof sliding mechanism could possibly allow
this adjustment.

Tuning the sinewave frequency would require generation of a custom signal by
some means. The frequency drive controller with a power transistor circuit
may work, or a certain Radio-shk 741 opamp sinewave generator circuit by
Forrest Mims. Similar to his are a number of other sinewave oscillators at
this [ website ]

[Slovenia]

More Info

Hi Chet,

The IKEA boiler is incorporated somewhere in that system but might not be shown in the picture. As for information, my contact says that their system is not as efficient as they initially thought and don't want to give a lot of information out with regard to what they are doing because then they would be responsible for a whole lot of inefficient builds possibly. Anyway, until they get all the kinks worked out of their system they don't want to share to many details. He says at this stage that folks should stay with the Mr. "C" device instead.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

I love it S..........

More info please!!

Thanks
Chet

[RAMSET]

""stay with the Mr. "C" device instead.""

Slovenia
That is what I will Do!!
Thanks
Chet
PS
Geotron
Good ideas !!

[Slovenia]

IKEA Stainless Steel Vacuum Flask (Experiment)

Disregard!!
I misunderstood my IKEA contact.

I've been brain storming on this particular IKEA flask adaptation of the Serbian boiler system, and I've come to the conclusion that several things probably have to be done to it to make it more efficient.

1) It needs to be made into one tube system instead of two. I don't see an advantage to having the double tube of the same polarity.

2) I'm pretty sure that the bottom needs to be capped. I think this is really significant.

3) I feel it needs to be tuned to either 50 hz or 60 hz depending on whether you are in US or Europe.

4) I think the ring needs to be made out of .2mm material to the specs given my Mr. "C".

5) I think the ring gap needs to be set at 2.1mm for Europe and 2.52mm for USA.

I think the device will become much more efficient if these areas are corrected. I woke up in the night with this bugging me very much. So, I think it's significant information I'm sharing here.

Happy Experimenting.

I'll be experimenting with an IKEA boiler but I'll also be making these changes.