Muller generator replication by Romerouk

[thaelin]

hey guys, can a N channel mosfet switch + ?

I seriously think you will get into probs there. The gate is in reference to ground. You would then have to put the coil between the source and ground and the drain to positive , not a good idea. But then I have never done it either. Interesting idea for sure.

thay

[i_ron]

hey guys, can a N channel mosfet switch + ?

Ka J,

Yes it can, this is the basic N channel H bridge

As was pointed out the gate is referenced to the source so one uses a
"high side" driver like an IR2117

Ron

[kajunkreations]

Ive read that you can, but the gate voltage has to go higher than the source voltage. I am not going that direction, I ordered 10 p channel mosfets today. They are twice as expensive as an N channel with similar specs. Why is that?

Thanks for the responses!
Nolan

[kEhYo77]

New Setup

My device is taking shape...
KMG TEST RUN VIDEO

[kajunkreations]

real muller replication

Hey guys, I have started a real muller replication.I am following mullers design as close as possible with the current info that is available, although half of it is probably misinformation. I have all of the cores made including the one for the RLC. They are made from Black Sand from Oregon black beaches, not from the pure Fe304 that I used previously. They work way better than my first attempts. There are 2 coil sets mounted and tested for output. At 2500 rpm its 13.5 v open and 24 amps shorted. Lenz law is still there, so its not the core material that defeats lenz. ( I didnt think it was). So with that I still have a few more coils to build but I'm still going. here is a pic of the coils and cores.

[Dave45]

Since your just starting your build, you might as well make it go ou, right

Use iron and utilize Ed leedskalnins pmh, create a electric field on both sides of your rotor.

[qvision]

Test of bifilar-wound, serially connected coil.

Just a small update.

Yesterday i tested a bifilar-wound, serially connected coil, the same 0.25mm coil i previously had as straight-wound, the performance increases in terms of a rise in frequency and a drop in current draw are on the order of four times better than a straight-wound coil.

Here's a short clip of the new coil in action. I plan to get a cheap HD camera soon, apologies for fuzziness and mesy desk ;+}

The Heins Effect - Bifilar-wound, series-connected coil. - YouTube


Best to all,

DC.

[qvision]

My laminations arrived today.

The performance was not as good as my loose anchor bolts !

Results in spreadsheet here :

Core tests.xls

If you don't have excel installed then get the viewer here :

Download Details - Microsoft Download Center - Excel Viewer


Best to all,

DC.

[Dave45]

Lets look at Ed's pmh

As long as the magnetic field has a closed path the electric field orbits the coil, but when the magnetic path is cut then the electric field callapses into the coil as in the vid Leedskalnin Perpetual Motion Holder Demonstrated With One Coil - YouTube

[Dave45]

Notice the electric field on both sides of the rotor

Lenz Law & Eddy Currents_2 coil shorting - YouTube
Rods vid shows this effect if the coils were connected as in Eds pmh you would have a continuous electric field on both sides of the rotor
In the vid it is the electric field that raises the aluminum ring, the magnetic field has no effect on aluminum
What people are calling eddy currents is the electric field, use it

[Dave45]

In this vid he's supercharging the electric field and you can see it coupling with the magnetic field.
MAGNETIC VORTEX SPIN DISCOVERY, Sept 2011(Uploading due to his Channel being taken off) - YouTube

[MonsieurM]

In this vid he's supercharging the electric field and you can see it coupling with the magnetic field.
MAGNETIC VORTEX SPIN DISCOVERY, Sept 2011(Uploading due to his Channel being taken off) - YouTube

awesome vid Dave a second video of his

MAGNETIC VORTEX SPIN built by Magnetflipper Sept 2011 (Uploading due to his Channel being taken off) - YouTube

[qvision]

Test results, 500g of 0.25mm, bifilar-wound, series-connected, laminated-core coil.

This coil/core combination overspeeds the rotor when shorted.


Rotor with no coil/core present.

Hz : 450
mA : 443

Rotor with coil/core present, open-circuit.

Hz : 450
mA : 438

Rotor with coil/core persent, short-circuit.

Hz : 455
mA 433

Video here :

Exploring the Heins Effect, a coil/core combination that overspeeds the rotor. - YouTube


Thanks for reading,

QV.

[kEhYo77]

This is interesting.

Electromagnetic Motor

Patent 524 426

This should show some lag acceleration effects.



From the patent.



(...)

P.S. I did notice a post on another forum by DeepCut who mentioned an
elongated core which reminded me of the patent so I posted it.

to Deepcut.

I just did 2 test runs. At first I couldn't replicate the speed up from my previous setup at 950Hz. I started thinking what changes did I make. And it became clear. The core length in front of the coil has shortened! I readjusted my coils a little to the back and Bingo! The effect came back, starting from around 800 Hz. So the Lenz delay has got much to do with that sticking out piece of the core for the most part, I think. At least in my case.

[ZeropointEnergy]

Work of the Master

This is interesting.

Electromagnetic Motor

Patent 524 426

This should show some lag acceleration effects.



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From the patent.



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If some generator coils were arranged similar to this it could produce some interesting effects.

I think if the two close coils were used for powering a load and the other two
coils shorted maybe with caps. And the frequency was correct for the setup
the shorted coils might cancel some of the drag from the real generator coils
powering a real load.

Depending on how it was arranged it could be done at fairly low rpm/magnet
speed. Maybe it's worth a try. I can't say as I haven't tried it of course, but some have setups that could.

Using a permanent magnet rotor should work.



P.S. I did notice a post on another forum by DeepCut who mentioned an
elongated core which reminded me of the patent so I posted it.

to Deepcut.

Hey Farmhand,

Thanks to this post I took another look at the Tesla books I have obtained
with a fresh understanding (was 3-4 yrs ago I read them) of the concepts
and does not baffle me us much now.
I'm trying to work out a simple way to test the relationship of the phase
change in the elongated cores, in the mean time refreshing my knowledge
of the "man out of time".

Regards
Zero