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  • Lenz Law

    Today's results.

    I hope the photos tell it all. Its way to complicated to do a quick write up and
    I am in new territory I don't really understand why this works.
    I will create a PDF and do a you tube Video.






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    • Rod, I have no idea what you are showing here. Unless those figures in red are loaded coil readings and they are showing drawing a load with no change in RPM. do these figures also show a change in distance to the rotor/coil?

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      • Originally posted by redrichie View Post
        Rod, I have no idea what you are showing here. Unless those figures in red are loaded coil readings and they are showing drawing a load with no change in RPM. do these figures also show a change in distance to the rotor/coil?
        what you see is what you get. the photo show every thing.
        I have a working Lenz violation generator.

        I have just ordered a few DC to DC
        converters.


        Unless those figures in red are loaded coil readings YES
        Last edited by toranarod; 07-27-2011, 12:38 PM.

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        • looks like you have a changing field sans coupling, cool.

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          • Originally posted by toranarod View Post
            what you see is what you get. the photo show every thing.
            I have a working Lenz violation generator.

            I have just ordered a few DC to DC
            converters.


            Unless those figures in red are loaded coil readings YES
            You said the RPM did not change when the current draw was zero but did it change when the coil was not near the rotor?

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            • Originally posted by Zooty View Post
              You said the RPM did not change when the current draw was zero but did it change when the coil was not near the rotor?
              Good question? Here is the thing, it will not do the RPM i have listed above
              unless the generator coil is in place. the kicker is?
              you cannot bring the motor up that speed while it is there.
              its like a jet fighter going through the sound barrier. there is this wall that gets crossed over. Then it all changes.

              this is the most exciting thing i have ever had no my bench.

              I need to calculate the velocity of the magnets as they go passed the coil then see if it can be scaled up. Question
              if I increase the size of the magnets by X 3 will it mean the speed needs the same increase?

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              • Romero was right. very right
                All he was saying about what you should do. At the time it did not make sense. but it does now.

                Remember how he would say don't worry about the drive coils use an external dc motor if you need to. Focus on the generator coil.
                this is what I need to do. I will couple my rotor to a hi speed dc motor
                that has full speed control. I have a few out runner motors around the house.

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                • Originally posted by toranarod View Post
                  Romero was right. very right
                  All he was saying about what you should do. At the time it did not make sense. but it does now.

                  Remember how he would say don't worry about the drive coils use an external dc motor if you need to. Focus on the generator coil.
                  this is what I need to do. I will couple my rotor to a hi speed dc motor
                  that has full speed control. I have a few out runner motors around the house.
                  I am quite thrilled for you rod, you followed your instinct and it pays off ;

                  Would it be too much trouble if you could collect some data, and post it, it could be invaluable for other applications....Congrats again
                  Signs and symbols -Confucius.

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                  • Hi toranarod,
                    Originally posted by toranarod View Post
                    Good question? ...Question if I increase the size of the magnets by X 3 will it mean the speed needs the same increase? ...
                    I don't know, but
                    if you increase the diameter of the disc/wheel and it turns at the same RPM as before, then you will automatically obtain a higher passing-speed between the magnets and the coils.

                    Or in other words: if you use a larger disc, you don't have to go to such high RPMs to get the effect.

                    That is to say: at lower RPMs you will obtain the same velocity of the magnets going past the coils as you have now.
                    But what I really wanted to say is this:
                    Originally posted by toranarod View Post
                    .... a jet fighter going through the sound barrier. there is this wall that gets crossed over. Then it all changes. ...
                    If you can document this in a youtube video I guess a lot of people would appreciate it.
                    I would appreciate it.
                    Last edited by marxist; 07-28-2011, 04:56 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by marxist View Post
                      Hi toranarod,


                      I don't know, but
                      if you increase the diameter of the disc/wheel and it turns at the same RPM as before, then you will automatically obtain a higher passing-speed between the magnets and the coils.

                      Or in other words: if you use a larger disc, you don't have to go to such high RPMs to get the effect.

                      That is to say: at lower RPMs you will obtain the same velocity of the magnets going past the coils as you have now.
                      But what I really wanted to say is this:
                      If you can document this in a youtube video I guess a lot of people would appreciate it.
                      I would appreciate it.
                      I will plan a video over the weekend. you would not believe the screaming noise this thing makes and hour or so with it makes me feel sick.
                      you will hear this in the video so i wont say much.
                      Just finished a new coil today and will post results later.
                      cheers

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                      • Hi Rod

                        congratulation for your pugnacity .

                        And bravo for this great idea.

                        will try something like this ASAP.

                        Can you indicate on your pix the polarity of the side magnets versus the rotor magnet, and rotation direction of the rotor as it would help the replication

                        Thank's for sharing

                        And good luck at all

                        Laurent

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                            • rod, think of the following image as one neo magnet, now time that by your two

                              Electrons - Spherical standing wave


                              I can see your typing is filled with excitement, wish you best of luck
                              Signs and symbols -Confucius.

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                              • Hi Rod,

                                Would you like me to have a go at replicating ?

                                I have those inductors on hand.

                                For mags, I have a variety available.

                                I do have an Arduino, but have not built the electronics or switching yet.

                                Also avail is a PWM for dc motors that I can use to drive the rotor.

                                Let me know. I have just about given up on Romero.

                                Regards, Penno

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