Muller generator replication by Romerouk

[toranarod]

Lenz Law

Today's results.

I hope the photos tell it all. Its way to complicated to do a quick write up and
I am in new territory I don't really understand why this works.
I will create a PDF and do a you tube Video.

[redrichie]

Rod, I have no idea what you are showing here. Unless those figures in red are loaded coil readings and they are showing drawing a load with no change in RPM. do these figures also show a change in distance to the rotor/coil?

[toranarod]

Rod, I have no idea what you are showing here. Unless those figures in red are loaded coil readings and they are showing drawing a load with no change in RPM. do these figures also show a change in distance to the rotor/coil?

what you see is what you get. the photo show every thing.
I have a working Lenz violation generator.

I have just ordered a few DC to DC
converters.


Unless those figures in red are loaded coil readings YES

[phoneboy]

looks like you have a changing field sans coupling, cool.

[Zooty]

what you see is what you get. the photo show every thing.
I have a working Lenz violation generator.

I have just ordered a few DC to DC
converters.


Unless those figures in red are loaded coil readings YES

You said the RPM did not change when the current draw was zero but did it change when the coil was not near the rotor?

[toranarod]

You said the RPM did not change when the current draw was zero but did it change when the coil was not near the rotor?

Good question? Here is the thing, it will not do the RPM i have listed above
unless the generator coil is in place. the kicker is?
you cannot bring the motor up that speed while it is there.
its like a jet fighter going through the sound barrier. there is this wall that gets crossed over. Then it all changes.

this is the most exciting thing i have ever had no my bench.

I need to calculate the velocity of the magnets as they go passed the coil then see if it can be scaled up. Question
if I increase the size of the magnets by X 3 will it mean the speed needs the same increase?

[toranarod]

Romero was right. very right
All he was saying about what you should do. At the time it did not make sense. but it does now.

Remember how he would say don't worry about the drive coils use an external dc motor if you need to. Focus on the generator coil.
this is what I need to do. I will couple my rotor to a hi speed dc motor
that has full speed control. I have a few out runner motors around the house.

[MonsieurM]

Romero was right. very right
All he was saying about what you should do. At the time it did not make sense. but it does now.

Remember how he would say don't worry about the drive coils use an external dc motor if you need to. Focus on the generator coil.
this is what I need to do. I will couple my rotor to a hi speed dc motor
that has full speed control. I have a few out runner motors around the house.

I am quite thrilled for you rod, you followed your instinct and it pays off ;

Would it be too much trouble if you could collect some data, and post it, it could be invaluable for other applications....Congrats again

[marxist]

Hi toranarod,

Good question? ...Question if I increase the size of the magnets by X 3 will it mean the speed needs the same increase? ...

I don't know, but
if you increase the diameter of the disc/wheel and it turns at the same RPM as before, then you will automatically obtain a higher passing-speed between the magnets and the coils.

Or in other words: if you use a larger disc, you don't have to go to such high RPMs to get the effect.

That is to say: at lower RPMs you will obtain the same velocity of the magnets going past the coils as you have now.
But what I really wanted to say is this:

.... a jet fighter going through the sound barrier. there is this wall that gets crossed over. Then it all changes. ...

If you can document this in a youtube video I guess a lot of people would appreciate it.
I would appreciate it.

[toranarod]

Hi toranarod,


I don't know, but
if you increase the diameter of the disc/wheel and it turns at the same RPM as before, then you will automatically obtain a higher passing-speed between the magnets and the coils.

Or in other words: if you use a larger disc, you don't have to go to such high RPMs to get the effect.

That is to say: at lower RPMs you will obtain the same velocity of the magnets going past the coils as you have now.
But what I really wanted to say is this:
If you can document this in a youtube video I guess a lot of people would appreciate it.
I would appreciate it.

I will plan a video over the weekend. you would not believe the screaming noise this thing makes and hour or so with it makes me feel sick.
you will hear this in the video so i wont say much.
Just finished a new coil today and will post results later.
cheers

[woopy]

Hi Rod

congratulation for your pugnacity .

And bravo for this great idea.

will try something like this ASAP.

Can you indicate on your pix the polarity of the side magnets versus the rotor magnet, and rotation direction of the rotor as it would help the replication

Thank's for sharing

And good luck at all

Laurent

[penno64]

Dearest Woopy,

How nice to hear from you.

I really enjoyed your work on the Newman. Quite informative.

It appears Rod has a winner, Yes.

He has not stated clearly the poles but from his post above -

In the photo below you can see 2 neo magnets, either side of the iron core, facing the stator. According to Lens’ Law the magnetic field induced by the magnet as it approaches the iron core will create a magnetic field in the core that will oppose the magnet on the rotor. Now, if the magnets that are attached to either side of the iron core reflect the same magnetic field as the Lens’ Law field, the Lens’ Law field becomes camouflaged….just as one might say, “hiding a tree in a forest”.


Kindest Regards and Keep Well, Penno.

p.s. I love you flying.

[toranarod]

I am feeling very nervous about see my motor replicated. I really want the idea authenticated.
I know it works so I am hoping it can be re created.
I am worried It will not be replicated successfully I keep on testing it every day.
I wake up in the morning thinking it will not work today I was imagining it.
When you have been working on the O U concepts and devices as long as I have you see many ideas go down the drain.
It’s like this cannot be happening.

[MonsieurM]

rod, think of the following image as one neo magnet, now time that by your two

Electrons - Spherical standing wave


I can see your typing is filled with excitement, wish you best of luck

[penno64]

Hi Rod,

Would you like me to have a go at replicating ?

I have those inductors on hand.

For mags, I have a variety available.

I do have an Arduino, but have not built the electronics or switching yet.

Also avail is a PWM for dc motors that I can use to drive the rotor.

Let me know. I have just about given up on Romero.

Regards, Penno