super charger "bingo"

[sucahyo]

i do not understand how we could claim COP = 1 if we measure it as 60 %...

Me previous battery swapping video show that during 1 minutes of testing, the battery voltage starting voltage do not drop even after discharged and charged. But it do not increase too. That can only happen if we have COP=1, well maybe 99.99%.

We measure it as 60% with amp meter. But it seems that do not show what actually being absorbed by the battery. It seems that battery receive more than just 60% of current.

Meter and battery behave differently.

clue about using what kind of battery swapper to make this test tomorrow ?

This is the one I use before, but with updated circuit:


I am using relay with 4 contact point. This can also be made with two DPDT or four SPDT.

Or i just misunderstood something again ?

What I mean is we have to aim to get COP>1 for separate input and output first.

Even Bedini do not aim for self charging system, he prefer to use separate input and output battery. Mentioning charging a discharging battery is bad for the battery or something.

I forget where I read it, self charging reduce efficiency. So, if we want COP>1 self charging system, we have to have a system with more COP than just COP>1.

Watki system COP supposed to be more than 4. If I remember correctly, self charging COP is 2.5, almost half the actual. If you want to get COP>1 self charging system, get COP>2 system first.

I think we should do it step by step. We have to be able to get at least COP>1 with separate input and output. When we succeed this step, then we improve it to make it self charging.

I am serious. I think COP>1 self charging as twice harder to achieve than COP>1 of separate input and output.

[cikljamas]

I am using relay with 4 contact point. This can also be made with two DPDT or four SPDT.
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Hi Sucahyo, i just tested bingo with plastic canister of water, but nothing
happens !

My ksc 5027 arrived, i go tomorrow to pick them up, could you tell me
since i do not have and i can not buy tip 32 should i combine ksc 5027
with tip 42 or with tip 2955 ?

And about those relays, i never use them in electronic circuits, could you
tell me how they work, and what to ask in store in order to chose right
thing, i mean i know the principle of working of auto relays, is it something
similar or it is different ?

Maybe for the beginning better to just use dpdt or spdt, but anyway i
would like to know advantages of relay principle, suppose it is automatic
way of working ?

Rgds !

[sucahyo]

Hi Sucahyo, i just tested bingo with plastic canister of water, but nothing happens !

You will notice it clearly if you use high impedance load like a neon bulb. You should hear the freq raise too at least.

With neon bulb as load, the output voltage raise if I touch wire connected to 1.5L of water:
YouTube - Bingo and stingo non grounded water test

My ksc 5027 arrived, i go tomorrow to pick them up, could you tell me since i do not have and i can not buy tip 32 should i combine ksc 5027 with tip 42 or with tip 2955 ?

With TIP42.

And about those relays, i never use them in electronic circuits, could you tell me how they work, and what to ask in store in order to chose right thing, i mean i know the principle of working of auto relays, is it something similar or it is different ?

Mine is a gift from Ben, a FRM3-4B5, But I think you can use any cheapest relay you can find.

Relay need to be driven with 555 circuit or other timer. We can make it self oscillate but it would be too fast for our swapping. You can use 555 based radiant circuit and replace the coil with relay and reduce the timing speed.

Maybe for the beginning better to just use dpdt or spdt, but anyway i would like to know advantages of relay principle, suppose it is automatic way of working ?

As a controlled switch, relay allow current flow to both direction unlike optocoupler, also better complete ON and complete OFF.

Problem is sparking and slow. But for this kind battery swapping, that is not a problem.

For me relay is easier.