This is it !

[gmeast]

primaries

Hi Greg, Don't stress about the secondary turns. I don't think a few turns on the secondary will make any difference I honestly don't. If each primary has 38 turns that would still be only 114 turns of primaries and the primaries are thicker. .....................................
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Hi Farmhand,

Actually, in a normal setup for a transformer the primaries WOULD be thicker, but in the case of this 3 phase thingy, the primaries are the 20ga wire .... they are thinner ... and it points that out in the guide.

I thought as you did originally, but the primaries are thinner. I wonder how many Boyce Toroid winders did it backwards ... huh?

Later

[Farmhand]

Hahaha, well there you go, thats how easy I get mixed up, hahahah.

Umm so which has more mass primaries or secondaries, because you may have made it better for resonance, anyway way won't mine turn out to be the same ?

Either way I don't think those few winds will matter that much. If at all. No way I would have actually got them wrong way round, well not for long anyway someone would tell me, I hope.

I was just thinking of putting one bias winding around the outer face, but it occured to me if i do that the space's between the windings will be bigger around the outside because the outer diameter will be larger, it's interesting because Bob wound one with Bias windings on all faces, surely he would have only been able to get less winds on that !

There's some comfort for ya.

[gmeast]

bias windings

Hahaha, well there you go, thats how easy I get mixed up, hahahah.

Umm so which has more mass primaries or secondaries, because you may have made it better for resonance, anyway way won't mine turn out to be the same ?

Either way I don't think those few winds will matter that much. If at all. No way I would have actually got them wrong way round, well not for long anyway someone would tell me, I hope.

I was just thinking of putting one bias winding around the outer face, but it occured to me if i do that the space's between the windings will be bigger around the outside because the outer diameter will be larger, it's interesting because Bob wound one with Bias windings on all faces, surely he would have only been able to get less winds on that !

There's some comfort for ya.

Weren't the bias windings part of his TPU work? I'm too lazy to look it up for sure ... anyone?

Later

[sucahyo]

Floods ravage Queensland

cikljamas here's that video.
Don Smith Free Energy - Video

I hope flood pass soon without anymore problem.

Is there any clue on Don Smith video? I can't understand it.

[sucahyo]

Weren't the bias windings part of his TPU work? I'm too lazy to look it up for sure ... anyone?

A must only on non electrolysis application, he said.

[gmeast]

Smith

I hope flood pass soon without anymore problem.

Is there any clue on Don Smith video? I can't understand it.

I have reviewed the video several times.. He seems to be a modern-day version of Tesla. Also he refers to Tesla often and has commented in other interviews about the things Tesla could have offered the world if he had the modern electronics we now have.

The video just presents the many devices that he has built and demonstrated a the various conferences, all of which operate on "background energy", "zero point energy", "aether" ... whatever you want to call it.

The video doesn't really show (or try to show) how to make anything that operates in a COP>1 mode ... just like the rest of the videos about 'free energy" don't.

That's my impression of the video.

Later

[Farmhand]

I have reviewed the video several times.. He seems to be a modern-day version of Tesla. Also he refers to Tesla often and has commented in other interviews about the things Tesla could have offered the world if he had the modern electronics we now have.

The video just presents the many devices that he has built and demonstrated a the various conferences, all of which operate on "background energy", "zero point energy", "aether" ... whatever you want to call it.

The video doesn't really show (or try to show) how to make anything that operates in a COP>1 mode ... just like the rest of the videos about 'free energy" don't.

That's my impression of the video.

Later

That's a very good assessment of the video Greg, I just thought I would link it here incase you guys hadn't seen that little demonstration in that vid. Did you notice how many traces they had on the scope and what they represented ?

You're right about the bias windings being for the TPU and not this hydroxy setup, but I thought it noteworthy that by doing that he would have been restricted as to the number of winds he could get, the way I read it he was only experimenting with that. But he had every intention of whirling that one so it must be ok.

I do understand the importance of replications but it looked to me as if watkykjy's Toroid had thinner gauge wire wound on it, call me crazy but it don't look like the size specified 16 AWG 20 AWG it looks thinner than that.

Did you catch this post Greg, are these CMOS logic gate chips as fast as op-amps ?

http://www.energeticforum.com/125496-post718.html

How much tape did they send you ? I think I remember you saying they rewrapped the tape onto something else or something.

To all, Thank you all for the well wishes, I am safe and well, I have 40000 litre's of rain water ample food and power. Solar power, batteries and inverters will have to do if the power is cut here. I wish I had even a very small wind generator, I will have to make one or buy one to power my "dynamo electric machine". When I build it, or part thereof.

Anyone else realise we can spin a "columbus egg" on our Toroidal transformer.
Like in this photo.

http://9xebdw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pFQVapP0wEcRqMqFEYmLHik57-F9Hvo24tuq7xM7zKeWIh5hkZEniifUizdnvq8mrXjB7sDGWlKCms3oxkkYWI-tWGcwkPqK_/WorldsFairTeslaPresentation.png?psid=1

The round thing on the table is a polyphase trnsformer, and there is a smaller one next to it. It looks like the centre of attention to me.

From PESWIKI

Also among the exhibits was Tesla's demonstration, most notably the "Egg of Columbus". This device explains the principles of the rotating magnetic field and his induction motor. The Egg of Columbus consisted of a polyphase field coil underneath a plate with a copper egg positioned over the top. When the sequence of coils were energized, the magnetic field arrangement inductively created a rotation on the egg and made it stand up on end (appearing to resist gravity).

Remember the egg is copper which is not magnetic last time i checked.

We can aslo make a motor with it. I think.


Cheers all

[gmeast]

Flywheel

Hi all,

This is another capture of a single pulse to the secondary wrapped on a 650-52 toroidal core. I have NOT seen this before except right here. The capture is at 21KHz, 2.28usec pulse duration, 200nsec fall, 350nsec rise. Time domain is 0.5usec / division. All components are stone cold.

I call this capture "Flywheel" for a very obvious reason. After the pulse has been initiated, 'momentum' of the energy jammed into the coil continues on past the 'bottom' of the battery by a good 3V to 4V. Now look at the 'top' of the battery (green trace). This is an almost perfect reflection of the blast-through at the bottom of the battery, but slightly amplified. I believe that this disturbance at the top of the battery is a reflection or is the manifestation of longitudinal waves. This is what I think Don Smith would regard as background energy as a reflection of conventional energy. When stretched out a little more, the areas of the pulses 'above' the top of the battery add up to being greater then the single (first) pulse 'below' the top of the battery.

Here is the capture:

http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/radiant/charging/flywheel_650-52_540Z.JPG

I have never seen such a symmetric disturbance like this on a battery. I have received my digital components for the next generation of PWM, but before I do anything else, I am going to 'relieve' my Op-Amp PWM of unwanted power drain by getting rid of the resistor voltage dividers, 5K and 10k pots as voltage references and use 250k pots and low power Op-Amp buffers or band gap devices as the new voltage references. This will cut my circuit overhead down to 1/3rd of what it is now ... can't wait !

Enjoy the picture. Later

[gmeast]

cmos gates, tape, etc.

That's a very good assessment of the video Greg, I just thought I would link it here incase you guys hadn't seen that little demonstration in that vid. Did you notice how many traces they had on the scope and what they represented ?

You're right about the bias windings being for the TPU and not this hydroxy setup, but I thought it noteworthy that by doing that he would have been restricted as to the number of winds he could get, the way I read it he was only experimenting with that. But he had every intention of whirling that one so it must be ok.

I do understand the importance of replications but it looked to me as if watkykjy's Toroid had thinner gauge wire wound on it, call me crazy but it don't look like the size specified 16 AWG 20 AWG it looks thinner than that.

Did you catch this post Greg, are these CMOS logic gate chips as fast as op-amps ?

http://www.energeticforum.com/125496-post718.html

How much tape did they send you ? I think I remember you saying they rewrapped the tape onto something else or something.

To all, Thank you all for the well wishes, I am safe and well, I have 40000 litre's of rain water ample food and power. Solar power, batteries and inverters will have to do if the power is cut here. I wish I had even a very small wind generator, I will have to make one or buy one to power my "dynamo electric machine". When I build it, or part thereof.

Anyone else realise we can spin a "columbus egg" on our Toroidal transformer.
Like in this photo.

http://9xebdw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pFQVapP0wEcRqMqFEYmLHik57-F9Hvo24tuq7xM7zKeWIh5hkZEniifUizdnvq8mrXjB7sDGWlKCms3oxkkYWI-tWGcwkPqK_/WorldsFairTeslaPresentation.png?psid=1

The round thing on the table is a polyphase trnsformer, and there is a smaller one next to it. It looks like the centre of attention to me.

From PESWIKI


Remember the egg is copper which is not magnetic last time i checked.

We can aslo make a motor with it. I think.


Cheers all

Hi Farmhand,

Glad you're fine and safe ... sounds like you were prepared.

CMOS gates are faster than almost everything. I would be interested in a PWM that's full featured using them. It is a digital PWM, I'm just taking a different route ... much like a micro would do it... just no micro.

The roll of 1" yellow 1P802 Yellow is 54 yards. I'll have to re-wrap some on a smaller spool to fit through doughnut hole. I did receive the sample request confirmation and authorization ... don't know when it will arrive though.

Later

[gmeast]

egg

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From PESWIKI
Quote:
Also among the exhibits was Tesla's demonstration, most notably the "Egg of Columbus". This device explains the principles of the rotating magnetic field and his induction motor. The Egg of Columbus consisted of a polyphase field coil underneath a plate with a copper egg positioned over the top. When the sequence of coils were energized, the magnetic field arrangement inductively created a rotation on the egg and made it stand up on end (appearing to resist gravity).
Remember the egg is copper which is not magnetic last time i checked.
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Cheers all

When they separate aluminum cans, copper , brass, bronze, some stainless from trash or other debris, they use an AC electromagnet under the conveyor everything is traveling on. When a 'non-ferrous' material passes over the AC electromagnet, the metal jumps up off of the conveyor and into a chute overhead where it resumes its trip to a recycler. Its the fact that it conducts electricity but is shorted out in all directions (generates eddy currents) but that still generates a counter EMF with an opposing polarity (same polarity) to the inducing field ... causing repulsion ... causing it to be repelled by the AC electromagnet. With the right settings you can discriminate between, oh say, aluminum cans and brass or copper flashing.

So, I don't know if I'd be too impressed by that trick ... but it's certainly fascinating.


Later

[Farmhand]

Love it !

Hi all,

This is another capture of a single pulse to the secondary wrapped on a 650-52 toroidal core. I have NOT seen this before except right here. The capture is at 21KHz, 2.28usec pulse duration, 200nsec fall, 350nsec rise. Time domain is 0.5usec / division. All components are stone cold.

I call this capture "Flywheel" for a very obvious reason. After the pulse has been initiated, 'momentum' of the energy jammed into the coil continues on past the 'bottom' of the battery by a good 3V to 4V. Now look at the 'top' of the battery (green trace). This is an almost perfect reflection of the blast-through at the bottom of the battery, but slightly amplified. I believe that this disturbance at the top of the battery is a reflection or is the manifestation of longitudinal waves. This is what I think Don Smith would regard as background energy as a reflection of conventional energy. When stretched out a little more, the areas of the pulses 'above' the top of the battery add up to being greater then the single (first) pulse 'below' the top of the battery.

Here is the capture:

http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/radiant/charging/flywheel_650-52_540Z.JPG

I have never seen such a symmetric disturbance like this on a battery. I have received my digital components for the next generation of PWM, but before I do anything else, I am going to 'relieve' my Op-Amp PWM of unwanted power drain by getting rid of the resistor voltage dividers, 5K and 10k pots as voltage references and use 250k pots and low power Op-Amp buffers or band gap devices as the new voltage references. This will cut my circuit overhead down to 1/3rd of what it is now ... can't wait !

Enjoy the picture. Later

Ouch, looks like the battery felt that. Looks like an uneven exchange. I don't know what to say I have never seen anything like that before either. Fascinating. Congrats. Looks like you did it.

This shot below is the closest thing I can find to "Flywheel", this is 60 000uf at 20 volts dumped by SCR. It's from my solar setup. of course it's not what you have, and I don't claim it's anything like that, I just thought it looked similar. The spike in my shot is the result of about 4 joules dumped to the battery which causes a significant current pulse in the order of Amperes, a few actually. The fact that it kind of looks similar, both in the magnitude of 20 volt's tell's me your "Flywheel" shot is significant.

http://9xhe3g.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pDlcgWokwzwiV7vQY6CwkonodJzfMQnN4hEPyAsnwWG0ZJkt-tnWIVDKcEF80Qja46z4RP4bS0DhOIJyNC9qUTPKj0pTLkXQO/Solar%20capacitive%20pulse.JPG?psid=1

As soon as you test the mods above can you post a drawing. Sounds good.

Like I said my op-amps likely got washed away but I will get some when I can. Now that i'm no longer ignorant of the pinout differences i will be successful.


Cheers

[sucahyo]

I am glad that you are fine Farmhand .

I have reviewed the video several times.. He seems to be a modern-day version of Tesla. Also he refers to Tesla often and has commented in other interviews about the things Tesla could have offered the world if he had the modern electronics we now have.

The video just presents the many devices that he has built and demonstrated a the various conferences, all of which operate on "background energy", "zero point energy", "aether" ... whatever you want to call it.

The video doesn't really show (or try to show) how to make anything that operates in a COP>1 mode ... just like the rest of the videos about 'free energy" don't.

That's my impression of the video.

Later

Thank you for that . It seems his writing give better explanation than video.

Here is the capture:

http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/radiant/charging/flywheel_650-52_540Z.JPG

I have never seen such a symmetric disturbance like this on a battery.

I never see that kind of pulse before, wow.

[Farmhand]

When they separate aluminum cans, copper , brass, bronze, some stainless from trash or other debris, they use an AC electromagnet under the conveyor everything is traveling on. When a 'non-ferrous' material passes over the AC electromagnet, the metal jumps up off of the conveyor and into a chute overhead where it resumes its trip to a recycler. Its the fact that it conducts electricity but is shorted out in all directions (generates eddy currents) but that still generates a counter EMF with an opposing polarity (same polarity) to the inducing field ... causing repulsion ... causing it to be repelled by the AC electromagnet. With the right settings you can discriminate between, oh say, aluminum cans and brass or copper flashing.

So, I don't know if I'd be too impressed by that trick ... but it's certainly fascinating.

Later

What would you call the method of propulsion the above method imparts on the non-ferrous metals to make them jump up ?

Fascinating for sure. I can't wait to try it.

[Farmhand]

Negative Resistance !

I've been staring at that "Flywheel" shot for nearly ten minuits now and as soon as I looked away, Boom ! Negative Resistance. It must be, the force imparted on battery because of the voltage flying past 0 volts has made a hole in the top of the battery for the energy to come in. Bam.

Maybe i'm nuts but I had to say it.

Good job Greg !

[gmeast]

eddy currents

What would you call the method of propulsion the above method imparts on the non-ferrous metals to make them jump up ?

Fascinating for sure. I can't wait to try it.

Try an experiment. Take a piece of aluminum bar, brass, copper ... any nonferrous ... if you can find it about three feet long ... it can be a piece of sheet metal at least 1/8 inch thick x 3" or 4" wide. Place it on an incline. Take a neodimium magnet (1" x 1" x 1" or 1/2 ") it has to have some size and weight. Place the magnet on the incline and let go so it slides down the incline. It will slide very slowly because as the magnet cuts through the infinite number of short circuits in the metal, it generates a current, and that results in a force against the motion of the magnet sliding down the piece of metal.

Same thing with the electromagnet, except that the field is changing because of the AC current of the electromagnet. The field is always changing and the nonferrous is generating a matching field in response, and opposites repel. Counter EMF

Take any coil you might have and plug it into AC. Place a piece of nonferrous metal near either pole and it repels ... only because the field is constantly changing.

Take a nice strong permanent magnet in your hand. place a scrap of aluminum sheet metal on a wooden table, place the magnet above the aluminum scrap (very close) and pull 'up' quickly. The scrap of aluminum will jump up after the magnet. Oscillate a strong permanent magnet near a ball of aluminum foil and see it try and follow the magnet. The movement of the magnet's field cutting through the ball of foil generates eddy currents in the foil and thus a Counter EMF and thus a force in opposition ... a braking force, and that force is greater than the gravitational force holding the foil ball or scrap of aluminum sheet on the table. If the magnet is under the table and you push the magnet 'upward' under the table, the foil or scrap of aluminum will jump UP in the air ... if you move the magnet fast enough and the tabletop is thin enough.

It's really quite unmiraculous. Its the same force that produces the torque that rotates the needle on mechanical automotive speedometers (the ones with the flexible cable from the transmission to the dashboard).

Later