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  • lamare
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    Originally posted by elias View Post
    Hi Lamare

    Your concept is interesting and worth to try, haven't you tried it yet?
    Also just to remind that KW is the unit of power and KV is the unit of electric potential.

    Elias
    Why should I?
    Gray, Meyer *and* Puharich did it all exactly the same, so I'm sure it works.

    I'm really not much of a tinkerer myself..

    And you are right about kW and kV, I know the difference. So, as I said, there are a number of rough edges here and there that need to be straightened out. I don't want to edit the thread, though, because this is sort of my sketchbook and I just like to keep that as is.

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  • elias
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    Originally posted by lamare View Post

    If Zx are all power coils with a self resonance frequency of say 5 kHz and the frequency of the pulses is, say 1 MHz, and the voltage of the pulse train is, say 1 V, that means you get 1 kV of real power at the positive terminals of Z1 and Z2 within 1 millisecond, without drawing any current from the "power" line, because it takes relatively a considerable amount of time before the pulses can travel trough the coil, so we get a sort of "step charging" effect inside the coils.
    Hi Lamare

    Your concept is interesting and worth to try, haven't you tried it yet?
    Also just to remind that KW is the unit of power and KV is the unit of electric potential.

    Elias

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  • Slovenia
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    Great Thread!!

    Great thread Lamare. You are always coming up with some great stuff. Keep up the good work.

    Best Regards,
    Slovenia



    Originally posted by lamare View Post
    Hi all,

    Yesterday, I re-analysed Gray's system:


    As you can see in the reduced schematic ( http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...ay_circuit.pdf ) he feeds HF, HV sharp spikes trough two capacitors to the coil to energize. Because of the shape of the spike (fast rising edge, slow falling edge), the capacitor basically functions as a diode, beside coupling the energy trough to the load circuits.

    Then I realized that you need to have two identical coils in series if you ever want to be able to induce a useable force in the coils, because otherwise the pulses will cancel each other out.

    So far, so good.

    Continueing in this line of thinking, the Avramenko plug used by Dr. Stiffler came to mind. If we add this all up, we finally get the ultimate secret to free (electric) energy:

    Split the positive AND the negative


    Given Bearden's "don't kill the dipole" as explained in my article (under construction) Article:Free Electric Energy in Theory and Practice - PESWiki it is clear that in terms of energy, you can manipulate the electric field for free. So, if you at some point in a circuit are able to pick up the electric field, without drawing current, you can do that for free.

    That means if you design your load such that it is completely balanced, you can do what Gray dit much more elegantly. As Stiffler shows in some of his experiments, the AV (Avramenko) plug is a perfect method of "splitting the positive and the negative" in Gray's terms. So, then you basically get to use both edges of the powering signal, albeit that you have do direct them to separate loads.

    Putting all this together, it is a matter of feeding a high frequency pulse train trough an AV plug, trough (small) couple capacitors to the oppozing terminals of 4 identical impedances, which can be coils, capacitors, basically anything, including WFC elements. See the attached schematic.

    What happens is that the positive edge gets fed trough the capacitors to the positive terminals of Z1 and Z2 in sync and the negative edge gets fed trough the capacitors to the negative terminals of Z3 and Z4 in sync. Hence splitting the positive AND the negative.

    If Zx are all power coils with a self resonance frequency of say 5 kHz and the frequency of the pulses is, say 1 MHz, and the voltage of the pulse train is, say 1 V, that means you get 1 kV of real power at the positive terminals of Z1 and Z2 within 1 millisecond, without drawing any current from the "power" line, because it takes relatively a considerable amount of time before the pulses can travel trough the coil, so we get a sort of "step charging" effect inside the coils.

    So, if you want to experiment with this: BE CAREFUL. This is an expansion of the basic principle Gray used and he did add his "safety spark gaps" for a reason. If you feed 10 MHz, 10 V pulses to 4 identical coils this way, you are looking at 100 kV worth of power within 1 miillesecond... In other words: this gives you an awesome amount of power!!!




    Update: I think the principle can also be used at much lower frequencies if you connect the negative terminals of Z1 and Z2 and the positive terminals of Z3 and Z4 all to signal ground. After all, the net current going trough there is zero, as is the net current coming from the signal wire (which is why this works). Then you should be able to get results with relatively low frequencies, like several kHz for coils or even 10s of Hz for charging capacitors or batteries. What is important is that all impedances are the same. Use identical components for all of them.


    Update 2: There's a couple of inconsistences in this post, but the basic principe is correct. Turns out that Z1 and Z2 cannot be capacitors. So, just read on, investigate the material, the links, etc. and you will not be disappointed.

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  • MrMagAmp
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    We're in the same way

    Well, It could be an excellent idea trying to make an article (like yours) in collaboration with more people. In overunity.com I said that I would make a mini ebook, with all the information I've collected in different articles.
    But the best solution it seems to do an article, and apport the information we know.
    I mean, to make a synergy. Each one puts what we know, and then, that information is free for the use. You add more information to my information, someone adds more... and we can collect a make an excellent condensation of information, because as you say, there is tons of information but that information is in short fragments in different places, so it's difficult to learn about this, reading only 1 book or article.

    Maybe another idea would be performing extremely simple experiments with electricity, and redefine the basic terms.

    Don't worry about the delete of the website. Just make a copy each day.
    I stayed in the home of a man that built some different free energy devices and I tested them. The man appeared in the newspapers in the 1960's and the government knows about his inventions. He also invented a cancer cure machine which I tested.

    The man is living in a farm and he has a really big free energy device in his farm (It can produce 300 KWatt of power). Anyone that goes with his automobile can see his big generator.

    The germans and other people have been in his farm and nothing had happened to him.
    He only was jailed once because the electric company thought that he was stealing power from the lines. After, he had some problems with the telephone company because he invented a wireless telephone in the 1960's also (maybe a mobile phone?). I asked him about that invention but he didn't want to explain me how that telephone worked.
    It could be possible that his phone connected without wires to the line, but some kind of electric phenomena, because in those years, the mobile antennas doesn't exist.
    The automobile company, Ford, called him and he traveled to USA to talk with the engineers. He also built a fuelless car, but he was prohibited to run it because he traveled in the village with that car.

    So, don't worry about NSA.

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  • adamo21
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    lamare, your awesome dude, we think a like. I also copied the page, and I also believe in reincarnation, so i dont fear death or fighting for freedom. "Give me liberty or death".

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  • MrMagAmp
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    Originally posted by lamare View Post
    Update:
    Just one more thing. The above is really why I dare to investigate and publish this information. You see, "they" may have killed Stanley Meyer and Marvin Cole, the real inventor of Gray's stuff. I don't know wether or not "they" did, but I certainly do not rule out the possibility. Whatever may be, I am not afraid of "them". I happen to believe in reincarnation, so really, I ain't fraid of noone. And apart from that, now that the information is out there, what on earth would spread this quicker than the occasion that I would get an "accident"? You see, that would only make things worse for "them". And that's why this information is here the way it is. I want the truth to be out there and this is the way to do just that.
    I only knew that Gray system was based in an information given to Gray by a Russian called Popov, maybe a friend of Tesla. But I didn't know that information about Marvin Cole!

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  • lamare
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    Originally posted by adamo21 View Post
    Guys, this is exactly how they get UFO's to levitate....its sickening that his technology hasnt been put to the use for all of humanity...its up to all of us to make that happen. THANK YOU for the information. If anyone can summarize any additional information and put it inside a PDF, that would benefit our species. I have a feeling this thread will disappear soon, for "National Security" reasons.
    If people want to help spreading this information and structuring it, it would be best to simply go to the article I started and edit that:
    Article:Free Electric Energy in Theory and Practice - PESWiki

    That way, you can "print to pdf" anytime you feel like it. This would be the most efficient way to do this.

    So, if anyone feels like helping a hand, that would be most appreciated. Even if you don't really understand the stuff, just copying and pasting the info from here to there (linking it back here) and structuring it would be marvelous! To be honest, I'm really not too good in doing that, so again: any help is most appreciated.

    And as for the fear this thread will dissappear: don't worry. My computer maintains a mirror of this site, which is updated every night. And I am am member of the members board of the Dutch Pirate Party and have been a candidate for the Dutch Parliament as well ( Piratenpartij Nederland ), which of course has a direct line to Piratpartiet | integritet - kultur - kunskap , which happens to host WikiLeaks, for example:
    Swedish Pirate Party to Host New WikiLeaks Servers | Piratpartiet

    So, I'd like to point anyone what may feel like closing this site down for "National Security" reasons to the following:
    Streisand effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And just in case: it couldn't hurt if anyone that reads this thread makes a copy on his/her personal computer. Then, if "they" are really stupid enough to make this dissappear after all, well, simply go to PPInternational , find the nearest Pirate Party and email them the stuff. I don think it will be necessary though, but just in case it may be needed: make sure to use the word "censored".

    And of course I declared everything I posted here to be part of the public domain, and the stuff over at PesWiki is under the GPL. This basically means you are free to copy all this stuff to your own website and make a backup. Should you feel like doing that, I think it would be best to add a section "mirrors" to the article at peswiki, so the information is always available somewhere on the net.

    To make a long story short:

    WE are not going to accept the dissapearance of this information
    .

    Update:

    Just one more thing. The above is really why I dare to investigate and publish this information. You see, "they" may have killed Stanley Meyer and Marvin Cole, the real inventor of Gray's stuff. I don't know wether or not "they" did, but I certainly do not rule out the possibility. Whatever may be, I am not afraid of "them". I happen to believe in reincarnation, so really, I ain't fraid of noone. And apart from that, now that the information is out there, what on earth would spread this quicker than the occasion that I would get an "accident"? You see, that would only make things worse for "them". And that's why this information is here the way it is. I want the truth to be out there and this is the way to do just that.
    Last edited by lamare; 08-28-2010, 10:17 AM.

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  • adamo21
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    Guys, this is exactly how they get UFO's to levitate....its sickening that this technology hasnt been put to the use for all of humanity...its up to all of us to make that happen. THANK YOU for the information. If anyone can summarize any additional information and put it inside a PDF, that would benefit our species. I have a feeling this thread will disappear soon, for "National Security" reasons.
    Last edited by adamo21; 08-28-2010, 08:58 AM.

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  • Aromaz
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    Thanks for this description. I dropped duality a long time ago; the slit experiment can greatly be manipulated anyway. However this light interferance does justify my going to dig out an old M&M expeiment and review some aspects.

    'Free energy' we already have it and plenty too. You will never be able to get more free energy than that which is radiated from the sun and universe. Solar energy (and cosmic) is very free. Only problem at present is that we can only convert small portion of it due to HF. Might soon be solved with the latest creations which is using multi layer nano tech and convert some 84%. Only problem there is extreme high frequency. The nano based solar cells are 80+ percent cheaper than quartz cells.

    Whatever other radaint / free energy we might develop, will always have the cost of equipment/tools to capture and convert; it will never be really FREE for the grabs.

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  • lamare
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    Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
    @lamare; I seek and answer, maybe you can help.

    By what method can I determine the resonance of the ambedient environment in a specific loacation?

    i.e. A) outside general environment/air?
    B) The earth crust at my location?

    I can do with many metals and crystals but the answer / experiment for
    environment elludes me.
    Same, how did Tesla and Schauberger came to their conclusions?
    @Aromaz: I don't have much time to think about this now.

    However, regarding your light questions, there is a very interesting and well known experiment about "wave-matter duality":

    Quantum Theory and Wave/Particle Duality


    At the left, a laser shines onto a plate with two very narrow slit. If you have two of these next to one another, you get an interference pattern. While this picture shows this to be very shiny and colorful, in the actual experiment you only see the pattern on the projection screen. So, there you have your invisible light.

    Basically, what happens is that the "rotation" component (the magnetic component) of the light cannot pass trough the slit, while the longitudinal component (electrostatic) can.

    So, in between the slits and the screen you have longitudinal waves, aka scalar waves. Scalar waves of light. These can interfere, while photons cannot, because they still have this rotational component, the magnetic, and therefore are particles that "bump" onto one another....

    So, in reality, the phenomenon of wave/matter duality is not really a duality. It's a conversion from vortexes into an electrostatic wave, which is also what is being done in any ordinary radio receiver. Konstantin Meyl described this very well, it's what is known in electrical engineering as "near field" versus "far field". So, the difference between the two is the magnetic component, the rotation of the ether such that vortexes are formed.

    Just a little note: There's a nice song on the radio, just when I wrote this: "It's the power of love".
    To me, this is interesting, because now that all this information is public knowledge, we are in for a very interesting ride, because we finally will have free energy, so we don't need to compete so much with one another anymore. I see a lovely future coming on!




    Update:
    I have been looking for pictures of this experiment that can confirm wether or not you can see the light in betwen the slits and the screen. Haven't been able to find a single one showing the whole setup of such an experiment. Now it has been a long time since I saw this experiment at school, but as far as I remember, you couldn't see the light on it's way from the slit to the screen or at least it was much dimmer. Would be interesting to know once and for all if this is the case. Of course, if there really are longitudinal waves between the slits and the screen, some of that would still be visible as reflection from dust in the air, but most of it should go by unseen.
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  • Aromaz
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    @lamare; I seek and answer, maybe you can help.

    By what method can I determine the resonance of the ambedient environment in a specific loacation?

    i.e. A) outside general environment/air?
    B) The earth crust at my location?

    I can do with many metals and crystals but the answer / experiment for
    environment elludes me.
    Same, how did Tesla and Schauberger came to their conclusions?

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  • lamare
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    Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
    Next item to investigate a bit further is not the individual capacitor and coil - but a single unit that is both coil and capacitor. There a slight modification on the Tesla Pancake is the point of origin.
    Every coil is both a coil and has so called "parasite capacitance", which is basically because of the fact that wires are the same thing as capacitor plates, so they act as capacitors. I explained that here:


    Note that I basically came up with Tesla's "hairpin" there:
    Here I posted about the pancake coil properties:

    However, in practice EM waves can take a "shortcut" in a coil speeding them up, and they can be slowed down as well. The first effect is due to what is known as "parasite capacitance". Every two pieces of metal form a capacitor, which is usually a very small value. However, in a coil, this value is significant at frequencies around the self resonance frequency of the coil. At those frequencies, the wave does not actually have to travel all the way around the coil to move to the next winding, but it sort of jumps over directly. This way, the propagation speed that appears from the outside, is higher then the speed of light. It's not so much that the wave really travels faster, it's more that it takes a shortcut.

    The slowing down effect is not 100% clear to me. However, I think it must be related to the coupled induction between two wires. Whenever a current travels trough a coil wire, it will create a magnetic field around itself, which induces a current in the wires (windings) that surround the wire. Somehow, this effects slows down the propagation speed.

    So, we have two effects that work opposite to eachother with respect to the propagation speed of a wave trough a coil. Experiments have shown that the height/diameter proportion of a coil determines which one of these effects "wins". For a flat "pancake" coil, height divided by diameter is very small. Then the "slowing down" effect is maximal, and you get a propagation speed that is significantly lower then the speed of light.
    For a long, thin coil, the "speeding up" effect is maximal, and you get a propagation speed that is significantly higher then the speed of light.
    Now we understand what magnetism is and we understand how the two fit together, this stuff also begins to make sense.

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  • lamare
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    Interesting stuff to think about. I'd say that if you really only can have longitudinal electric waves and vortexes in the ether, that you can have photons, which would be dual-vortexes, as shown in the moving picture by Nassim Haramein (google for his lectures at YouTube. Very interestng), and you can have longitudinal waves in the same frequency range as well.

    Then Tesla's "stinging discovery" is interesting:
    Article:Free Electric Energy in Theory and Practice - PESWiki

    Tesla considered this strange voltage multiplying effect from several viewpoints. The problem centered around the fact that there was no magnetic induction taking place. Transformers raise or lower voltage when current is changing. Here were impulses. Change was happening during the impulse. But there was no transformer in the circuit. No wires were close enough for magnetic inductions to take place. Without magnetic induction, there could theoretically be no transformation effect. No conversion from low to high voltage at all. Yet, each switch snap brought both the radiating blue-white sparks and their painful sting.

    High voltage impulse currents produced a hitherto unknown radiant ef*fect. In fact, here was an electrical "broadcast" effect whose implementation in a myriad of bizarre designs would set Tesla apart from all other inventors. This new electrical force effect was a preeminent discovery of great histori*cal significance. Despite this fact, few academicians grasped its significance as such. Focused now on dogmatizing Maxwell's work, they could not ac*cept Tesla's excited announcements. Academes argued that Tesla's effect could not exist. They insisted that Tesla revise his statements.

    Tesla's mysterious effect could not have been predicted by Maxwell be*cause Maxwell did not incorporate it when formulating his equations. How could he have done so, when the phenomenon was just discovered? Tesla now pondered the academic ramifications of this new effect. What then of his own and possibly other electrical phenomena, which were not incorpo*rated into Maxwell's force laws? Would academes now ignore their exist*ence? Would they now even dare to reject the possibility of such phenomena on the basis of an incomplete mathematical description?
    These spikes would go trough anything, unshieldable. It seems that these are longitudinal pressurelike shockwaves, which can be detected more or less only when the wave is in the shape of very strong spikes.

    Then there is an interesting link with this:


    Meyer basically tried to use fast switching pulses, high bandwidth, eventhough he got his balancing wrong. This is in a way similar to what you do with the SEC circuit, if I understand this right. However, coils are basically current driven, so if you want to drive a coil using voltage pulses trough coupling caps, Doc is right: you need fast switching and a very high bandwidth.
    Since we now understand the difference between electrostatic and magnetism (the rotating element you get with coils), you basically have the same problem if you want to detect this kind of energy. You are trying to drive matter (rotating, coil like) with electrostatic pressure ("voltage"), which only works when using "high pressure" and "fast switching". Since natural phenomenon most commonly resonate, it will be hard to detect.

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  • lamare
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    Gravity

    I think you must have figured out by now that it isn't gravity that keeps the particles in place in the cynematics exercise. That is very interesting, because if "gravity" exists in resonating fluids and there is a real fluidlike ether with such small particles that we cannot meausure them, then gravity would be exactly the same as in this analogy. Since these are standing waves, you would have standing areas with high pressure, and standing areas with low pressure of the fluid surrounding the sphere. Then the big particles would naturally flow towards the areas with the lowest ether pressure.

    If that would be the case, gravity would be nothing but an electric phenomenon, and you could theoritically overcome it very easily. You see, if there would be a gradient in the ether pressure around the earth, and ether pressure is the exact same phenomenon as the phenomenon we call the electric field, then you could create "anti gravity" simply by taking two capacitor plates and charge them in the opposit direction as the pressure gradient, right?

    Of course, we could not figure that one out by ourselves using "classic" EM theory, because if there is no ether, then gravity must be something else. How convenient:

    Unexplained Mysteries - Biefield-Brown Anti-Gravity Effect

    While researching the effects of X-rays generated from a Coolidge tube, American physicist, T. Townsend Brown found a relationship between gravity and high voltage. Press reports state that a 2 foot diameter disc was made to fly around a central pole when tethered and excited with a potential of 50 KiloVolts. The disc circled the pole at almost 12 MPH. Later improvements using 3 foot discs driven by potentials of 150 KiloVolts and up yielded results so spectacular that the test results were classified. Working in conjunction with Dr. P.A. Biefield, Brown found that highly charged capacitors when properly suspended showed a tendency to move relative to the gravitational force. When the poles of a freely suspended charged capacitor were placed on a horizontal axis a forward thrust would be produced which would move the capacitor in the direction of the positive pole.
    Oops, the capacitors would have to be asymmetrical:

    IceStuff.com: The electrostatic Lifter v3.0 experiment from The Encyclopedia of free energy,energy21.org,energy 21 org Geoff Egel

    The Lifter v3.0 uses nine asymmetrical T.T. Brown capacitors joined ( called cells ) so as to form a triangle assembly. Each asymmetrical capacitor is built with one electrode made with a thin corona wire placed at 30 mm from the main rectangular electrode constructed "ala" Townsend Brown.
    Now what would you do when you had "anti gravity" technology?
    Patent it, perhaps?

    Electrokinetic apparatus - US 2949550 A - IP.com

    And there are more interesting patents, by the way: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post54816

    So far, so good.


    Now something else. Think back to the cynematic stuff. Imagine a glass of water at your desk in which you make this beautiful structures. As you know, there are two kinds of waves, "longitudinal" and "transverse". Sound travels in a longitudinal direction, while in a guitar string you have a transversal movement. The difference between the two is the direction the "particles" in the medium move with respect to the movement of the wave. In a longitudinal pressure like wave, the movement of the particles gloes in the same direction as the wave, while in transversal waves, the particles move perpendicular with respect to the movement of the wave.

    Now think about this. Where is the transversal wave in your glass?

    ....

    At the water surface. At the *boundary* between two media with a different density. Now how on earth can you have transversal waves in a 3D fluidlike medium? I mean, the wave travels like an expanding sphere, so in which direction are the particals moving "transversally"?

    So, in the world of "real" fluids, there are no transverse waves "under water". Transverse waves are sort of like a "fingerprint" of a 3D longitudinal wave that occurs at the boundary between two media.

    So, in classic EM theory, we are dealing with an interesting problem. You see, because it is charge carriers that cause the field, you cannot have a field by itself. Now, if there are no charge carriers, like what is supposedly the case in the vacuum, it eventually turns out of the equations that there can be no longitudinal, pressurelike waves, which is also why they are still looking for "gravity waves", so they can finally understand gravity.

    However, in Quantum mechanics, you have all kinds of wave equations, with which you can do all kinds of calculations on atoms and for example predict the wave lengths of light that will be emitted when an atom has been "excited", as you do in a fluorescent bulb. Basically, that says matter is an electromagnetic wave.

    So, we end up with the situation that on the one hand they say longitudinal waves cannot exist in the vacuum, because the fields can only be created by charge carriers which are matter, while on the other hand they say matter is nothing but an electromagnetic wave. Make up your mind, folks! Either the field creates the matter, or the matter creates the field. Really, ye can't have them both at the same time, right?

    And of course, then they also manage to explain EM waves as being transversal waves, which would be the only types of waves that can exist, while in "real fluids" you cannot have transversal waves, except at the boundary of two media.

    Now look back at this "Cymatic Ferrofluid" picture. Basically the same exercise as with we saw before with sound. The only difference is that this time magnetic fluid is used, and you see the same kind of patterns. If there would be a real ether, you would say that it look exactly like a standing wave pattern and that the fluid naturally moves to the areas which have the lowest ether pressure.

    Now back to the question of what would happen when you would rotate such a cymatic thing. In the real fluid world, there's an interesting kind of filter you can use in your garden pond. A vortex filter, which basically rotates the water inside a cilinder. What happens is that at the outside of the cilinder, the pressure is a bit higher than in the centre, so all the dirt in your pond water ends up in the centre of the filter and drops to the bottom.
    You see the same thing more extreme when you pull the plug out of your bath tub and a vortex comes up, you know, like a hurricane.

    Now could it be that if you would be able have a very special, spiraling water hose inside a water vessel, such that the water would flow outside of the hose, but just along the surface of the hose, that it would be possible to make a vortex in the water?

    Now imagine you would do that at the bottom of a swimming pool.

    Then, you would basically get sort of like an apple with hole in the middle, where there is water rotating. Trough the hole, it moves quite rapidly down, because that's where you "drive" it, and at the bottom the water would flow to the side and would eventually end up at the top again.

    So, at one side of the watercoil, water would be sucked in, and at the other side it would flow out.

    Now if you would take two of these things, you would get funny things. If you try to push the outlets of the magnets together, you can only do that when the direction in which the water rotates matches. Otherwise you will get a lot of turbulence, etc.

    I can go on like this for a while, but to me it seems like we would basically have a "water magnet".

    So, then let's summarize this:

    The electric field as well as gravitation is a longitudinal wave propagating trough the ether.
    Magnetism is a 3D vortex in the ether.


    Now enter Viktor Schauberger:
    Viktor Schauberger, Anti gravity propulsion inventor

    Viktor Schauberger was an Austrian forester who was active during the first half of the 19:th century. He had a huge beard and a friendly laughter, this he combined with an uncompromising belief in himself and his ideas. He was obstinate in combination with a choleric temper. He was a good drawer and probably a skilled craftsman. Even if Viktor was not schooled the academic way he had a deep knowledge in biology, physics and chemistry. His sense and understanding on how water flows in the nature was exceptional. From his observations he formulated his new hydrodynamic basic theory. His friends and opponents described him as highly intelligent and with this intellectual sharpness he made a deep cut in his (and ours) physical paradigm.

    During World War Two, Victor Schauberger was interned in a Nazi concentration camp and was forced to work on a flying disk project using his ideas. It is not known if the project was completed, or, if the saucers actually flew in Germany. Reports vary, and no confirmed documentation remains. It is rather convincingly coincidental, however, that our own (US) pilots reported "strange flying disks" over Germany just prior to the War's end. After World War II, Viktor migrated to the United States on promises by various agencies (CIA) to help him develop and test his ideas. Those promises later proved to be hollow. He went to a facility in Dallas Texas, and under uncertain direction, signed over all of the rights to his inventions and patents, to, none other than the US government (Army, Navy...who knows?!). He was sent back to his home-land of Austria, only to die, broken and disillusioned five days later. It would make a great headline for the 'National Enquirer'...and unfortunately...it's TRUE!
    Viktor Schauberger :



    So, if there is no ether, how on earth could a water expert be useful in the research into this kind of technology?
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  • DrStiffler
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    Originally posted by lamare View Post
    First a bit about what Cynematics is:
    The Structure and Dynamics of Waves and Vibrations by Hans Jenny



    Basically, you have some particles floating in a fluid and vibrate that with sound.




    Now take a look at this picture:


    See this ball-like structure in the centre?

    Two questions to think about:
    1. What force makes the matter stick in that centre?
    2. What would happen if you would rotate this whole thing?


    And then look at this:





    Why does magnetism do the same things?
    @lamare + all

    Enjoyed the link, reminds me of my reading of "Zero", The Biography of a Dangerous Idea by Charles Seife, ISBN: 0-670-88457-X.

    Without zero (0) I would be lost in the cold, would not we all?

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