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  • Harvey
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    Hi Loadstone,

    Actually the rig does provide a continuous flux path that locks the elements together.

    This was one of the first things I evaluated using FEMM
    (See post http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post94848)

    The 'lock' as David calls it, or the PMH function as Ed called it is not as strong in Davids design as it is with the U-Shaped magnet and keeper - something many of you have already demonstrated very well - but the lock is there, weakly.

    I demonstrated this also in my video YouTube - AdminOnDuty's Channel

    The greater the flux density flowing through the elements, the stronger the magnetic influence on the domains in the material. It is this continuous path that keeps the domains recursively in alignment and holds the flux perpetually even in a soft magnetic material like this pipe. When the flux path is broken, the field collapses and can produce enough power to light a lamp. This also has been demonstrated in the U-Shaped PMH videos out there.

    When you say you do not think it is not locked - I took that as a typo rather than a true double negative right?

    The thing here is that the lock is not bound tight enough to overcome the forces of mass gravity or inertial gravity (centrifugal force) so it is necessary to have the elements wrapped in some manner. Now in my case I did not use any screws to hold them to the HDPE wheel, that was all friction. But in David's case he did screw four of the elements to the HDPE. It is possible to get non-locked elements to hold the configuration shown in my video because of the geometry involved, but the stability is much more fragile than that shown and the smallest twist causes it to fall apart. But when it is locked, there is a magnetic bond between each and every element that helps to keep it from separating easily. I can tell when the lock has been lost in my rig because the elements get loose and want to fall out. But when the lock is there, they stay in place and offer resistance to movement. You can see that in the YouTube - Lambright - 029 video I did when I try and remove one of the elements to break the lock - I had to fish around to find one that I could remove easily because most of them were still locked together. I was worried that the whole thing was going to fall apart when I removed that one and you may notice that when I spun it up the second time I did not spin it as fast as the first time for fear of it all falling apart.

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  • david lambright
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    hi....

    the device i built is loosely based on Leedskalnins "generator" design...the lock i refer to is not as strong as a U and keeper type lock, more like clean connections at all junctions held tightly together, [zip tied] then energized to start an orbit in the ring of segments.....this setup radiates a VISIBLE energy from the device.....this radiation has been seen by over 100 people...replicators on this and other forums have copied my device and have seen this VISIBLE radiant energy emanating from it....this same energy interacts with matter and creates gravitational anomalies....i believe that Eds generator produced this same energy, and that Tesla and others saw this same energy.......i also believe that he spun this energy field into a vortex with his generator and that is where he got his "power" to lift heavy stones....i have seen this energy around every PMH i have ever made.....i have seen this same energy start a vortex above my device....this energy starts to take on "colours" as it flows....many people have seen both of these effects also......some people see it right off with out me saying a word....some it takes longer...it took my father a long time....this radiation is absolutely REAL!...this is not anyones imagination or some reflection or trick on the eyes.....i believe that those who do not see it right away are 'looking past the mark....this energy is not geographical either....i believe Eds generator was designed to make radiant energy...there are some who are still trying to make electricity with copies of his device.....i also believe that his generator, when energized, started a radiant flow and that he spun this energy into a vortex, large enough to perpetuate its spinning and was able to direct this energy through wires [it likes to flow in metal] to be used elsewhere........david

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  • Loadstone
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    Hey Harvey.
    I don't think David's rig is not magnetically locked!

    It has nothing to do with math, it's about magnet function.
    David's rig does not make the right kind of field to force a lock to happen.
    The magnets run better in the metal than in the air so they stray a bit from the coil used, but they are soon dispersed, and as soon as the current is stopped everything is gone, except for a remanent around the coil core as it is made of steel.

    Make a small PMH and put a straight thick wire throuth the middle. Hit the wire with a big battery and the R/H thumb rule will lock it
    I use a 3" split pin and laminated keeper.
    That will give a better idea about the order of things.
    "When the individual N and S pole magnets are started in an orbit they will never stop...." Ed. L
    Last edited by Loadstone; 09-17-2010, 06:47 AM. Reason: add quote

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  • sucahyo
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    Originally posted by Harvey View Post
    So to clarify things - (if possible) the delta flux = 12V * delta time. So the shorter the period of time that the voltage is applied, the lower the change in flux. This means that the voltage must be applied long enough to reach maximum flux value for that current flow.
    Thanks for the explanation. I forget that it supposed to be unbreakable. How long is long? Isn't leedskalnin suggest very long thin wire?

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  • Harvey
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    Originally posted by IndianaBoys View Post
    Harvey,

    I believe he is referring to the surprise ending of one your recent videos.

    IndianaBoys
    Of Course!

    How could I forget that? Sorry Sucahyo, I just didn't make the connection - Thanx IndianaBoys for getting my brain back on track

    Yes that was the surprise, when the whole ring fell apart -completely unexpected and surprising - it doesn't take much force if the lock is lost. But it did make me laugh when it happened and I thought it may bring a smile or two for those willing to endure the video to the end.

    I've been thinking about how much flux is contained during the lock. As David has indicated, it is possible to get a good lock even with just a single turn of wire. I have two turns on mine. But more turns does cause more flux. I have been wondering if the effect is a by product of saturation and if part of the reason some of cannot see it in our rigs is simply because we have not reached the same flux density that David has. Recall that David charged the rig that went to Bruce and after a few days Bruce was able to see the effect.

    I have an idea, to wrap each element, or every other element with two turns and wire them all in parallel using a copper ring for positive and a copper ring for negative. This way, I can use the same battery voltage - but the current flow will increase for the system. As long as the overall current is less than that used by a car starter motor, I think the battery will handle the surge just fine. This should multiply the flux.

    An alternative method would be to wire the coils in series - but this would require a multiplication in voltage in order to keep the same current in the increased wire length. If my two turn coil requires 12V and I multiply this to every other element, say 12 elements then, we would need 144V for the same diameter wire (20AWG in my case). But, the current is extremely high for fractions of a second.

    Speaking of fractions of a second, this can be a very important part of magnetic flux calculations. The formula:

    Borrowed from Magnetic flux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia helps us to see that Voltage (ε)= the change in magnetic flux (dΦm) divided by the change in time (dt).

    This means that since our voltage is relatively constant, a faster delta time must result in a greater delta phi m. In simple terms, the faster we apply and remove the constant voltage, the greater the change in magnetic flux.

    This is one reason I think that dragging the arc across the wire can improve things. The objective is not to strike an continuous arc, nor to stay in contact with the wire through the movement - instead, the objective is to create as many independent arcs as possible during the strike. This can create hundreds of applications and removals of the voltage and the time at which that occurs can be nanoseconds which increases the flux.

    This is also an advantage of the parallel application because the inductance is much lower and this affords much faster response times.



    EDIT: Wow - that's completely backwards My gut nagged me when I posted it - and then I double checked the math - D'OH!

    So to clarify things - (if possible) the delta flux = 12V * delta time. So the shorter the period of time that the voltage is applied, the lower the change in flux. This means that the voltage must be applied long enough to reach maximum flux value for that current flow.

    So arcing it here causes a BEMF AC current effectively degaussing the rig and heating up the coil . Leaving the connection too long does the same thing. But arcing it does also emit a huge array of various EM wavelengths and perhaps those that the rig is tuned to somehow interact with it in a way that helps the lock?
    Last edited by Harvey; 09-16-2010, 11:19 PM.

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  • IndianaBoys
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    Originally posted by Harvey View Post
    Breaking Part? Surprising?

    Sorry, I can't recall what this applies to - can you refresh my memory?

    Thanks
    Harvey,

    I believe he is referring to the surprise ending of one your recent videos.

    IndianaBoys

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  • Harvey
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    Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
    Anyone curious enough to throw in some quartz in the ice?


    @Harvey, you mean the breaking part? What make it surprising?
    Breaking Part? Surprising?

    Sorry, I can't recall what this applies to - can you refresh my memory?

    Thanks

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  • Jetijs
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    Hi all.
    Today I cleaned some magnets and tried magnetizing them with my big neo magnets and a keeper. It magnetizes very good and strong, much better than any tool steel I have tried before. The magnetic strength is good, something like a ferrite magnet the same size.




    Thanks,
    Jetijs

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  • david lambright
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    hi

    question;....who all did i promise to build the oxide core devices for?.....i have had so much going on....please let me know....david

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  • sucahyo
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    Anyone curious enough to throw in some quartz in the ice?


    @Harvey, you mean the breaking part? What make it surprising?

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  • david lambright
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    jet...

    with a galvanic action, an actual metal to metal contact is required? ....the coil on the device should be completely insulated from both the aluminum and the oxide core...have you checked your device to see if it is insulated with an Ohm meter?.......david

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  • Jetijs
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    Thanks Lodestone, yes, cleaning them is not easy, but I only need 24 of them
    David, if this is a glavanic reaction then the bigger the surface area, the greater currents will be produced, of course still in miliamp range max. I think, that your coil wire is a good size But from what you told about voltage between aluminum and coil wire, this should be galvanic action between two dissimilar metals for sure, just like a potato battery with zinc and copper
    P.S. your orgonite pendant is in the mail, you should receive it somewhere in the middle of next week

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  • david lambright
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    hi everyone...

    @jet...the inner coil is insulated copper...where i was testing the coil was between one end of the inner coil and the outside of the tube....i did not detect any voltage when i checked the ends of the inner coil...only from one wire end of the inner coil, to the outside of the aluminum tubing....i am going to build one today, using 1/2" vinyl tubing and an inner coil...question; should i use thinner wire for my inner coil?.....david

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  • Loadstone
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    Hey JEDI, glad to hear you got your magnets. Like I said they are out there.
    Pain in the arse to clean up though. I've still got dozens to clean myself.

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  • Loadstone
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    Hi all.
    I'm posting this pic of the connections for a PMH according to Ed's notes.
    Some people find Ed's words a bit confusing.
    Notice also that the start winding (SW) is pointing West and the end winding (EW) is pointing East. Ed uses that setup in other tests too.
    Attached Files

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