gravity waves found

[occy30]

So compared to normal thermal radiating heat, does black body radiation (the EM kind) dissipate heat as quickly (specifically in a vacuum)? I got the impression that it doesn't (thus the reason a thermos will hold hot liquid for a long period of time but eventually the substance does cool down).

[Harvey]

GB, our atmosphere is mostly vacuum space with some gasses and water mixed in. All EM radiation is able to traverse a vacuum, including IR. Also, your link to the Geissler Tube seems missing and your description seems to be for the Crookes Tube. It should be noted that in both cases, photons are generated by electrons interacting with other matter within the tube. The reaction is like the CRT in my television where electrons interact with the phosphor and produce visible light which easily exits the vacuum and passes through glass with no problem.

I've always understood the colors associated with sunrise and sunset to be related to scattering. Also of note is the atmospheric refraction that plays a part too. Since the Exosphere is 10,000 km above the surface of the Earth at noon with no change in white light, I find it difficult to understand how going from 10,000 km to 16,378 km will turn it from white to red. How does the light know not to change the first 10,000 km? It seems more reasonable that it is not the distance that effects the light color as much as it is the angle and medium. The air has higher density closer to the surface of the Earth and there is some lensing effects due to the curvature and boundary layers. But even then, it is the scattering that gives us the blue and the red, not the lensing. The Green Flash however would be associated with refraction.

[gravityblock]

Heat rays, or infra-red rays, require a dense medium, for they cannot pass through a vacuum. Visible light can travel in a semi-vacuum and in a dense medium to a certain extent, but not as well as infra-red rays do. In an absolute vacuum there is no propagation of light. This can better be seen in the so-called holes in space, such as the "Coal Sack" in the Milky Way. In a Geissler tube also, it can be seen that light ceases to cast a shadow when the pressure within the tube is very low. However, a vacuum is the ideal medium for the propagation of waves above the frequency of visible light.

Looking at the problem in this way, the light that reaches the Earth's surface is modified. If this were not so, the chemical rays would destroy life on Earth. Behold the wisdom of God, who protects the planets close to the Sun by giving them a cloak of dense atmosphere and ether, and gives those distant ones, whose speed of revolution is low, a thin covering. The modification of solar light can be seen at sunrise or sunset, when it is red, whereas at midday it is white. This modification from white to red takes place over a distance of 6,758 km., equal to the equatorial radius of Earth, which is the extra distance the light must travel to reach the observer, compared with the light at midday. While the latter has to penetrate 400,822 km. of ether, the light of the rising Sun has to travel 407,200 km. Between white and red light there is a difference of 30,000 mgcs. per second. If the light loses 30,000 mgcs. in 6,758 km., how much will it lose in 407,200?

If the wavelength remains the same and the frequency is considerably increased, this must mean that the waves from the Sum reach the Earth's etheric covering at a much higher speed. We can see the same thing in the difference of the speed of light in the atmosphere and in water. It is only 140,000 miles per second in water, as opposed to 186,000 in the atmosphere. Therefore, density has a considerable effect on its speed. Light which becomes visible on reaching the Earth's surface reaches the etheric envelope of the Earth at a speed of 6,250,000 miles per second, and light that is above the visible spectrum on reaching the Earth arrives at far higher speeds. For the Sun emits its energy at various wavelengths and at different frequencies. Its emission is never uniform.

We have reached a point where we can say that the light of the Sun exerts on Earth a pressure equal to the weight of light, measured at the Earth's surface, plus the energy lost in traversing the 400,000 km. of etheric mass.

GB

[gravityblock]

Does light have to reach us, for us to be able to see a phenomenon taking place at a distance?

Here's an example. in an ordinary Geissler tube, electrons are unable to penetrate the walls of the tube, or for that matter, any other material except alumimum. This has been proved experimentally by placing a cross inside the tube in the electron beam. This cross causes a shadow, showing that the electrons were stopped. Even if this cross were made of glass, the electrons would not go through it.

So, if light or electrons are incapable of going through glass, how I ask, can one see shadows and Faraday bands inside the lighted tube. Light could not get out of the tube, yet one could see into it. We should not confuse light and image, because universal phenomena take place everywhere at the same time.

GB

[gravityblock]

@Occy30 and Harvey,

Heat comes from the Sun, but in the form of high frequency waves, which are then transformed into heat waves. This transformation takes place in the atmosphere of the planets. They do not come from the Sun in the form of heat because heat will not travel through a vacuum. Even the heat on the Sun is bearable, it is merely a field in which electrical forces operate.

Besides the heat that is developed by the frequency of the Sun's rays, heat is also developed by the pressure of the light of the Sun. At sunrise the oblique rays of the Sun do not exert any pressure and one has the impression that the Sun is a large red disc of no power, but when it is at its zenith one can sense the intensity of its rays pushing against the ground.

The Sun's luminosity is not related to its heat. On Earth there are also sources of cold light. A neon bulb shows that light is not always hot. Many insects develop cold light, as well as certain vegetables which produce a luminescence by bacteriological action.

GB

[Harvey]

Thermal equilibrium is reached via blackbody radiation. What this means is that for a particular material in a vacuum, it will radiate all of its thermal energy by internally converting it to EM radiation until it reaches absolute zero - provided of course that no other external energy is supplied to it. In the case of our satellites, for example, they absorb some energy (that which is not reflected) on the sun facing side and radiate energy on the 'dark' shadowed side and thus find an equilibrium for their particular path and station.

Certain probes that have been sent as observers of the Sun, never did burn up and although have expired remain in their heliocentric orbits.

The common Thermos uses a vacuum barrier between the inner glass and outer glass or metals to prevent heat transfer by thermal conduction. However, they are problematic from a blackbody radiation standpoint and will eventually lose all internal energy. For this reason they generally have a reflective coating like a mirror to reflect most EM radiation at the common frequencies associated with their use. This reflective surface helps keep the energy from propagating the vacuum.

The Sun's energy traverses ~92.9 million miles through the vacuum of space to reach the Earth. Technically, this is radiative heat similar to that of a radiant heater. The term 'heat' of itself is a term representative of a transfer of thermal energy from one place to another place. The precise method of that transfer is not specific to the term and is often added with the term as a modifier to offer proper context. Infrared radiation is a well known carrier of thermal energy and is practically universal which is why IR thermometers are so widely accepted.

It is possible, I suppose, to inject energy into a mass (like a spacecraft) at a rate that exceeds the radiative ability of that mass to dissipate the energy. Such is the case of computer processors. The mass which comprises the processor is incapable of relieving the thermal energy produced internally and the temperature would eventually rise to the point of material state change (liquefaction) if the thermal energy were not removed by artificial means. In this case the removal typically involves three processes; 1. conduction into a heat sink, 2. IR thermal radiation, 3. Convection to the fluid air.

In space, radiative fins could be used to sink thermal energy away from the occupied craft via conduction and then those fins can radiate the energy back into space via EM radiation. However a well designed craft would put the thermal differentials to work rather than waste the available energy. This is especially true when we consider that the shaded sides are always losing energy to space at some EM frequency - some balance would need to be made to keep the occupants from eventually freezing to death.



Why do spaceships get cold if their heat turns off? What do they lose heat to if they're in a vacuum? - Yahoo! Answers

[occy30]

In late September 2010, WISE ran out of the coolant needed to chill its infrared detectors. How cold do the sensors need to be? I thought it was pretty cold in space. Just more lies to try and keep Tyche covered up.

GB

I know this post is a little dated but space has no temp. It's a vacuum (not perfect but still mostly empty). You need matter to move in order to have heat or cold and space lacks it. This is also a big reason some people believe that we never walked on the moon. There is no way to regulate temperature in space. Basically the sun would continue to heat your craft (because it's made of matter and the radiation is exciting anything in the sunlight) and there would be no way to cool your craft down (think about how a thermos works). Air conditioners do not work in vacuums. So basically anyone who goes into space would be fried literally (and has happened as the Russians found out decades ago). When you consider this fact, really makes the moon landings look pretty fake.

[Van T Stride]

What happened to Potatoheadist?

Hey, we might need to send somebody by to check on David. I'm worried that maybe the MIB got him. What if the unmarked aircraft came in the middle of the night and they confiscated Dave and his device?

Anybody know how to reach him?

Van

[sucahyo]

As regards the exposure, do you have specific digital camera models that support time lapse prolonged exposure?

Sorry, I don't have digital camera yet.

Personally, I think any recording of this will require a wide band superimposition detector ranging from low RF to above UV.

I guess film camera is best for that?

Also, I think there are patterns setup in David's (and others) Persistence of Vision ocular networks that are converted to colors, patterns or other imagery that the average person simply dismisses. The ability of the brain to do this was shown in the early LSD studies (and hence exploited by the entertainment industry) where this acid enhances the visual imagery associated with motion - specifically, color trails were noted to follow the motion of ones hands and other moving objects.

Very interesting. It seems not related to people's different speed perception.

So we don't know what 'motion' these fellows are seeing that they are able to convert. But I did find it interesting that more than one person noted a 'flowing' action down that tube and I was unable to see anything at all. And that was from the video that they saw that motion.

I wonder if people who can see motion in video should be able to see motion in real things and the opposite.

One day, with the right tools, perhaps the world will see what David sees

Yes .

[Oskar]

David. i haven't read every page just the beginning until you got the stone to "sing"... can you please get a tuning fork ? and use the tuning fork with the stone when its singing and see what happens, cause i think that you need one.
I have some theories but its better that you test this. I have to build my own generator first hehe. But i think a tuning fork can maybe do some tricks. So when you try the tuning fork, use the generator to get the "singing sound" from the stone, and try matching that tune with the tuning fork, so the fork gets the same sound, then use them together. maybe you need to magnetize the tuning fork, but test without magnetizing it then test with magnetizing it, get it to vibrate at the same tune or singing as the stone so they sing together. might get some interesting results..

[mikrovolt]

to David Lambright,
The visible spectrum where we perceive with our eyes limits our
thinking to what we see. However there are other spectra that humans have explored visually with technical aid of devices. most of which are on the right and left of our visible spectrum. There are animals that have this ability.
please review these utubes as it is fairly unexplored territory with respect to visually percieved energy flow.

FLIR is used by police. The application I am presenting is examining energy attributes.
I wanted to remind about hot/cold since there is some relationship to the cells.
cold is the absense of heat.
YouTube - FLIR thermal infrared: the camera itself, + more demos

The clouds are able to show us existence of gravity waves.
with Leedskalnin it is a question of finding the what part of the spectrum.

[Harvey]

Am I correct that no one try this yet with digital camera? Anyone willing to try it on object like magnet or people?

I think experimentation has completely stalled because the "working" units were never properly corroborated by those they were sent to.

As regards the exposure, do you have specific digital camera models that support time lapse prolonged exposure?

Personally, I think any recording of this will require a wide band superimposition detector ranging from low RF to above UV.

Also, I think there are patterns setup in David's (and others) Persistence of Vision ocular networks that are converted to colors, patterns or other imagery that the average person simply dismisses. The ability of the brain to do this was shown in the early LSD studies (and hence exploited by the entertainment industry) where this acid enhances the visual imagery associated with motion - specifically, color trails were noted to follow the motion of ones hands and other moving objects.

So we don't know what 'motion' these fellows are seeing that they are able to convert. But I did find it interesting that more than one person noted a 'flowing' action down that tube and I was unable to see anything at all. And that was from the video that they saw that motion.

Honestly, I'm burned out on all of this myself - I've requested stuff from David that never arrived, Glen offered to provide live video feed and that never happened, who ever has the roving device hasn't posted their results, and those that had the device already posted vague results at first that seemed to get better with time.

All in all, the burden of proof rests in David's lap and we are only here to help him where we can (which from my end has been rather slim despite my efforts). David claimed in the beginning that we would not be disappointed. I have consistently stuck by him trying to get this identified in a way that could be accepted by mainstream and I find myself disappointed.

However, in David's defense, he really expected that what he was seeing would be readily observable by everyone and I'm certain that his claim that we would not be disappointed was laid on that solid foundation of what he and his associates were witnessing firsthand.

I think this thread has proven to be an expose of many different perspectives and perceptions more than that of gravity waves themselves, but still quite educational and definitely worth the trip. So from a learning perspective, it certainly has not been disappointing.

One day, with the right tools, perhaps the world will see what David sees

[sucahyo]

I thought that was discussed already and David told us he was going to use his Brownie. I even gave him some links to the the 620 film retailers.

Am I correct that no one try this yet with digital camera? Anyone willing to try it on object like magnet or people?

[Harvey]

David, if you still want to see the energy try this:


Info shared by robur.

I think you should try to take the picture (video not possible) with very long exposure on completely dark room. Some camera that support manual shutter speed is canon and benq. Set is as long as possible and maybe with night mode as well.

I thought that was discussed already and David told us he was going to use his Brownie. I even gave him some links to the the 620 film retailers.

[sucahyo]

David, if you still want to see the energy try this:

Also note that this photo was taken in a perfectly dark room with a time exposure of about 1 to 3 minutes, (our information regarding the technical details is very limited).

Info shared by robur.

I think you should try to take the picture (video not possible) with very long exposure on completely dark room. Some camera that support manual shutter speed is canon and benq. Set is as long as possible and maybe with night mode as well.