gravity waves found

[david lambright]

witsend..

thanks....your insight into this is nothing short of INCREDIBLE!! this energy wave is being revealed!!!!! and you are correct.....this is getting good! ......david

[david lambright]

candle shadowgraph!

this will help!.....david

[witsend]

If you've got some kind of magnetic interaction going on, then the electrons/ions around the thing would clearly be moving..... Could it be that the electron holds the temporarily higher energy state for longer than usual, long enough to physically move to a different position before it kicks out a photon, so that new photon is traveling in a slightly different path?

Hi SupercaviTationistic. I wonder if we're perhaps getting to the heart of the problem here. I think the general assumption in mainstream is that light is deflected off surfaces at an angle that is consistent with the level of penetration of each photon into the structure. This determines the emitted 'wave length'. Hence we get distinct colour and texture gradients that differentiates one material from another, one colour from another. We know that these 'differences' are easily readable. So we can differentiate a crocus from a car motor - and so on. We also know that - to the best of our knowledge - we can film motors and, thus far, have not been alerted to any significant distortions in our view of such motors. Assuming that motors use some combination of permanent and/or induced magnet fields - then I think we can rule out the 'changing levels' of interaction that may induce some variation to the photon's emission from such material. Else we would have seen the same level of distortion and Dave would not be showing us anything new.

So if simple magnetic fields - induced or otherwise, don't cause that distortion of light, and if simple electric fields also don't cause it - based on the same principle that if they did - then we'd know of this effect, then the question is what is causing it? We do know that various 'localities' can cause the same effect. We've been shown this. Perhaps, whatever condition applies to those localities may be what Dave has duplicated in his rig?

So the next question - presumably, - is what is that 'rare' combination of forces that is in this 'rig' that may account for the 'effect' and what has this got in common with the locality dependent phenomena that does similar distortions? We only know that the rig comprises simple magnetisable material that has been bent into a unique shape to generate what logically seems to be a combination of attractive and repulsive magnetic fields that somehow manage to stay 'locked' in shape. Could it be that these 'locality dependent' phenomena also have rare combinations of just such fields that have been induced inside the earth at those localities? And if so, then could it be that such combinations are able to 'bend light' in the same way that gravity is known to be able to bend light?

And then. The next question. Is this 'combination' of magnetic fields therefore the same thing as 'gravity' itself. If so, then one can perhaps propose that our earth's magnetic fields may, themselves, be the source of our gravitational fields. Again - the suggestion is not that far out. Einstein himself proposed this - and then eschewed it. I don't know why. All I know is that the liklihood of magnetism and gravity being the same thing is feasible provided only that these same magnetic fields permeate all of space. Because gravity is known to be a universal force. Personally I have no problem with this concept. But it's not a popular thought.

What would be interesting is to see where Dave's rig actually takes us. So far the evidence is that there's a distinct anomaly and that it seems to do to light what convention has determined can only be done by gravity.

Which - as always, is just my humble opinion.

[witsend]

This thread is getting weird. Can someone explain the relevance of enessilergo's posts. It gives a kind of 'theatre of the absurd' dimension to a topic that is itself becoming somewhat crytic.

Light may bend. I have no idea of these new technologies. But it strikes me that there is no conclusive evidence of this and the proof, if extant, is only managed under some exotic technologies. The simple rule is that light irradiates outwards in a straight line from the source. It can be deflected, reflected, refracted and defracted. That's it. Certainly there is nothing in Dave's rig that includes any strange materials required to generate 'dark light' or to angle it that it can bend around corners as apparently managed by the 'invisibility cloak'. And even there it strikes me that there is a graduated angling of the light that it describes a 'bend' rather than actually moving into a true angular path.

[david lambright]

cereal...

philosophy, is the talk on a cereal box......edie birkel....new bohemians

[david lambright]

ZERO heat!

I agree. Provided always that we're talking about 'hot air'. Not sure that there's that much heat between Dave's camera and his rig. But I'm open to correction.

there is no heat being generated...the distortions are made by this energy wave...that is why i was asking about the heat....the heat from a torch can be seen in a shadow or ....i saw a video about this screen... you have seen this setup before,i will bet.....people at saturday market were saying it looked like gas fumes or heat.....i will bet that "screen" setup will be revealing........david

[david lambright]

now we are getting some where!

If light can't be bent then how do glasses and contact lenses work?

I think Harvey might be right when he said light bends when it moves from one material to another with different density.
Invisibility-Cloak Materials Bend Light "Backward"

if this energy form is what i say it is, these materials must reflect this energy in exactly the same way...if i could get a sample...way past my payscale!.....david

[enessilergo]

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[SuperCaviTationIstic]

Light doesn't need to be BENT for it's direction to change.....
A photon hits an atom.... an electron in the atom absorbs the photon....
The electron bumps up a level for a short period of time....
The electron falls back to its original stage, and emits a new photon of a new wavelength...

If you've got some kind of magnetic interaction going on, then the electrons/ions around the thing would clearly be moving..... Could it be that the electron holds the temporarily higher energy state for longer than usual, long enough to physically move to a different position before it kicks out a photon, so that new photon is traveling in a slightly different path?

[witsend]

Oh, I agree with you witsend (about heat not being involved here) however, I'm pretty sure we have been just using the heat distortion analogy to illustrate visual light deflection (I was anyway ).

Regards

TP

TP I get it. You're right.

[teslaproject]

Indeed

I agree. Provided always that we're talking about 'hot air'. Not sure that there's that much heat between Dave's camera and his rig. But I'm open to correction.

Oh, I agree with you witsend (about heat not being involved here) however, I'm pretty sure we have been just using the heat distortion analogy to illustrate visual light deflection (I was anyway ).

Regards

TP

[witsend]

Here again, sorry if my answer seems frustrating but it is a 'how long is a piece of string' query.

It really depends on your 'plane' of view and how much distortion 'depth' you are looking through. The greater the depth, the LESS heat required....it's proportional. Let me illustrate...Mirage effects (the silver sheen that looks like water on a dry hot lake)....if you squat really low to the ground (increasing the depth of view through the distortion), you can actually see mirage effects close up on a relatively 'cooler' day. However, if you jump on a high step ladder or into a helicopter for a birds eye view, the sheen will vanish and only be visible far on the horizon if it is a REALLY hot day.

Regards

TP

I agree. Provided always that we're talking about 'hot air'. Not sure that there's that much heat between Dave's camera and his rig. But I'm open to correction.

[enessilergo]

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[witsend]

If light can't be bent then how do glasses and contact lenses work?

CatLady, Light can be defracted, refracted, deflected and reflected. You can manipulate light in multiple ways through multiple mediums. But light is not known to bend other than in a gravitational field. Always it travels in a straight path. Possibly you're referring to some new knowledge that is not generally known. In which case you may very well be right. Mainstream go to some lengths to explain that light DOES NOT BEND except in a gravitational field. In fact I was referring to Teslaproject's observations where he likens light to a bullet's path. I think it's a neat analogy. Hit something and the bullet may well 'veer off course'. The same with light. But the difference is that light - once it's reflected, deflected, refracted or defracted - then it just continues in a straight line. That's its nature.

Technically, if light could bend it would be theoretically feasible to design a light source that bends around itself and therefore is never emitted from its source. Unlikely. But nice if it were possible for purposes of energy conservation. Then hell of it is that we'd never see that light unless it was also emitted from that source. So it's value would be negated.

[CatLady]

Bending Light

If light can't be bent then how do glasses and contact lenses work?

I think Harvey might be right when he said light bends when it moves from one material to another with different density.
Invisibility-Cloak Materials Bend Light "Backward"