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  • mrbreau
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    What does the compass say?

    @ David

    Originally posted by david lambright View Post
    you can energize the device after assembly...a compass will tell you when you have lock ...
    What is the procedure to knowing that the wheel is locked? What does the compass do that is different when the wheel is locked? What should I be looking for?

    I was of the opinion that each side of each part would show a different pole but that is now what I got. Instead, I got four poles, two norths and two souths. I assumed the wheel was locked having gotten that far. Thinking that two norths and two souths was a locked wheel isn't so very far fetched since a washer shaped magnet has just that as does the cylinder magnet in the fan motors I've hacked. Now I'm finding other motors with even more poles in them.

    Warren
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  • thekubiaks
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    and now we return to the "Gravity Waves found" discussion and the Saturday videos....

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  • Harvey
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    Originally posted by mrbreau View Post
    Link; YouTube - FUELLESS HEATER NO FUEL NO GAS NO WOOD NO GREEN HOUSE GASES

    Here is a start to a neat search. It is about four or five years old but gaining ground. This guy decided to capitalize on the water hammer and has now produced and sold a few systems. FWIW

    Sorry! I know this is off topic but the answer has to be presented where the question was asked. Right?

    Warren
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    Actually, it may be closer to on-topic than we may realize!

    Notice the action occurring in this video:
    YouTube - SPR Cavitation Dye Test

    And the descriptor of what is happening here:
    R&D - Hydro Dynamics, Inc.

    I can't help but see a similarity between the top view profile of David's elements and the cavity used in those SPR rotors.

    Could it be that David is getting a similar cavitation in the elements with air? Perhaps the relative humidity and dew point are critical factors

    Just exploring all the possibilities here

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  • Harvey
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    Originally posted by Vickers View Post
    hey dave, My crazy paranoid uncle will delete this post tomorrow but anyway.. I owe u an explanation for what u got there... I'll do u a trade off. U a plumber. Tell me y a good water hammer does not stop. no input .no air leak. that annoying noise just keeps going regardless of physics. There a million ways to fix it but no ways to take advantage of it. Anyway bro. I built a few contraptions to utilize the hammer but they failed badly.Give me a heads up on the hammer, or at least an idea ..and i will tell u the missing component u need for your device. lol. i tell u anyway regardless. just that u the only plumber i know.
    In my research on this subject I found there were actually two different types of noise, 'water hammer' and spontaneous resonant vibration. These are both caused by different things but produce a similar noise and are allowed by the plumbing for similar reasons - resonant pipes.

    Water Hammer is caused by an abrupt stop of current flow in the pipe that sends a subsequent reflected shockwave back through the pipes to the source. This is a product of the water inertia and a resonant pipe configuration sympathetic to reflected waves.

    Here is a page on calculating water hammer with transient analysis:
    Water Hammer Applet. Calculation, Equations, Formulas. Hydraulic Transients

    Spontaneous Resonant Vibration is caused by pressure changes in a static pipe where something attached to the system is flexible or where dissolved gases in the water are allowed to decompress. In the case of the flexible attachment, this is often a toilet valve or other valve that opens under greater pressure just a small amount and then closes just as soon as the pressure drops creating an oscillation. In some cases the flexible object does not even have to pass water current but just has to drop the pipe pressure enough to relax. When the pipes are resonant to that action it can continue until the pressure energy is dissipated or the resonance disrupted. In the case of the dissolved gases, this is a very problematic case that is nearly impossible to correct and is generally characterized by specific thermal activity i.e. certain temperature variations. So persons complain that in the spring or in the fall this just seems to begin out of nowhere.

    The latter case is the one of greatest interest to energy researchers because it demonstrates a means to extract kinetic energy from the thermal environment. Anyone that has experienced this first hand will recognize that the energy exchange is huge, causing vibrations that can literally move wooded floors visually (over 1/2" that I have personally witnessed) along with the hundreds of pounds of weight on those floors including me weighing it at about 245 pounds. So where does all this energy come from? It is usually gravitational potential energy stored in the city water tank as water pressure. When the thermal conditions are just right, gases in the water can decompress changing the volume of the water and increasing the pressure. This event sends a small wave back to the source just like water hammer, but not quite as violently. As the wave energy moves back, the pressure drops and more gas is released out of the water (like opening a soda bottle) and once this occurs you now have 'air' in your line. The wave moves to the city storage and is again reflected back (in reality it generally reflects back off the water meter or a TEE connection somewhere) to the place where the decompression occurred. If the pressure, temperature (often controlled by a water heater on the system) and pipe flexibility is just right, the gases will compress and cause a rapid pressure drop. This creates a true water hammer just as if someone has shut off the valve. This event can build in resonance to such an extent that you think it will tear the house apart. In this case the temperature must change or the gases must be removed. I have witnessed such a violent case of this that even with all the pipes flowing in the house the resonance continued - an extreme case, but it gives an idea as to how much energy is involved in this process.

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  • Vickers
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    Originally posted by mrbreau View Post
    Link; YouTube - FUELLESS HEATER NO FUEL NO GAS NO WOOD NO GREEN HOUSE GASES

    Here is a start to a neat search. It is about four or five years old but gaining ground. This guy decided to capitalize on the water hammer and has now produced and sold a few systems. FWIW

    Sorry! I know this is off topic but the answer has to be presented where the question was asked. Right?

    Warren
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    hey. i seen that five years ago as well? do u wanna help me improve on that?

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  • mrbreau
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    Waterhammer energy

    Link; YouTube - FUELLESS HEATER NO FUEL NO GAS NO WOOD NO GREEN HOUSE GASES

    Here is a start to a neat search. It is about four or five years old but gaining ground. This guy decided to capitalize on the water hammer and has now produced and sold a few systems. FWIW

    Sorry! I know this is off topic but the answer has to be presented where the question was asked. Right?

    Warren
    ..

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  • Vickers
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    Ok. brother..... crystal diode.

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  • david lambright
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    vick

    Originally posted by Vickers View Post
    hey dave, My crazy paranoid uncle will delete this post tomorrow but anyway.. I owe u an explanation for what u got there... I'll do u a trade off. U a plumber. Tell me y a good water hammer does not stop. no input .no air leak. that annoying noise just keeps going regardless of physics. There a million ways to fix it but no ways to take advantage of it. Anyway bro. I built a few contraptions to utilize the hammer but they failed badly.Give me a heads up on the hammer, or at least an idea ..and i will tell u the missing component u need for your device. lol. i tell u anyway regardless. just that u the only plumber i know.
    water does not compress easily....water hammer can be caused by this...an air "bladder" or water hammer arrest-er [a way to trap a small volume of air in the system] can help...the other thing to try would be is anywhere a pipe goes through wood, make sure that the pipe is isolated from the wood...the pipe should not move around much. ..we used felt isolators in the past, the new style is plastic...i might suggest for a retro fit using felt or heavy cloth to isolate the pipe from the wood...this i would try first....there are other factors that are unknown ..the kind of pipe...house,apartment, mansion etc....well or domestic supply.......let me know if this helps......today is SATURDAY.....good videos for sure tonight......david.....i saw a video about an inventor who used somethinglike that...cant remember his name
    Last edited by david lambright; 06-05-2010, 01:40 PM.

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  • Vickers
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    hey dave, My crazy paranoid uncle will delete this post tomorrow but anyway.. I owe u an explanation for what u got there... I'll do u a trade off. U a plumber. Tell me y a good water hammer does not stop. no input .no air leak. that annoying noise just keeps going regardless of physics. There a million ways to fix it but no ways to take advantage of it. Anyway bro. I built a few contraptions to utilize the hammer but they failed badly.Give me a heads up on the hammer, or at least an idea ..and i will tell u the missing component u need for your device. lol. i tell u anyway regardless. just that u the only plumber i know.

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  • david lambright
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    hmmmm

    Originally posted by SuperCaviTationIstic View Post
    Maybe someone should eat some psychadelics and tell you what's going on around it......
    Just kidding.....





    Or maybe not
    i thought about that!...PM me and i will tell you what some people see

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  • david lambright
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    you can energize the device after assembly...a compass will tell you when you have lock ...the mating surfaces need to be semi smooth ... leave the zinc on...energize it upside down first...then turn it over and try it just a thought...david

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  • SuperCaviTationIstic
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    Maybe someone should eat some psychadelics and tell you what's going on around it......
    Just kidding.....





    Or maybe not

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  • david lambright
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    link

    Originally posted by david lambright View Post
    is there a link?....
    alink to gustavs work

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  • david lambright
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    thought..

    after i energized my device i turned the rotor over...try that......the schlieren method is tricky....at the focal point is where the filter must be check out ians new rig..... to ian....my last video is better........david

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  • junglelord
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    David Thomson has possibly found gravity waves via a magnetic scalar detector. Possibly better defined as longitudinal waves (as Dollard explains).

    Magnetic Scalar Waves

    I did not view all 22 pages, so sorry if this is a repeat.

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