Joulethief SEC exciter and variants

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi slider, thanks for sharing the vid and the good design geometry exciter.
I'm winding a film container, which has similar dimensions to the pill bottle.
I was able to scavenge 3 small motors from a broken dvd player.
I'm using the magnet wire from a RF-310T, it looks like at least 36 gauge or smaller.
Takes awhile to wind such fine gauge wire. Then i figure I'll use 18 gauge wire for the primary at twice the diameter as you have shown.
What gauge bell wire did you use.
peace love light
tyson

[jimboot]

forgot I had one of these in stored in the roof that my wife bought over 30 years ago. Plugged it in and it still works. Creates plasma. Built in the 1930s.
think I'll have a go at hooking some low volts and a transitor to it

[jimboot]

not sure what gas is in these haider tubes but Im getting some very cool plasmas effects off my existing rig on them.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi jim, the one your holding looks like a violet ray tube.
peace love light
tyson

[Slider2732]

Dr. Jim now ? hehe Wow, I thought it was a 19th century medical kit. Wonderful device !
So, do those tubes give different output effects ? and what does the dial do ?
The fact that they do all that off your own rig must have made for a huge grin

Tyson, this wire is 22 gauge. 18 gauge may show that just 1 turn will work well. RF-310T wire is ideal, those Mabuchi's are in everything and if your tower goes well you may find yourself walking around the house looking for gear that could make donations to a good cause lol ! One tower will probably take 2 motors to complete. If you get stuck opening the motors, you can use pliers to prise the little tabs out from the casing, then the base pops off. Use the pliers to snap away the wire connections piece and also remove the plastic spacers. The central shaft should push through with some gently applied plier force, enabling the rotor to merely spin as you wind. The wire can catch slightly on the stators and won't break the insulation of the wire. Best motors for winding with are those with tall stator plates, the thinner they are the more difficult the tumbling is. I've wound dozens of magnetic actuators for micro R/C aircraft and have a high regard for such motors.
I like the pill bottles because when the label is peeled away the glue residue seems ideal to be both a fixative of the coil windings and yet gives some flexibility for the trailing winding thumb to push the winds closer as you go.

I'm now winding my third, after a multi gauge wind second one worked out very well...it works in reverse to what may be expected, the gauge becoming slightly thicker as it goes up the tower. The plasma is strong from the cellphone charger power. That one can be seen in the video below, on the left side. The red section shows how far each Mabuchi motor tooth will go and that section is thicker gauge than the wire below, above is a grade thicker again.
The video experiment was one i've wanted to do for some time, two towers, with plasma arcing between them
My wife exclaimed "oh aren't they cute" which has gotta be about the first time Tesla coils have been regarded as cute.

YouTube - Twin plasma towers

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@ Slider2732

Thanks for posting the Walgreen wireless exciter videos. Plasma from such small towers is amazing. I will see if I can make one.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi slider, thanks for the added tips. Though I already know from making this exciter what you mean about the darn wire sticking, had it break a couple of times because of it, so had two extra splices to make in addition to the normal ones needed to splice in the other stator poles.

Not sure if all those splices caused it not to work properly.

I just used a lighter to clear off enamel and twisted the wire ends together.

I haven't been able to get it fired up as far as i can tell, using 2 turns of 18 gauge, maybe i made the primary diameter too large.

Will make more adjustments and see if i can get it to work.
peace love light
tyson

[jimboot]

@slider love the plasma you're getting. The knob on the set is just a variable resistor. I plugged it in to 240v got plasma but then got better plasma off my 4" tower rapt

[Slider2732]

Aint that the coolest validation for Slayer, your circuit working better than a commercial product !

Tyson, the ends really need to be soldered...a few seconds for the tip to burn off the enamel and be coated with solder is what's required. The lighter method works well, but still may leave blackened ends, that short the connections. A touch of solder paste on both old end and new end will secure them properly.
I hope you get it to run !

Here's another demo of a 'Walgreen'. This is 5 out of 6 poles from 2x RF-300 cassette motors as secondary, with 3 turns of 22 gauge bell wire in a pancake as primary.
Circuit is the time served C3198 transistor based one, power is from the usual Nokia cellphone charger....
Lighting a candle with the plasma

YouTube - Lighting a candle with plasma

[jimboot]

inspired by slider i pulled apart my old humax sat receiver and pulled out a cs2331. getting wireless plasma on my haider tube 19mm away from the tower. stronger wider field.

[twinbeard]

Hi All,

I have not made it through this thread all the way yet, but I did have some fun with a small magnifying transmitter driven by a joule thief, Joulini style, and an old school crystal radio last night.

Here is the video:
YouTube - Joule Thief, Magnifying Transmitter, and ye olde tyme Crystal Radio.

Battery is 2x 3.7V lithium ion cells in parallel.
FET is IRF840, heatsink cooler than the cat.
Rheostat is 500ohm ohmite, and there is a 15ohm fixed resistor in series.
JT toroid is @40 turns bifilar #34AWG & #26AWG; two full layers on a T37-2 core.
Tower primary is 3 turns of #8AWG, and the secondary is 100 or so turns of #22AWG.


Cheers,
Scott

[Slider2732]

Tickle those airwaves Scott
Thing is, I bet we've all done exactly the same when messing with these fields !
Great vid, it really showed how the effects could change.
A field effect transistor (MPF102, BF245A or something) could affect a 555 based tone and then we'd have a theramin..replacing the radio with a source tone

Good to hear of the satellite receiver reuse Jim. You might find chokes, LED's and more in that too

[totoalas]

Aint that the coolest validation for Slayer, your circuit working better than a commercial product !

Tyson, the ends really need to be soldered...a few seconds for the tip to burn off the enamel and be coated with solder is what's required. The lighter method works well, but still may leave blackened ends, that short the connections. A touch of solder paste on both old end and new end will secure them properly.
I hope you get it to run !

Here's another demo of a 'Walgreen'. This is 5 out of 6 poles from 2x RF-300 cassette motors as secondary, with 3 turns of 22 gauge bell wire in a pancake as primary.
Circuit is the time served C3198 transistor based one, power is from the usual Nokia cellphone charger....
Lighting a candle with the plasma

YouTube - Lighting a candle with plasma

Nice fire starter Slyder
Have you tried the output plasma to trigger another primary / coil
and produce more
Or try to charge a cap via av plug the cap fully carged in seconds is then shorted to the other primay coil ?????
the pancake coil of Jiffy coil will be a nice lanching pad
YouTube - Jiffy Puck Powered by the Slayer Exciter

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4999-joulethief-sec-exciter-variants-46.html#post116121

cheers

totoalas

[jimboot]

Thought you'd like to see my plasma tube. Not a euphemism
YouTube - Slayer exciter plasma tube

[jimboot]

Nice fire starter Slyder
Have you tried the output plasma to trigger another primary / coil
and produce more
Or try to charge a cap via av plug the cap fully carged in seconds is then shorted to the other primay coil ?????
the pancake coil of Jiffy coil will be a nice lanching pad
YouTube - Jiffy Puck Powered by the Slayer Exciter

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4999-joulethief-sec-exciter-variants-46.html#post116121

cheers

totoalas

Hadn't seen that before. Is that your lab? Very impressive.