Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

[Wistiti]

https://sendvid.com/vms8nid1

Just fooling around with the circuit.

Wow! nice bright light!!!
Do you use the miror circuit???

[Mwtj]

https://sendvid.com/vms8nid1

Just fooling around with the circuit.

[dragon]

Now that the creative juices are flowing.....Would it be a stretch to assume you could put "floating capacitors" somewhere between the earth and antenna to harvest enough energy to drive the HVM or possibly other work? There is obviously a considerable amount of activity between the two... I guess there is only one way to find out...

Edit; Ok, a simple test with an LED on an AV... Lots of activity along the line so I suspect it is quite possible to harvest something. My antenna line is about 5ft above a pair of solar panels I use to supplement my hot water, the metal frames are completely excited by the activity. I get nothing noticeable from a direct ground connection but the air between the ant/grd is definitely active. I would assume you could plant some ground rods along the line and connect some caps up through a fwb and small antenna's to harvest energy.

[dragon]

This reminds me of a patent Bruce sent me some time back, the Fisher patent US2143437, Radiant energy system. Fisher submerged the plates in an electrolytic solution to control and direct the flow of current. We built and tested them, they worked amazingly well although they only worked with really low levels of voltage. They also stored energy like a capacitor that could be discharged by the control plate.

I could easily get lost in the patent office.... never to be seen again....

[Wistiti]

It's remember me this device.
It's curious how the same principe come again...

[Mwtj]

Put the discharge electrodes in the middle and arrange a couple of perforated plates around the electrodes. Make two of them and put them in round cannisters.

[tswift]

https://www.google.ch/patents/US2287749

https://www.google.ch/patents/US2204564

Yes, and the Slayter patent looks like a vacuumless triode! Very interesting....

[dragon]

https://www.google.ch/patents/US2287749

https://www.google.ch/patents/US2204564

Mwtj, Thanks for sharing those, I hadn't seen them before. The Bennett patent looks like a full blown high voltage charge pump - I'll read through these today... What an excellent find !

[Mwtj]

The question I asked about the capacitance between the earth and antenna has been nagging me. The quickie test unit was an attempt to help force the answer to the surface. All I did today was ponder this simple question and create a whole bunch of drawings, test after test, only one made complete sense.

In my case, I measured 300pf between ground and antenna, I referred to it as a "cap in a cap" which sort of made sense but it wasn't right in my mind. So, if we had an antenna way up in the air ( 1000ft + ) we could tap the natural charge separation, but, because we are closer to the earth we are creating an artificial charge separation with a HV device. We're simply charging a small cap ( antenna/ground ) to high voltage to drive the circuit.

The drawing below brought it all together as to what I was seeing as I progressed through the experiments. This also shows why it would run for several seconds after it was turned off.

So, if you could increase the capacitance between the antenna and ground and charge it to an extremely high voltage you would have a large storage of energy (artificial)... I'd advise against walking under the antenna at that point... a giant bug zapper...

Anyway, look at the next drawing which is basically the Tesla radiant patent with a bit of a twist....

https://www.google.ch/patents/US2287749

https://www.google.ch/patents/US2204564

[tswift]

Anyway, look at the next drawing which is basically the Tesla radiant patent with a bit of a twist....

"Bit" of a twist? If you mean self-running is a "bit", then yes....

And yes, the way you are drawing this out I think your understanding must not be far from mine. The radiant effect in a nutshell is that the high voltage draws a reflection of energy up from the ground in response, and this reflection energy is the stuff that's fundamentally different. When put through a transformer, that's when the interesting things happen. So in your second circuit, if the spark gap and cap value are sized such that each pulse of HV will cause an output spark, then I think there is a good chance it will continue to self-run by amplifying the energy in the secondary of the transformer.

[dragon]

The question I asked about the capacitance between the earth and antenna has been nagging me. The quickie test unit was an attempt to help force the answer to the surface. All I did today was ponder this simple question and create a whole bunch of drawings, test after test, only one made complete sense.

In my case, I measured 300pf between ground and antenna, I referred to it as a "cap in a cap" which sort of made sense but it wasn't right in my mind. So, if we had an antenna way up in the air ( 1000ft + ) we could tap the natural charge separation, but, because we are closer to the earth we are creating an artificial charge separation with a HV device. We're simply charging a small cap ( antenna/ground ) to high voltage to drive the circuit.

The drawing below brought it all together as to what I was seeing as I progressed through the experiments. This also shows why it would run for several seconds after it was turned off.

So, if you could increase the capacitance between the antenna and ground and charge it to an extremely high voltage you would have a large storage of energy (artificial)... I'd advise against walking under the antenna at that point... a giant bug zapper...

Anyway, look at the next drawing which is basically the Tesla radiant patent with a bit of a twist....

[dragon]

Would like more info on this experiment if possible,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JxunfyhtFI

You hold up a schematic but its hard to tell from the video what components/wires match up to it. I want to duplicate it and learn from it. Thank you!

This was the original experiment, later I noticed the batteries were very energetic and connected a copper plate to the can and placed the plate between the batteries which was equally effective in harvesting energy without direct contact with the circuit. Have fun.... !

[tesluh]

Would like more info on this experiment if possible,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JxunfyhtFI

You hold up a schematic but its hard to tell from the video what components/wires match up to it. I want to duplicate it and learn from it. Thank you!

[dragon]

Hmmm......

How does Silver/Lead fit in?

Cheers Graham.

PS.... The vacuum that Dragon referred to seems to be getting stronger across the pond!

Think in terms of a cavity or wave guide....

[Grumage]

Hmmm......

How does Silver/Lead fit in?

Cheers Graham.

PS.... The vacuum that Dragon referred to seems to be getting stronger across the pond!