Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

[ilandtan]

Here is the crucible test for ideas regarding Tesla and Don Smith or ANY "free energy" circuits.

What is the Engineering goal required for energy to be added to the system that makes it over unity?

If you can't answer that, it is unlikely that you know what you are doing to make an over unity device.

[ilandtan]

Hi Med,

I figured this Don Smith stuff out, at least I think I do LOL.

I can tell you that the EBTC can work... but you are missing a big part.

As all of Don Smith device COULD work. The issue is you don't have the modules in these circuits that amplify energy.

There are two parts:

1. You need to have a system that operates in RF so that electrons fill the near field with plasma. This is so that you can create an output that doesn't affect the input (Lenz Law). How you do it is to commute your output to a receiving coil that is not electrically connected to the input (besides ground)

2. You need to introduce a standing wave that complements (adds to the output). This is where you use resonance from the OUTSIDE amplify your power output. How you do that is excite a mass that produces magnet flux when resonating. Think about that.

You view the EBTC as a capacitor, but at resonance of the plates... something else happens preferably if you have a mass vibrating to that same frequency. Everything has to sing, in harmony.

Good Luck

[med.3012]

[Doofus Nugget]

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Don Smith Resonance Energy Crafting Systematic Index YouTube Playlist (Provides interesting video playlist to look at Don Smith's conferences): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVnA...DRHz43iO7inP-P
Electron Grounding Shunt Don Smith 1994 Video 1 Quotes YouTube Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dICbnzfY464

[wayne.ct]

I'm thinking about the experiment that had five coils oriented in the same vertical orientation where four coils make a square and one coil is in the center. I looked for a picture but was not able to find one quickly. If I remember correctly, DS said this was an OU device. One principal that the experiment CLEARLY demonstrates is inductive coupling. The accepted view is that all analysis of this experiment must necessarily proceed from the assumption that there is NO energy gain. However, if one were to IGNORE that restrictive assumption one could actually measure the energy input and energy that can be extracted from the four receivers in the four corners! One should compare this to equivalent (though actually NON equivalent) configuration represented by a 5-way multiple wound concentric coil. My untested theory is that interesting results would be forthcoming due to the velocity of light vs the radial velocity of the magnetic field. Have you noticed that in theory the magnetic field grows instantaneously at infinite velocity in step with the change in current in the "primary"? This is a serious unanswered question. At least that is the way it seems to me.

There is a post in this thread where certain statements are made that are ONLY accurate if conventional theory is accepted without doubt. If one has some doubt about the accuracy and precision of the widely accepted "truth" then you should be able to see the logic I have laid out in the paragraph above. Life has distracted my from my research in this area but I will be back when I have time to do more experiments.

If you understand what I am suggesting and would like to experiment along these lines you should consider the following suggestion(s). In the experimental apparatus referred to above the five coils had the same physical appearance with the implication that they were all tuned or tunable to the SAME resonant frequency. To keep costs as low as possible you might want to target a relatively HIGH frequency for your resonant frequency. DS recommends higher frequencies as being "good". You might want to select relatively large wire (small AWG) to reduce resistance losses as much as possible.

My own plan will also probably look something like this. The center coil will be powered by a battery so I can measure the battery voltage before and after when the power is off. The power received by the receiving coils will be rectified and used to charge four separate batteries. I will then be able to do before and after on them as well. If results look promising then battery swapping would be in order. Wish me well! I am thinking of driving the primary with a Slayer exciter.

[maxolous]

I have had the same issue, because it seems to search by payload not by meta-data. So you have to search within the body of the post,..e.g, unique words, phrases.

However, if you know the author, you can look for all the posts that author had and scan them.

Thanks for your response

[ilandtan]

Hello all, how can I locate post by number or even a page. Am having trouble doing that. Thanks.

I have had the same issue, because it seems to search by payload not by meta-data. So you have to search within the body of the post,..e.g, unique words, phrases.

However, if you know the author, you can look for all the posts that author had and scan them.

[maxolous]

Hello all, how can I locate post by number or even a page. Am having trouble doing that. Thanks.

[med.3012]

Hi Med,

Don't leave, I value your research. I'm just trying to show you that you keep on looking at a corner for answers. I will pass on my ideas about Tesla.

ilan-

the ETBC look like a black hole ... it's not easy to go out when you are in there !!! i agree with you i have to go outside it and see things in a different way .

regards

[ilandtan]

Hi Med,

Don't leave, I value your research. I'm just trying to show you that you keep on looking at a corner for answers. I will pass on my ideas about Tesla.

ilan-

[med.3012]

Med, you are not engineering any free energy in that thing. Ask yourself what you are trying to accomplish. If you had the an EBTC as big as a building, could it power a house? You think the geometry is magical. If it was, you would be able to prove it in small models. If you never find the relationship between Don Smith and Nikola Tesla, you will have little success.

sometimes i feel tired, disappointed and angry , to be honest i can't understand why my device can't take its deserved place in such over unity research as an open public system ?
do you think i have all the necessary part so it will be easy for me to build such device easily ? the theory is correct and easy to understand if you open your mind :

you can find other details here :

http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/rev...-smith-device/

it's other people responsibility to take advantage and develop this system for the benefit of all .. for now let's stop talking and don't wast your valuable time with me and show us your genius thinking ... small model was shown in the serial ETBC powering 40W bulb ( flashing ) from a tiny 3 w INPUT .. the theory now is more advanced ...
tell me what do you know about Nikola Tesla ? can you make such geometrical transformation as i did ? if you can't please try to understand ..

i am going to quit this forum with sorry !


regards

[ilandtan]

Med, you are not engineering any free energy in that thing. Ask yourself what you are trying to accomplish. If you had the an EBTC as big as a building, could it power a house? You think the geometry is magical. If it was, you would be able to prove it in small models. If you never find the relationship between Don Smith and Nikola Tesla, you will have little success.

[med.3012]

اHello ilandtan

yes.. the ETBC is very flexible device but the number of experiments always eat a lots of resources, as a result the process slow down sometimes ..
the idea is very simple .. if you remember the power triangle presented by Don Smith we have two triangles .. a small initial power induce a relatively
large electrons ( keep in mind we work in Radio frequency so the final results must be huge )

the process is a reversed Lenz's law , we don't need to cancel the law just reverse it and this is possible using two ETBC .. in a proper order as i said since there's an order how to connect the ETBC the magnetic shift is possible ..

when the magnetic poles of the secondary ETBC shift it gather the electrons situated in the capacitive side, this happen when the secondary is shorted .. power consumption remain the same, sometimes it's low then the initial consumption when the second ETBC is open..
some test show a frequency decrease if the secondary is shorted, this mean over energy without doubt , here there's another magnetic field added to the primary which slow down the frequency .

when the electrons slide this movement create another magnetic field perpendicular to the initial magnetic field, which mean if you take the power from it the system see nothing or very tiny consumption !!!

this process can be enhanced further more ..

regards

[ilandtan]

Med have you ever thought of different ways to use a EBTC?

[ilandtan]

The problem with many devices, there is no plan to get more energy then you are putting in. If you don't engineer it, why would you think it would arbitrarily happen?