Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

[AetherScientist]

I don't think it's possible to use this experiment as it's but Don Smith was referring to the importance of electrostatic induction in open systems.

Using DS experiment it's possible to charge a 1KV capacitor with an AV plug. And you can use a thick dielectric and it works also.

[AetherScientist]

a one wire series uses only one terminal of the signal source. There is no connection
on the other terminal. The skill set is useful. The leyden jar and the DC.
yes it is DC but periodical recycling establishes periodical output of the accumulator.
DS leaves this part unclear and he goes on to show how to improve the output.
The leyden jar is one relavant example the wimshurst is another.

Depending, you can use only one wire and don't use the other or you can use both wires, combine them and produce one wire output. About the last option there are different techniques to use, not only one technique.

[AetherScientist]

1- high voltage, more voltage more power to attract ambient electrons
2- open systems here don't kill your dipole !
3- high frequency
4- the resonance to duplicate the power

I have seen other circuits different of Smith's ones and they use the same capacitor effect as Smith using high voltage and 50-60 cps. Smith is not the only one that has developed such technique.

In opened systems you are not killing the dipole, depending the configuration. Remember that some posts above, one friend of us told that with the AV plug you're adding load to the power source.

[AetherScientist]

i am comparing Smith system with RLC series circuit as shown by AetherScientist, DigitalM got the discussed point, in my point of view we have to use

1- high voltage, more voltage more power to attract ambient electrons
2- open systems here don't kill your dipole !
3- high frequency
4- the resonance to duplicate the power

I didn't want to compare Smith's system with RLC series. I used RLC series circuit because there is a capacitor in the same configuration as Smith's capacitor experiment. About the inductance, coil, imagine that it doesn't exist.

[med.3012]

a one wire series uses only one terminal of the signal source. There is no connection
on the other terminal. The skill set is useful.

i am comparing Smith system with RLC series circuit as shown by AetherScientist, DigitalM got the discussed point, in my point of view we have to use

1- high voltage, more voltage more power to attract ambient electrons
2- open systems here don't kill your dipole !
3- high frequency
4- the resonance to duplicate the power

[mikrovolt]

Yes RLC series circuit seem to be similar as Don Smith's capacitor experiment, but in smith system he show the capability of high voltage to attract ambient electrons from the earth, because there's a capacitor plate electrostatic induction will be part from the system, the whole system must be similar to a capacitor in one face.. in other hand his experiment show an open system at least if we see the earth ground as a separated object, in the shown RLC series circuit your circuit is still closed, anything enter your capacitor must leave so you don't have a gate to attract other electrons other than what you gave to your system, in smith experiment CAPACITOR - DIELECTRIC - CAPACITOR the last plate is subject to attract other electrons because the loop isn't closed
as you noticed the two configuration are still similar but in your configuration you use an electric current but in smith configuration we only use the voltage...

I don't think it's possible to use this experiment as it's but Don Smith was referring to the importance of electrostatic induction in open systems.

a one wire series uses only one terminal of the signal source. There is no connection
on the other terminal. The skill set is useful. The leyden jar and the DC.
yes it is DC but periodical recycling establishes periodical output of the accumulator.
DS leaves this part unclear and he goes on to show how to improve the output.
The leyden jar is one relavant example the wimshurst is another.

[DigitalM]

[VIDEO]https://youtu.be/2HCMfg96bcs?t=12m56s[/VIDEO]
So, Smith use dielectric tester in DC pulsing mode.
It must stop charging the capacitor after a couple of sparks, but we see another thing. Some resonance processes occurring in the condenser. First plate is transmitter, than second plate is receiver wich duplicate energy.
You can read about this in Tesla notes (Martin's book, p.341):

[med.3012]

Thank you med.3012 and hello again.

I was thinking about Don Smith's capacitor experiment... and I don't fully understand what it has of interesting.

I don't understand why it was so important for Smith. If we replicate that
CAPACITOR - DIELECTRIC - CAPACITOR.... AC cannot pass through?


This circuit for example is a RLC series circuit and it has the capacitor in the same configuration as Smith. So... I don't understand the difference.

Yes RLC series circuit seem to be similar as Don Smith's capacitor experiment, but in smith system he show the capability of high voltage to attract ambient electrons from the earth, because there's a capacitor plate electrostatic induction will be part from the system, the whole system must be similar to a capacitor in one face.. in other hand his experiment show an open system at least if we see the earth ground as a separated object, in the shown RLC series circuit your circuit is still closed, anything enter your capacitor must leave so you don't have a gate to attract other electrons other than what you gave to your system, in smith experiment CAPACITOR - DIELECTRIC - CAPACITOR the last plate is subject to attract other electrons because the loop isn't closed
as you noticed the two configuration are still similar but in your configuration you use an electric current but in smith configuration we only use the voltage...

I don't think it's possible to use this experiment as it's but Don Smith was referring to the importance of electrostatic induction in open systems.

[AetherScientist]

Thanks fro your contribution ! see you :-)

Thank you med.3012 and hello again.

I was thinking about Don Smith's capacitor experiment... and I don't fully understand what it has of interesting.

I don't understand why it was so important for Smith. If we replicate that
CAPACITOR - DIELECTRIC - CAPACITOR.... AC cannot pass through?


This circuit for example is a RLC series circuit and it has the capacitor in the same configuration as Smith. So... I don't understand the difference.

[med.3012]

This is very boring. Lot of people reading and not writting (no questions?, no ideas?)

I'm going to study machine learning and artificial intelligence and maybe in some days or some weeks I will come back here to see if someone has any new idea or question about all this stuff.

Thanks fro your contribution ! see you :-)

[AetherScientist]

This is very boring. Lot of people reading and not writting (no questions?, no ideas?)

I'm going to study machine learning and artificial intelligence and maybe in some days or some weeks I will come back here to see if someone has any new idea or question about all this stuff.

[AetherScientist]

There are more than 20 variations of the above circuits, as well as more advanced versions.

[AetherScientist]

Some ideas

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To prevent that the power source is under load you need to prevent that output load communicates with the power source. There are some documents that prove that there are techniques to block the communication from external load to power source.
Don Smith effects are an example of these techniques:
1. Capacitor plates + single wire
2. Double diode in the transformer output to block the low swing

I have tried many tests for different configurations, and although some techniques load the power source less, I have not found any approach that does not still draw its power from the power source and consequently load down the power source. Can you give some specific details of a basic circuit configuration that you have tested that you believe does not load down the power source?

After many years of testing, including testing various Don Smith ideas, I don't think you can trick the power source. I think if you are going to get free energy, you have to find a way to draw that extra power from somewhere other than the input power source. That extra energy still has to come from somewhere. Don Smith spoke of drawing the extra energy from the ambient, for example. Others say it may be possible to draw energy from the quantum state or from zero point energy.

[AetherScientist]

Hello AetherScientist. I have tested with the AV plug quite a bit, and it most certainly does draw power from the power source. If you are using a strong power source such as the mains and only drawing a small amount of power using the AV plug, then you might not notice it, but if you test with a signal generator and use the AV plug to charge a fairly large capacitor, you will see that the signal generator obviously is getting loaded down when charging the capacitor. If an AV plug didn't load down the power source, I would have used it to build a free energy generator a long time ago. Unfortunately that is not the case.

The same for Don Smith's multi tesla coil idea. Don Smith said that you could add as many receiver tesla coils as you wanted around one transmitter tesla coil, to draw power off the transmitter tesla coil, and the receivers would not add extra load to the tesla coil. I found in my own testing that this is not the case at all. I found that each receiver tesla coil adds more load to the transmitter tesla coil. If there is a way to get the receiver tesla coils to receive real useable power from the transmitter tesla coil and not load the transmitter tesla coil down, that is a well kept secret.

To prevent that the power source is under load you need to prevent that output load communicates with the power source. There are some documents that prove that there are techniques to block the communication from external load to power source.

Don Smith effects are an example of these techniques:
1. Capacitor plates + single wire
2. Double diode in the transformer output to block the low swing