Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

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The idea is to use an autotransformer to increase the voltage and use the live wire to charge the capacitor in the AV plug. As you know this configuration doesn't add load to the power source.

Hello AetherScientist. I have tested with the AV plug quite a bit, and it most certainly does draw power from the power source. If you are using a strong power source such as the mains and only drawing a small amount of power using the AV plug, then you might not notice it, but if you test with a signal generator and use the AV plug to charge a fairly large capacitor, you will see that the signal generator obviously is getting loaded down when charging the capacitor. If an AV plug didn't load down the power source, I would have used it to build a free energy generator a long time ago. Unfortunately that is not the case.

The same for Don Smith's multi tesla coil idea. Don Smith said that you could add as many receiver tesla coils as you wanted around one transmitter tesla coil, to draw power off the transmitter tesla coil, and the receivers would not add extra load to the tesla coil. I found in my own testing that this is not the case at all. I found that each receiver tesla coil adds more load to the transmitter tesla coil. If there is a way to get the receiver tesla coils to receive real useable power from the transmitter tesla coil and not load the transmitter tesla coil down, that is a well kept secret.

[AetherScientist]

Smith + Avramenko

The other day I came with this idea while reading about autotransformers, seeing some Don Smith'c circuits, etc..

As you know it's possible to charge a capacitor using an AV plug from the live wire from an AC system.


More voltage and more frequency makes the capacitor to charge better.

So, as trying to keep as simplest as possible this circuit, the frequency will remain at 50-60 cps.

The idea is to use an autotransformer to increase the voltage and use the live wire to charge the capacitor in the AV plug. As you know this configuration doesn't add load to the power source.

[AetherScientist]

Hey Mikey,
I'm not one to come to the forums much, however, I haven't heard anybody speak much for the replications except for the Chinese fellow who decided to disclose what him and his team did to come up with Don's system

Where can I read the information about the Chinese guys that disclosed what they came up with Smith's system?

[AetherScientist]

I have found a physics professor's explanation online that states that if we chop off the lower swing of the amplitude of a waveform and use only the top of the wave in a pulse train, the energy is supposedly infinite and will have an immeasurable output that has zero amperage. When the bottom or negative half is removed, it eliminates the loading of the source. Since it has a combination that amplifies an output, I am thinking it is automatically going to be the generation of scalar waves that makes this all happen, and, since we generate the power by battery, and pulse the power into the Earth, it is returning itself as only a negative orbiting electron flow that smashes into the positrons causing an emmision of exponential energy at the battery, and, since electrons colliding with positrons annihilate each other the energy is converted into photons which is the emmission of the plasma I am getting. I think this energy is infinite, we can make it whatever we want, depending on cap size and battery size. Then, once this has become what we need, the inverter is added with kickback diode to make the energy revert backwards into the battery, slf charging and self adjusting to the load, eliminating the necessity of heavy wires too.

Do you have the source of that information?

I knew that if you don't use the negative wire of an AC system and you only use the live wire, then you are not adding load to the source (not consuming watts).

But... there is also a technique like you describe where you use both wires but you use only the upper swing and you don't consume watts.

[AetherScientist]

Maybe it is worth beginning whith what was advised by Smith

Maybe?
That is one of the basic things to understand about Smith's system.

[DigitalM]

Maybe it is worth beginning whith what was advised by Smith

[BroMikey]

Marc explanation

Hey Mikey,
I'm not one to come to the forums much, however, I haven't heard anybody speak much for the replications except for the Chinese fellow who decided to disclose what him and his team did to come up with Don's system, so, since my system I have discovered last night isn't the same as Don's, I'm going to stop calling it his and name it. I know what it is based upon, however, it isn't Tesla's either, not Kapanadze's, and the effect is an unknown effect that happens in Don's system as well. Since there isn't a name to the effect, I'm gonna name the effect the "Tesla Wireless Charger Effect".

That's awesome Marc

I can't say for sure if anybody else has done the same, and if they do, they could post their use and wattage, etc., but, I have an electrical testing company that do all sorts of professional electrical tests, and, if I bring my device to their shop, I will see if they'd like to sip on a few brews on my dime, check out the system while I show them what it's got and how it powers things up as Science has been stating is not possible, then, maybe they can perform a battery of tests to the circuit.

Better have a box of tea leaves on hand too. A little joke.

I am afraid if they try to test anything other than the conventional output , it isn't going to be accurate, because of the scalar energy to cold electricity conversion until the energy is transformed into DC voltage. I'm not sure if they will be able to even detect voltage at the diode,..........

They probably wouldn't have a clue, you are right.

.........so, my suggestion will be to get some of those high amperage/high wattage water kettle or speed kettles that are sold for making hot water for tea, then, utilize plain old mathematics to solve how much energy is being output in watts to boil water from the energy coming from the system, then, try to figure out the idle current of the nst at 35-40 volts ac that is being used to operate the system.

Exactly, that would take a tonne of current those baby batteries
just don't have.

Since my batteries used equaled a 12 ah capability, there is limited energy the battery can output. In an ac system , to run the bulb I did, it uses 67 watts, as it is an old stoplight bulb (new in box). 67 watts/ 120v= .5583333 amps. 67 watts/12 volts = 5.5833333 amps. The input to the NST remains exactly the same as this, under load. Since the connections aren't made continuously in a loop, the system is not considered a closed system. Even if it was, the voltage isn't high enough to strike an arc in the spark gap. The energy crossing the spark gap is a plasma. When the energy becomes high enough, the plasma will start to emit photons, but, it does this when we turn the voltage up, then, if we drive it higher, it turns to an arc, then, back to plasma when it gets higher. This all seems to be related to a saturation of some sort, and it isn't easy to figure out why it does anything it is doing.

I don't know, let me think. I think the things
you describe are an in and out condition of your foundational
resonance value that you have calculated at a certain voltage and
when to change the voltage harmonics may appear?

Perhaps Eric Dollard would be able to shed some light on the situation as to exactly what is going on. I would like to say this.. The capacitors have pretty much everything to do with the circuit's load capability.

This is what we have been hearing, Yes. Eric? Let me look
for T-REX. Hey, Hello, HEY T-REX are you there? We will see.
Thanks Eric.

I have found a physics professor's explanation online that states that if we chop off the lower swing of the amplitude of a waveform and use only the top of the wave in a pulse train, the energy is supposedly infinite and will have an immeasurable output that has zero amperage.

That sounds better than my idea.

When the bottom or negative half is removed, it eliminates the loading of the source. Since it has a combination that amplifies an output, I am thinking it is automatically going to be the generation of scalar waves that makes this all happen, and, since we generate the power by battery, and pulse the power into the Earth, it is returning itself as only a negative orbiting electron flow that smashes into the positrons causing an emision of exponential energy at the battery, and, since electrons colliding with positrons annihilate each other the energy is converted into photons which is the emission of the plasma I am getting. I think this energy is infinite, we can make it whatever we want, depending on cap size and battery size. Then, once this has become what we need, the inverter is added with kickback diode to make the energy revert backwards into the battery, self charging and self adjusting to the load, eliminating the necessity of heavy wires too.

Too Much Marc Thank you Thank you now I'll have
something to reconsider. Get back to me and let me know what
you have discovered, looks like you are on a huge roll these days.

[Bob Smith]

I have found a physics professor's explanation online that states that if we chop off the lower swing of the amplitude of a waveform and use only the top of the wave in a pulse train, the energy is supposedly infinite and will have an immeasurable output that has zero amperage. When the bottom or negative half is removed, it eliminates the loading of the source.

Interesting - is this not what the Avramenko plug does to an AC sine wave? - basically turning it into a series of unidirectional pulses?
Bob

[Tvrepair]

Don's PDF

Thanks a lot : !!

[BroMikey]

Yes MED is correct

Also Marc is saying he is going to put out a more
specific set of plans that we see operating in the video.
Give Marc time, he needs time to do all of this.

I would be willing to buy a set of plans. Marc said the
plans would be very cheap. So we will see in time.

Eventually someone else will produce their own plans but
we need some place to start.

[med.3012]

Hello
I was wondering how to get this Don,s PDF that Marc was talking about. I have a lot of the components for a replication of Dons circuits.
Thanks

hello !

here you are one :

https://www.free-energy-info.com/Smith.pdf

welcome .

[Tvrepair]

Don's PDF

Hello
I was wondering how to get this Don,s PDF that Marc was talking about. I have a lot of the components for a replication of Dons circuits.
Thanks

[med.3012]

Hey Belangers,

The idea of Don Smith device isn't far from science! the problem is we learned how to study closed system but never open systems, take the E-TBC as example, in this device the magnetic field is the source power for the capacitor that oscillate as coil, so every-time you have a surplus in power when the device oscillate according your frequency, the proof about this is the computer programs Don talked about, the computer was able to see the surplus in power! so nothing is new, just using an extended of what Nikola Tesla has reached was the words of Don Smith !

[Belangers]

Hey Mikey,
I'm not one to come to the forums much, however, I haven't heard anybody speak much for the replications except for the Chinese fellow who decided to disclose what him and his team did to come up with Don's system, so, since my system I have discovered last night isn't the same as Don's, I'm going to stop calling it his and name it. I know what it is based upon, however, it isn't Tesla's either, not Kapanadze's, and the effect is an unknown effect that happens in Don's system as well. Since there isn't a name to the effect, I'm gonna name the effect the "Tesla Wireless Charger Effect". I can't say for sure if anybody else has done the same, and if they do, they could post their use and wattage, etc., but, I have an electrical testing company that do all sorts of professional electrical tests, and, if I bring my device to their shop, I will see if they'd like to sip on a few brews on my dime, check out the system while I show them what it's got and how it powers things up as Science has been stating is not possible, then, maybe they can perform a battery of tests to the circuit. I am afraid if they try to test anything other than the conventional output , it isn't going to be accurate, because of the scalar energy to cold electricity conversion until the energy is transformed into DC voltage. I'm not sure if they will be able to even detect voltage at the diode, so, my suggestion will be to get some of those high amperage/high wattage water kettle or speed kettles that are sold for making hot water for tea, then, utilize plain old mathematics to solve how much energy is being output in watts to boil water from the energy coming from the system, then, try to figure out the idle current of the nst at 35-40 volts ac that is being used to operate the system. Since my batteries used equaled a 12 ah capability, there is limited energy the battery can output. In an ac system , to run the bulb I did, it uses 67 watts, as it is an old stoplight bulb (new in box). 67 watts/ 120v= .5583333 amps. 67 watts/12 volts = 5.5833333 amps. The input to the NST remains exactly the same as this under load. Since the connections aren't made continuously in a loop, the system is not considered a closed system. Even if it was, the voltage isn't high enough to strike an arc in the spark gap. The energy crossing the spark gap is a plasma. When the energy becomes high enough, the plasma will start to emit photons, but, it does this when we turn the voltage up, then, if we drive it higher, it turns to an arc, then, back to plasma when it gets higher. This all seems to be related to a saturation of some sort, and it isn't easy to figure out why it does anything it is doing. Perhaps Eric Dollard would be able to shed some light on the situation as to exactly what is going on. I would like to say this.. The capacitors have pretty much everything to do with the circuit's load capability.

I have found a physics professor's explanation online that states that if we chop off the lower swing of the amplitude of a waveform and use only the top of the wave in a pulse train, the energy is supposedly infinite and will have an immeasurable output that has zero amperage. When the bottom or negative half is removed, it eliminates the loading of the source. Since it has a combination that amplifies an output, I am thinking it is automatically going to be the generation of scalar waves that makes this all happen, and, since we generate the power by battery, and pulse the power into the Earth, it is returning itself as only a negative orbiting electron flow that smashes into the positrons causing an emmision of exponential energy at the battery, and, since electrons colliding with positrons annihilate each other the energy is converted into photons which is the emmission of the plasma I am getting. I think this energy is infinite, we can make it whatever we want, depending on cap size and battery size. Then, once this has become what we need, the inverter is added with kickback diode to make the energy revert backwards into the battery, slf charging and self adjusting to the load, eliminating the necessity of heavy wires too.

[Belangers]

Well, I'm still working no positive results yet.

There's a big dirty secret about Don's generator... The field generated by the device has absolutely nothing to do with anything but Tesla's Phase Conjugation. Please do not waste your time with anything but studying how Tesla did this. Once you understand and read his Colorado Springs Notes, you'll figure it out.

Let's put it this way, it operates by using scalar waves, however, to get these waves to change their form into electricity, the field needs to be pulsed , then, retrieved as many mirrored fields at it's output. It is completely unecessary to use anything other than the nst, a ground, diode, resistor, and, a cap bank to make this work, as well as either an inverter circuit to either drive a transformer, or, to plug into.

The battery doesn't need to be connected on Don's system. I have the same effect here, with a much more minimal system, but, the key is the capacitor sizes. This system may not even fully charge a capacitor, however, if we connect to the, so, if you connect these waves to the resistor, you basically have your transmitter that sends the waves to the battery, but, they need to connect to a capacitor bank the correct way. If a diode is not used, nothing will happen. This is like the valve of the Moray system. The capacitors store the dam full of electricity at a very high amperage and the output receives a return amount of amperage as unseen before at anytime.

I have a perfect working version and if I wasn't so broke from spending on my experiments, I would go to the energy convention in June and speak about this! In due time, I will start to understand more and more of the works by others. I have back engineered Kapanadze's device, however, I was at a partial lighting of the bulbs, but, I wasn't getting more out than in. His system does the same thing but needs a spark. Don's needs no arc at all to work, in fact it doesn't even need the nst turned up past 35 or 40 volts of input, and, it may have .17 -.18 amps at 34 volts , however, the modified sinewave plays a role, but, the role can destroy your nst so please stay away from the modified sinewave inverters, they are too dirty and heat the devil out of the transformer and kill them pure sinewave is the way to go

Marc