Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

[DigitalM]

Happy Birthday, Mr. Tesla!

[tswift]

Another suggestion to improve output would be to try moving the storage capacitor physically closer to the first tesla coil stage (the step-up stage). If it's close it will begin to affect coil tuning and if it's REALLY close it might arc either from the coil to the cap or internally within the cap case. I am also interested in other details about your setup and configuration if you would be able to provide them.

[sinergicus]

Hello to all,

thanks for hard work and good information posted in this thread.

I was able to replicate Don's basic design using NST( 37Khz at 6kV) the only problem I have is that I am at a limit with spark gap. If gap is bigger a bit I get very useful output, but the problem is after a 15-30 minutes run the NST would shut down.

Now running it at a limited spark gap power and getting about 200W, if I try to get more adjusting spark gap distance it just shuts down.

Any ideas of how to fool the NST? I tried wih grounding and without grounding it my result are same.

Anybody having same experiences?

Thanks for sharing.

Hey bugaian ...I am from the same country like you ..I understand,you live in Brasov ;I live in Zalau judetul Salaj...if you see this post please let me know how can I contact you ..I wish more details about your setup...You have used resonance to obtain useful output? How you have tuned your setup?

When you have load at output the resonance didn,t go out of tune? How much input /output you have? ....I have an old electronics friend ..he tried don smith stuff without succes...but maybe he can help you with advices why your nst shutting down..maybe going warm and some protection inside shuting of automaticallyyour nst... did you tried to make homemade nst using FBT transformers and ZVS circuit? FBT can suport high voltages and have no protection to shut off..

Regards Mihai

[med.3012]

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you know it's possible for a separated plate to conduct the electricity the question now is how the capacitor charged ?

how for a separated plates to carry electrical charge? there's a process let the capacitor to duplicate the electrical charges from one plate to another .. this process is caused by the induced electric field and not the magnetic field... Maxwell noticed the presence of magnetic field in the periphery of the capacitor under AC current and he gave us his famous displacement current equation to solve the problem of Ampere law since the circuit is open ...

i have a new theory about displacement current the new concept to show it's the induced electric field which cause the capacitor to charge itself under AC mode... here you are the video :

https://youtu.be/PyyTv2r1xlY

physically the solution is pretty simple because the induced electric field find itself in a critical situation because it can't circulate inside a conducting plate, any conductor will produce a reversed electric field cancel the first main field that try to penetrate inside it but the situation in the rotating closed loop electric field is relatively complex...

this field have to circulate in a closed loop but with the presence of conducting plates it will change this to form two closed loop instead of one, the two closed loop are connected together ... to understand this please see this small video about Quantum Entanglement & Spooky Action at a Distance :

https://youtu.be/ZuvK-od647c

the capacitor use the ability of electrons to spin up or down to charge each side with an opposite charge compared the other side and this what allow this simple device to carry electrical charges in AC current, each side can see the situation of other side and transmit this hidden information faster than light ... and this is the real complexity ...

the shape of induced electrical field in a capacitor is complicated also, my theory about the new displacement current isn't complete... but i can see it as a good physical replacement of the old displacement current theory.

there's other information can be given .....

[med.3012]

med:
I have never heard of Tesla mentioning anything concerning electrons, electron spin, and much less quantum anything.
Please quote him on that, if you can. As those terms you mentioned do NOT sound like Tesla, to me. And I doubt that Tesla would agree with those terms, and ideas. People talk about many things, some of which they don't even understand. Such as concerning the Aether, and how to tap it to obtain use able power therefrom.
In any case, we are all here to learn. Or to unlearn, what we are being taught in error, to this day.

Unfortunately the most interesting device is the less understood , i am talking about the CAPACITOR where you have two separated conducting plate by a dielectric, in AC the capacitor conduct the electricity even there's no real current flow, in other words the two plate are separated physically but still conduct the electricity as if there's another hidden phenomena that still not fully covered..

displacement current By Maxwell is a mathematical solution which is far from the reality of physic and this is another problem where we have to use the mathematics to describe a very complicated phenomena, displacement current give the correct answer but in has some flaws more details is here :

http://www.asps.it/miller00.pdf

i will post more ...

[Nick_Z]

med:
I have never heard of Tesla mentioning anything concerning electrons, electron spin, and much less quantum anything.
Please quote him on that, if you can. As those terms you mentioned do NOT sound like Tesla, to me. And I doubt that Tesla would agree with those terms, and ideas. People talk about many things, some of which they don't even understand. Such as concerning the Aether, and how to tap it to obtain use able power therefrom.
In any case, we are all here to learn. Or to unlearn, what we are being taught in error, to this day.

[med.3012]

ALL information in the presented book about OU devices, but it is reshuffled and it makes double sense. In other case this book wouldn't reach us! I advise to begin with page 119. It is necessary to repeat experiments Tesla one by one.
Do you want to start together?

i wasn't able to see that book, do you have another download link ?

[DigitalM]

ALL information in the presented book about OU devices, but it is reshuffled and it makes double sense. In other case this book wouldn't reach us! I advise to begin with page 119. It is necessary to repeat experiments Tesla one by one.
Do you want to start together?

[med.3012]

"i agree Smith system depend on Tesla and Maxwell works, it's all about electrostatic induction as explained by Mr Tesla, my research is depending on a very small amount of information given by Tesla regarding his famous Bifilar coil"
end quote.

If you agree that what you mentioned above is similar to what Tesla had mentioned, please quote where Tesla talks about "electrons" or "electron spin".

As far as I understand, Tesla wrote about tapping the Aether, not about spinning electrons, or moving electrons. Not the same thing...

my work depend on Tesla and Maxwell and finally Donald Smith, the three together but i don't forget Tom Bearden ... , i agree Tesla wrote about tapping the Aether energy, Don Smith named it background energy but a lots of us name it ZERO POINT ENERGY or ZPE, as you see each name has a special story behind it even though they all talk about the same thing, there's a power around us that can be taped and converted to do useful work ..


For Tesla to do his experiments he actually need to charge a capacitor and discharge it in his system and this involve the use of a moving charges or electricity...., i can reply you regarding the process discussed, the idea of electron spin came after Tesla , and its known in Quantum Mechanical .

[Solarlab]

Faraday did a series of experiments on our subject, but not explained to the ongoing processes. Maxwell and Tesla continued this work in theory and practice, respectively. To replicate Smith's devices, we must turn to the notes of Tesla and Maxwell, as advised Smith.
Tesla Bible @ EX.UA

DigitalM - Thank You very much for the book link; one that I have not seen before but, IMHO, an extremely valuable reference and an "easy read!"

With respect to your "troll" comment above; maybe a bit harsh since these fellows (especially Ruslan) through their dedication, hard work, expenditure and very long hours have demonstrated that some of these [OU] techniques can produce results. Even though they may be a "bit short," or hesitant for whatever reasons, on presenting details or theories; their contributions I find to be the primary game changer - conclusive demonstrated evidence that "it" can actually be accomplished!

Anyway, thanks again and have a great week...

[Nick_Z]

"i agree Smith system depend on Tesla and Maxwell works, it's all about electrostatic induction as explained by Mr Tesla, my research is depending on a very small amount of information given by Tesla regarding his famous Bifilar coil"
end quote.

If you agree that what you mentioned above is similar to what Tesla had mentioned, please quote where Tesla talks about "electrons" or "electron spin".

As far as I understand, Tesla wrote about tapping the Aether, not about spinning electrons, or moving electrons. Not the same thing...

[med.3012]

Faraday did a series of experiments on our subject, but not explained to the ongoing processes. Maxwell and Tesla continued this work in theory and practice, respectively. To replicate Smith's devices, we must turn to the notes of Tesla and Maxwell, as advised Smith.
Tesla Bible @ EX.UA

i agree Smith system depend on Tesla and Maxwell works, it's all about electrostatic induction as explained by Mr Tesla, my research is depending on a very small amount of information given by Tesla regarding his famous Bifilar coil :



Tesla said : My present invention has for its object to avoid the employment of
condensers which are expensive, cumbersome and difficult to maintain in
perfect condition, and to so construct the coils themselves as to accomplish
the same ultimate object.



constructing the coil while you have a capacitor built in is something beyond the conventional electrical science, it has a strong relation with quantum mechanic, negative energy ( Dirac ) , the electric current as we know it will be absent and we only have electrons spin as suggested by Don Smith .. this is actually what will happen in the extended Tesla Bifilar coil or shortly the ETBC.

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Mohamed.pdf ( this document need an update .. )

the ETBC is a special capacitor coil but the role of either the capacitor or the coil is hidden in the electron spinning behavior, this mean if the electrons spin CW they actually produce magnetic field (coil) ... but if they spin CCW they produce electric field ( capacitor )

because the coil and the capacitor come in one state or device they must meet each other in just one point .. ! in this point Maxwell displacement current simply disappear and changed by electron spin changing mechanism; the electrons must relax to change the spin direction , the ETBC provide an excellent geometry for this special moment because each side can be either CW OR CCW according your view side ... in front of your eyes the CW side will appear as CCW from behind so it's possible to bypass the displacement current just by changing the electrons spin direction and this appear naturally ... because of this you have twice the frequency compared normal parallel LC circuit...

it's also this moment when we could achieve useful electric energy from the virtual reactive current ... this mean the more reactive current you give to the ETBC the power power you have, in practice it's not easy to supply a good reactive current ( thousands of ampere reactive ) unless you have the resonance or a special mechanism to optimize the process of reactive current production ..

the most new system is the serial ETBC ( the idea is patented now free for no commercial purpose ) in this arrangement you need a ferromagnetic core and you need several ETBC, the more the better, all the extended Tesla Bifilar coils have to be identical , the first experiments show a good amount of power but still under unity to make a self power unit ...

back to the reactive electric current we have to notice the use of heat sink in Don Smith commercial device shows in his 1996 video, heat sink mean you have a very strong electric current created from miliwatts source of power..., this is possible only when you have the resonance maintained, the system only convert reactive current to active and provide real power since the electrons when changing the spin they meet the condition CCW + CW together at the same time ... this is the secret to achieve real power from unreal reactive.

[DigitalM]

Faraday did a series of experiments on our subject, but not explained to the ongoing processes. Maxwell and Tesla continued this work in theory and practice, respectively. To replicate Smith's devices, we must turn to the notes of Tesla and Maxwell, as advised Smith.
Tesla Bible @ EX.UA

[med.3012]

Ruslan=Akula=Poma=CP=Kablauhov are russian trolls. Do you know this?

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You must to work with writings of Tesla, Smith, Hertz, Kapanadze, Biden, Bedini, Mark, Hubbard, Grey, Keely.

Thanks for your suggestion, about me i can't judge something i didn't tested personally, maybe there's something hidden there ! the reason about this until now there's no significant progress about Don Smith device... even there's some claims from here and there but i really don't know .. the story of OU devices must be written together , we need to help each other with replication or comments and advice .

[DigitalM]

Ruslan=Akula=Poma=CP=Kablauhov are russian trolls. Do you know this?

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You must to work with writings of Tesla, Smith, Hertz, Kapanadze, Biden, Bedini, Mark, Hubbard, Grey, Keely.