Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

[med.3012]

Dear All,

Here is someone "wasting time" watch fully before commenting please!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kde3gJK9x0I

Now Don said he had an infinity battery system too...THIS IS SIXTY MINUTES !!!

Thanks very much for wasting my time , Yes Don Smith talked about a small box that could generate high voltage and high current almost from tiny voltage, in one video he talked about a kind of airplane that run on his system !!

at the time when we have a lots of disagreements some people there are making some scientific miracles ...

[Gedfire]

Dear All,

Here is someone "wasting time" watch fully before commenting please!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kde3gJK9x0I

Now Don said he had an infinity battery system too...THIS IS SIXTY MINUTES !!!

[tswift]

Antenna Measurements

Ok, here's what I found putting the scope on the end of the antenna. I was a little hesitant to try it for fear of frying my scope, but it worked OK and no scope damage. The open-circuit waveform with just the scope probe attached was, as expected, totally dominated by 60 Hz power line coupling. So much that it nearly saturated the scope input and really no other frequencies can be discerned, just a nice 60 Hz sine wave with a little flattopping.

However, what we are interested in with these experiments is not voltage but current. The 1/4 wave resonance of the antenna should be a voltage node but a current antinode, so it doesn't really show up if you use a spectrum analyzer directly on the antenna open-circuit. What you see instead is the half-wave resonance at double the quarter-wave frequency, as serendipitor described. If only there was some nifty simple passive device that converts current to voltage.... Oh wait, there is! By ohm's law, a current through a resistor causes a voltage drop across the resistor. So I put a 1K resistor between the antenna and ground and measured the voltage drop across the resistor. The main signal from the antenna is very apparent but at 1.44 MHz. Somehow the antenna is ringing at its third harmonic (3/4 wave resonance) so the true 1/4 wave frequency would be 480 KHz. So my antenna length is about right. In spite of the harmonic, there should still be significant energy at the 480 KHz fundamental frequency that the coil set is designed for, so I am proceeding as planned. If this fails I may have to build a new set of coils tuned for 1.44 MHz, which would be significantly smaller. But hopefully the atmospheric energy we're after doesn't really care, I'll find out soon enough.

I also took a set of measurements using the function generator as serendipitor described. This involved just hooking up the hot lead of the function generator to the end feedpoint of the antenna and putting the scope probe at the same point. Most function generators have an output impedance of 50 ohms and apparently this is enough to shift the frequency some, as I measured a very distinct dip in the amplitude of the voltage waveform at a center frequency of 533 KHz, with the 3 dB points at 502 and 583 KHz. My function generator goes up to about 2 MHz, so I tuned up and found the third harmonic at 1657 KHz with a similar dip in impedance.

[Gedfire]

Imho

After giving it some thought, I wouldn't be doing you a favour.

There is no point feeding a delusion.

Unfortunately it is a dead end. It cost me a large chunk of my time.

As you will appreciate time is precious.


My purpose here is to provide a huge time saving solution that will better humanity.

I feel I would be doing something negative providing anything that will waste time.

Too much time has been wasted already!

Don's radiant energy chapter is finished but the next radiant energy chapter continues.

SOUNDICEUK : I am quite fine with wasting my time.I have a lot of it.Whether or not your release the material is really independent of the how time I have to waste.

Patrick Kelly's book is massive.Clearly one would not be in their right mind to try everything.

Most of Don's work I take as entermainment and grounds for research and possible implementation (like a good or bad book).When I read his work I can always fact check aspects of his work.I repeat.Please do not be concerned about me wasting time.Maybe others but not me.I do have a part of the Don Smith's Library.Interesting reading but certainly not time wasting for me at all.

But then again its your material so its your choice whether to release it or not.

I do not agree with you that you releasing whatever bits and pieces you have left will be feeding a delusion.Far from it, it has allowed me to learn many other things.Like making a highly efficient transformer or generators like you said.

If you have a change of heart, you can pm or send to a dropbox if you simply don't want to endanger the masses.

Thanks in advance.

[Mwtj]

Used my frequency counter and function generator. Now i can actually see the frequency change when turning the caps and tune the coils.

[tswift]

Yes, L1 and L2 will affect each other. HOW MUCH they affect each other depends primarily on the coupling coefficient between them, how much of the magnetic flux from one is intercepted by the other. The way Paul's pictures showed and the way I have built with L2 much smaller than L1, I measured a coupling coefficient several posts back of something like 0.2. Most Tesla coils are built with coupling coefficients in the range 0.05 - 0.2 or so. As the coupling coefficient goes up, the more the two resonant circuits affect each other, even if the primary and secondary circuits are tuned identically individually, first the resonant peak broadens and eventually splits into two peaks at a high enough coupling (google "critical coupling").

To make a long story short, if the coupling is loose enough this shouldn't be a big problem. Keep the coupling loose and you can tune the two circuits individually.

[Mwtj]

* I wonder about the antenna, which is approximately 1/4 wavelength at 500kHz, but will vary widely depending on height and soil conditions. An antenna modeling program shows the impedance of the antenna to be very low, just a few ohms. I don't know enough about the PPV, but I would hope that there is isolation from the very high impedance of L1 and C2 in resonance. Since this is apparently a spiky, nonlinear circuit, it is perhaps not relevant to match to the antenna in a conventional E/M sense. Also, my experience with RF transformers like this would say that C3 is probably extra. One side of the L1-L2 couple affects the other such that the whole is resonated with C2, and C3 would so strongly depend on C2 that it could be eliminated. The transformer ought to be ringing more or less continuously, so is operating in the conventional linear domain, as far as I can tell.

Measuring the resonance frequency i noticed something that is said here that the L2 depends on C2. C3 throws off L1 frequency. Could be my method of measuring

[med.3012]

Don't get your knickers in a twist!

Lots of bold claims from Don, Zilano and a few others. But no proof after all these years!

I'm happy to see a circuit diagram with component values that has been replicated.

Unless someone can show us otherwise, it is merely a high efficiency lighting circuit.

Self running I have yet to see, although it has been claimed.

i am sorry because i am not a native English speaker, so i use the translator to understand something like this :


don't get your knickers in a twist
when one gets upset or crazy over something most people think is unimportant
Sally don't get your knickers in a twist over that split milk on the floor, silly Sally!

the best way to solve a complicated problem is fractionation, without a vision it's nearly impossible to replicate such system ! even it can be done almost in any part of the world ..

[soundiceuk]

Don't get your knickers in a twist!

Lots of bold claims from Don, Zilano and a few others. But no proof after all these years!

I'm happy to see a circuit diagram with component values that has been replicated.

Unless someone can show us otherwise, it is merely a high efficiency lighting circuit.

Self running I have yet to see, although it has been claimed.

[med.3012]

Unfortunately it is a dead end.

it's a dead end in your side .. the problem with Don Smith resonance induction system is the misunderstanding, there's some conditions that must be accomplished in order to say it's a dead end ...

[tswift]

OK, my antenna is up. It's about 500 feet of 22 AWG bare copper wire, supported on PVC pipes strapped to existing fence posts. It varies in height from about 12 to 20 feet above the ground. I had started off with using the 30 gauge wire, but ran into several difficulties. First, it wants to kink very easily. Even if you pay it out by turning the spool, it still has some residual coil and wants to coil back up if there is any slack. As you're pulling the long wire through multiple supports, it's not practical to just yank on the far end, you'll break the wire. You have to work a little slack through a few feet at a time unless you had a bunch of helpers, one on each pole. Second, 30 gauge wire is very fragile. You can break it very easily if you're not extremely careful when pulling it. On my first attempt I wasn't able to get done in one day, so some of the wire was still close to the ground and everything imaginable kept happening to it. I almost stumbled into it several times myself it's so hard to see, and several other people actually did and broke it.

Since the outfit I bought the wire from has a $25 minimum order, I bought two spools of wire, one 30 and 22 AWG. I decided on 22 gauge because a one pound spool is just about 500 feet long, so I'd have a backup plan in case the 30 gauge didn't work out. Sure enough, it took almost the entire spool but I had just a little left. The 22 gauge is much stronger, I'm sure you could break it by pulling on it but you'd really have to try hard, it's not so easy to damage accidentally the way the 30 gauge is.

Antenna tests and measurements coming soon!

[soundiceuk]

After giving it some thought, I wouldn't be doing you a favour.

There is no point feeding a delusion.

Unfortunately it is a dead end. It cost me a large chunk of my time.

As you will appreciate time is precious.


My purpose here is to provide a huge time saving solution that will better humanity.

I feel I would be doing something negative providing anything that will waste time.

Too much time has been wasted already!

Don's radiant energy chapter is finished but the next radiant energy chapter continues.

[Gedfire]

Don Smith Extras Outtakes

Hey your avatar suits you!

I'll see what I can do.

SOUNDICEUK,

About my avatar indeed.Someone tossed me that bone sometime ago.Now I am ready for more or rather the T-Bone steak with less bone! Anymore Don Smith material you have would be ver very welcome!

Feed us please!

[med.3012]

Hey your avatar suits you!

I'll see what I can do.

everything about Don Smith will be great ..

[soundiceuk]

Hey your avatar suits you!

I'll see what I can do.