High Voltage from Thin Air?

[Shamus]

Wow!

YouTube - Running Wireless Exciter & Charging Power Capacitor

Well, you know Doc, after a demonstration like that you had to know that someone was going to ask what the power consumption on the input side of exciter #1 was. So here I am, asking. I think I have a pretty good idea of the power on the output side.

[DrStiffler]

Well, you know Doc, after a demonstration like that you had to know that someone was going to ask what the power consumption on the input side of exciter #1 was. So here I am, asking. I think I have a pretty good idea of the power on the output side.

@Shamus
What difference does it make? No load or three loads, the input is the same. I am not the only person to have stated this.

[Shamus]

OK, message received loud and clear. Now I'm going to have to build three of these.

[Lidmotor]

Dr. Stiffler's Wireless SEC/charger---my replication

Here my replication of what Doc just showed. I am using the older SEC 15 but it still worked just like he said. I did not use as big a charging cap just to show the charge rate. The cap was a 100volt / 6800uf. I could not get it up to the voltage that I wanted but it did charge up while the SEC was running----wirlessly. Source was 12volts @ 22mA. at the primary SEC.


YouTube - Dr Stiffler wireless SEC --- My replication

Lidmotor

[Armagdn03]

@Armagdn03

Many, many things impact what is required and what you say is a good part of it. With component loss diodes, transistor etc., it bring you to around a CEC of 2.9 for sustainably. Anything over 2.9 will be a great winner.

Although if we could talk about say KW systems the so called lost (Heat) can be used as a secondary investment.

Too nit pick.....(apologies ahead of time)

It seems funny to me that words like "loss" even get thrown around in this arena. Consider for a second the EM spectrum, IR or heat is none other than an un-accounted for transducer mechanism. Energy = energy, our only problem is capture...maybe. We start all systems at cop =1. we only have up to go from there....

Theoretically, if all systems = 1, entropy is...well... I dare not say it.

[mudwump]

Time studies for discharge and charging (cont)

I have 8 2.7 volt 20 farad caps in series. Actually I have two sets of these. The set I use for running the SEC and one for charging. The set I am running I charge up to 19.6 volts with an external power source. I disconnect the power source and then use the caps to power my SEC15-3. It takes 46 seconds to discharge to my lower limit of 17.6 volts. With this 2 volt range, I can not detect a change in brightness in a bank of 48 LEDs on a receiver tower. So that is my starting point.

The second bank of caps I start at 17.6 volts. These are placed on the receiver tower similar to the Doc's latest video. I attach the DMM and watch the charging and I time it. So far, it is much slower than 46 seconds, so much so that I have not completed a full charge cycle, but they are slowly charging. In my mind, I have to have a charge rate faster than the discharge rate in order to think I can get a self runner. If I can achieve a faster charge rate than discharge then I will take the time to automate the circuit.

My next step is to experiment with the receiver side load configuration to see if I can optimize and balance the load so that I can get a faster charge rate on the caps.

My experiment continues. The results tonight were not spectacular, but I was able to charge about half the speed of the discharge rate. So I am doing a better job at adjusting the loading of the caps.

Lidmotor - I do not undertand this yet, but I was able to get a better charge off the second tower without the SEC similar to what you did in the video. I had no problem getting up to 24 volts on the cap array.

Just for kicks, since adding an additional receiver does not appear to add an additional draw on the transmitter, I am going to see if I can get additional energy coherence by combining the efforts of two towers. If a black hole begins over Utah and gobbles up the earth, I apologize ahead of time.

Best regards,
Steve

[DrStiffler]

Too nit pick.....(apologies ahead of time)

It seems funny to me that words like "loss" even get thrown around in this arena. Consider for a second the EM spectrum, IR or heat is none other than an un-accounted for transducer mechanism. Energy = energy, our only problem is capture...maybe. We start all systems at cop =1. we only have up to go from there....

Theoretically, if all systems = 1, entropy is...well... I dare not say it.

@Armagdn03

It's a fine line on just how one can explain something to someone else. As I have stated a number of times; 'People believe what they already know'. If someone is raised thinking a certain color is 'Blue' and a person comes along and tells them they are wrong and it is really Red, what would be the expected response?

This no longer depends on the credibility or amount of respect one might have for the supplier of the new norm. Maybe there was a real period in time where this carried some weight in favor of the change, yet now even collaborating colleagues are suspicious and border line envious of each other.

Society as a whole IMHO needs to now be spoon fed in small amounts and in terms they relate to and nothing outside of their preconceived sum of comfort.

I have a few papers from people I deeply respect where it is stated that 'Heat' into the environment is lost forever, just trickles off into space never to warm again. How do you change or even suggest to emanate tenured and otherwise extremely qualified professors that they are deeply wrong?

I have learned to play the game, slowly, no real shocks, leave an opening so the student can refute and not dump his/her obtained knowledge all at once. Problem is this may take more time than is allotted to one life span of a teacher and in turn may not even propagate to the next generation where someone see the point and grabs hold of the baton.

You can either say in the community and not make waves, float through life thinking you were worth while or you can rebel and follow what you feel is right and hope to roll with all the punches that will be thrown.

[DrStiffler]

Circuit Confusion

I have become aware that a few replicators did not understand how the circuit was configured in my wireless video, therefore the following image should clear that up.

[DrStiffler]

Wireless Exciter & Capacitor

Okay here is what some of you are seeing, your cap is to small or to large. Hows that for an answer?

If your cap is to small it will charge to where the Exciter begins to oscillate and then the current drawn from the cap will pull the charge back down and you will see the see saw effect. Remember the Exciter running wireless will have to be on just the right frequency to lock with the transmitter or the inner mix will be defeating and not additive. What this means is that the wireless exciter should be tuned with a power supply prior to doing the wireless trick. Set the frequency where it is additive (seen by changing the transmitter) while the receiver is tuned.

Now disconnect the power supply and insert the capacitor. If you have trouble getting over that first start-up hump, try placing a couple of volts on the cap before starting. This will allowing a small (kick start).

For the 18-1 users, yes the tuning LED limits the effectiveness of the Exciter because it is acting as a regulator of the negative spike on the base. If you do not mind the decline in Beta, pull one end of the LED free and you will get better results. Remember that Beta will drop as much as 50% in the first couple minutes of normal operation without the LED.

[Allcanadian]

@Dr.Stiffler

I have a few papers from people I deeply respect where it is stated that 'Heat' into the environment is lost forever, just trickles off into space never to warm again. How do you change or even suggest to emanate tenured and otherwise extremely qualified professors that they are deeply wrong?

I have found you cannot force a change of perspective, it must occur from within, I would ask these proffessors a simple question. If heat is entropic, radiating it's energy outward --expansively, then where is it's counterpart? It's counterpart is gravity or syntropic forces acting inward compressing energy and compression generates and generation heats. It is a shame they have only seen one side of the coin, if they saw the other our world would be a very different place.

I have learned to play the game, slowly, no real shocks, leave an opening so the student can refute and not dump his/her obtained knowledge all at once. Problem is this may take more time than is allotted to one life span of a teacher and in turn may not even propagate to the next generation where someone see the point and grabs hold of the baton.

Our children will inherit our knowledge and they are a reflection of us and our thoughts. My four year old son brought a micro-impulse motor we made together to pre-school a few months ago. A single hearing aid battery ran the rotor at high speed and the inductive discharges lit four LED's through a small spark gap for days-- his teachers and classmates were of course baffled but he explained the process to them fairly well. I can hardly imagine what he will know and understand by the time he hits highschool, he is going to be his teachers worst nightmare,lol. He is his fathers son as I was to my father, we work at the bench together as I did with my father and we grow together not because he has to but because he wants to.
Regards
AC

[eternalightwithin]

Wow, never thought of it that way!

Too nit pick.....(apologies ahead of time)

It seems funny to me that words like "loss" even get thrown around in this arena. Consider for a second the EM spectrum, IR or heat is none other than an un-accounted for transducer mechanism. Energy = energy, our only problem is capture...maybe. We start all systems at cop =1. we only have up to go from there....

Theoretically, if all systems = 1, entropy is...well... I dare not say it.

[Armagdn03]

I can hardly imagine what he will know and understand by the time he hits highschool, he is going to be his teachers worst nightmare,lol. He is his father son as I was to my father, we work at the bench together as I did with my father and we grow together not because he has to but because he wants to.
Regards
AC

fantastic,

[H2inICE]

Great video's again Dr. Stiffler and Lidmotor

@Dr. Stiffler, have you released the new driver circuit diagrams and values?
Didn't find them on your circuit pages.

I did the cap test on the wireless AV plug and got 28 - 30V depending the angle of the AV plug, but when I hocked the 12V fan on in parallel it would barely turn it and the voltage dropped to 5V fast, yes yes probably too large load but it did not affect the 70 LED's + the one 3W LED (don't run full strenght)

Building a few more towers now so I can do the wireless SEC + a battery charger of that wireless (using a 680uf 200V cap)

I'll make more video's when I get time



Mr H2inICE

[DrStiffler]

Question to ponder

Take a Red or Blue LED and connect it across a 8.2K or 10K carbon resistor, solder the LED close to the resistor body so you have both resistor leads as probes. Now with you transmitter tower excited, touch each lead of the resistor to the top hat and see the result? Why is it better in one polarity than the other? Why don't you need the AV Plug?

Just some US Holiday Fun...

[ren]

Love all this stuff guys.

Dr Stiffler I tried to replicate your wireless capacitor charger somewhat with what I had. I was able to charge a larger cap not shown in the video at 10000uF but it was much slower. I really was surprised at how much voltage was captured in the smaller caps.

I am wondering if an appropriate scaled analogue gauge is accurate enough to take readings from?

The light worked out really well for me this way too. Its more like a light bulb in the way it casts its glow.

Regards.

YouTube - Dr Stifflers SEC Wireless cap charger