Big Joule Theif

[Bodkins]

Why? Talking about Radiant does makes me crazy.
I can see BEMF at my Scope, but no RADIANT!

And anyway, getting the EM back or Radiant, means for me, you get a stronger Magnetfield push back,

Everything in the comos is made of a Magneticfield.

lidmotor thanks, got a video uploading which i will put on the primary phyics thread that will help explain what happening.
you say hot and cold about plates this is very important.
Well done

[sucahyo]

I played around with the bridge rectifer on the back end of the JT and got results like Slayer. The BEMF voltage goes way up. I have my system running on a non-stop test run (50 hrs now) so I did not want to disturb it to much and only tried the bridge on the transistor that was free then took it off.

Would bridge rectifier increase input power?

[Jules Tresor]

Hello Lidmotor,
I was thinking that you could try to put your 5W solar panel behind the CFL to see if there is little power to collect
And may be making a reflective foil on the other side of the CFL to try to collect more power for the solar panel.
Congratulations for your work !
MDG

PS: 50 mA x 2 Volts = 0.1 Watt consumption ... only ! for 2 LED, and 1 CFL, and one battery charging, and now a small cap charging through the Peltier module ... add the solar panel ... You are going efficient man ! That's the less we can say

[Rectified]

Everything in the comos is made of a Magneticfield.

Or could one say, everything in the comos is made of Ether, are the magnetic fields the result of resistances to the movement of the Ether?

Rectified

[shlodo]

Back EMF vs Radiant Spike (Potential Spike)

Why? Talking about Radiant does makes me crazy.
I can see BEMF at my Scope, but no RADIANT!

The BEMF will never be higher than the forward EMF. its the collapsing field that causes a radiant spike. If u see a huge voltage spike for a split second then that is the "radiant spike". u can charge with the BEMF but u will never get more out than in.
as the EM field CHANGES in the coil, energy is sucked from he vacuum resulting in a large spike in potential. This is true for Bedini Motor, Joule Thief, Teslas Impulse Technology, imhotep radiant osc., Ed Gray motor.

Here's a quote from Aaron who is on the forums (found in Aromaz joint research thread):
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"back emf vs potential spike - Aaron"

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Hi everyone, happy newyears - 14 hours for me to go

Anyway, here is the very literal and specific difference between back emf and the radiant spike.

The back emf is lenz's law - it is the counter current created to oppose the forward current in a coil for example. The back emf is what happens simultaneously while we charge the ignition coil.

Then after the power is shut off from the coil and the magnetic coil collapses - that spike that comes back is this inductive spike, transient spike, voltage potential spike, time potential, radiant spike. It is what comes after the forward charge on the coil and back emf have both already stopped happening.

The back emf is what slows down the charging of the coil - there is no back emf there when the power is disconnected, that is why the magnetic field collapses so fast - there is no counter current (back emf) there to hold it back."
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I have a great video of John Bedini explaining all of this, I just need to convert format and I'll upload.
If anyone is interested in learning about Radiant Energy I highly recommend this:
Energy from the Vacuum Science Series

I guess it doesnt really matter wat we call it as long as we can use it, but I know wat Bedini and Tesla would call it... (sorry if im too off topic )
-shlodo

[shlodo]

Would bridge rectifier increase input power?

Sucahyo,

On my JT it does not draw more with the bridge. In fact when the battery is connected Amp draw decreases. I am charging with big 12V 12Ah batteries so u can see a clear difference when its connected or not connected.
I do not know how this compares to simply using 1 diode.

but with a bridge u would imagine u can capture forward and backward current/voltages

-shlodo

[Bodkins]

Or could one say, everything in the comos is made of Ether, are the magnetic fields the result of resistances to the movement of the Ether?

Rectified

YESish
all matter is ether

[sucahyo]

On my JT it does not draw more with the bridge. In fact when the battery is connected Amp draw decreases.

That is very interesting. I never experience that!

[Inquorate]

Om shakti shakti shakti om

Well well, this is a breath of fresh air. I knew something must be up with this thread when I saw bodkins posting :-) three cheers for electron vortices in the superfluid aether!

[Aaron]

back emf vs. spike

The BEMF will never be higher than the forward EMF. its the collapsing field that causes a radiant spike. If u see a huge voltage spike for a split second then that is the "radiant spike".

Hi Shlodo, I just posted this:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3806-back-emf-vs-collapsing-magnetic-field-spike.html

All I have been doing is quoting the facts in regards to this.

[shlodo]

Hi Shlodo, I just posted this:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3806-back-emf-vs-collapsing-magnetic-field-spike.html

All I have been doing is quoting the facts in regards to this.

Well speak of the devil!

cheers Aaron, good idea to start a thread on this topic. will post when i got some spare time. your insight is greatly appreciated...

Here's a video of me recovering a completely dead battery (12v 7.2Ah) with my joule thief charger. In the video the starting voltage is shown to be around 9V. However I had been charging before I shot the clip, it actually started at 5V and would not power anything! not even LEDS. It would not accept a charge from conventional charger

Amp draw is quite high, 1A, but im not testing in Vs Out. Just seeing whether it can recover an unrecoverable battery

YouTube - Joule Thief Charger Recovers Dead Battery 04

I have a dead motorbike battery sitting around, cant wait to strike the thing with some radiant and see what happens!

-shlodo

[Bodkins]

Well well, this is a breath of fresh air. I knew something must be up with this thread when I saw bodkins posting :-) three cheers for electron vortices in the superfluid aether!

YouTube - Think out of the BOX Primary Phyics

I think this is what we are working with, Adding Ground Lidmotor is just adding another stressfield to feed from.
Think about it Like Trees grow in two stressfield.
And it called ETHER

[Lidmotor]

Extra energy--Free energy---It's ALL GOOD---I'll take it!!

Hello Lidmotor,
I was thinking that you could try to put your 5W solar panel behind the CFL to see if there is little power to collect
And may be making a reflective foil on the other side of the CFL to try to collect more power for the solar panel.
Congratulations for your work !
MDG

PS: 50 mA x 2 Volts = 0.1 Watt consumption ... only ! for 2 LED, and 1 CFL, and one battery charging, and now a small cap charging through the Peltier module ... add the solar panel ... You are going efficient man ! That's the less we can say

@Stephenafreter---I have tried the solar panel energy recovery on other light projects and there is some but it is a small amount. If we had "solar panel paint" in our homes then it might make sense. I read somewhere that there are experiments with phosphorescent paint that glows after the lights are turned off. I guess that is a form of energy recovery.
You are right about this circuit becoming very very efficient. There was a Volvo car commercial years ago that claimed that their car got such good gas mileage that every morning you had to siphon off the gas tank to keep it from overflowing. When the day comes when I have to put a constant load on the charge battery to keep it from over charging is the day I will stop. They already do this on solar systems. Imagine this on a "spike" charging system.

Lidmotor

[slayer007]

@ Lidmotor

Did you ever try your Gray tube with this?

[Lidmotor]

Gray Tube on the Joule Thief

@ Lidmotor

Did you ever try your Gray tube with this?

Slayer-----No I havn't. But on that "Inverted JT" that I built I tried out the HV cup cap that I built to see if I could make some "purple sparks" to play with. It didn't work to good and I was over heating things so I stopped. I imagine that the Gray tube might be used here in some way. Aaron would know.

Lidmotor