Gray Tube Replication

[nat1971a]

hmmm hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[skaght]

schematic


By skaght at 2011-03-02

I'm using an odd mix of high voltage diodes although I have some 1200 volt, 6 amp diodes on order which will replace the three HV diodes I'm currently using. The Relay is triggered with a basic transistor circuit and square wave generator. The circuit works best at about 1 Hz.

[nat1971a]

i'm interested can you post a diagram

Cheers
N.

[skaght]

I was posting on the water spark plug thread, but I think I should be posting here, since my circuit is moving away from igniting water and towards a grey tube type circuit. I'm using the standard setup for the water spark plug with a 20 uF capacitor and ignition coil. The spark gap is an LED. After firing the cap thru a small yellow LED, the LED blew out and now shoots orange green plasma out the side with each capacitor discharge (about 1 cm of plasma). The plasma is cold to the touch, and the LED doesn't get hot even with a little over 1 Hz repetition rate. I put a small 1.5 volt alkaline battery in series to ground with the LED and something interesting happens. The voltage on the battery spikes very NEGATIVE with each discharge. This seems to imply that a significant current is rushing up from ground. I just figured I'd post to see if it "sparked" any interest...

Edit:
After letting the circuit run, even though the scope shows a large negative spike with each impulse to the battery, the overall battery voltage is charging, albeit rather slowly.

The 50mm fan has somehow lost its ability to self-start since using it
with the CDI system. I've got a copper wire serving to act as a bar
onto which the primary side of the interruptor armature will touch and
contact with the other.

[mlurye]

Aaron, have you ever seen this demo YouTube - Selfrunning free energy Kapanadze device from SR193 with english subtitles?
This device generates very strong magnetic field and mixing HV and LV.

[mlurye]

Aaron,
I'm talking about Russian forums, there ~90% of water. And there couple of people who are claiming that they replicated the device, but unfortunately they are not shearing on how to build it.

[Aaron]

mixing

FYI,
A lot of Russian sites lately are discussing Kapanadze and SR systems. And according to what everybody are saying authors of this systems are mixing AC and HV HF signal to drive a coil. So the trick is to find correct frequency for HV and HF and synchronize it with AC. And it will create very strong magnetic field and HV high current signal as result.
I do believe that Grays system using same idea.
The best of luck in your research.

Thanks - very interesting! Any links to those sites?

[wings]

FYI,
A lot of Russian sites lately are discussing Kapanadze and SR systems. And according to what everybody are saying authors of this systems are mixing AC and HV HF signal to drive a coil. So the trick is to find correct frequency for HV and HF and synchronize it with AC. And it will create very strong magnetic field and HV high current signal as result.
I do believe that Grays system using same idea.
The best of luck in your research.

HV HF = plasma over coil

Spiral Plasma Tube on Vimeo
YouTube - MHD-VORTEX-PLASMA

[mlurye]

FYI,
A lot of Russian sites lately are discussing Kapanadze and SR systems. And according to what everybody are saying authors of this systems are mixing AC and HV HF signal to drive a coil. So the trick is to find correct frequency for HV and HF and synchronize it with AC. And it will create very strong magnetic field and HV high current signal as result.
I do believe that Grays system using same idea.
The best of luck in your research.

[Aaron]

@Pranav

hi aaron

bridge is made with 1x3 microwave diode

for bridge i use only four diode 1x3

and you are right mic 6a4 means 6 amp 400v

20 diode in series mic 6a4

have wonderful day

Hi Pranav,

Ok, my misunderstanding. I thought 1x3 meant x3 as in quantity 3.

Does your bridge get hot? The voltage is fine but the 1x3 I think
is rated too low for current. Even if the secondary MOT output is
not high current, it may work better with diodes rated at a higher
amperage. Your 6A4 is better for the bridge but if you are using
1700 output from secondary, it will take a lot of those.

For example, if you have 1700 output, I would make a bridge with
the 6A4 for at least 2500 volts so that means 6 to 7 diodes per side
X 4 = 24 to 28 of those diodes to make a bridge. I think you will get
much better results. But please do NOT do that yet if you think it
works fine now.

Please check your private message.

scr diodes



I'm seeing here that you are not including a resistor to the gate of
your SCR diode. This further confuses me as I have still not been able
to successfully implement these into my CDI system.

The method I've been using is the dual-resistor voltage sink, tapping
the output from between two resistors to divide the voltage into
something to match what the datasheet says should be applied to the gate,
and it has resulted in no effect. The meter shows that when the gate
is contacted, the voltage output from between the two resistors goes from
+1.xx volts down to maybe -15V.

The way it ended up working for me was with a small pc fan spinning
to contact two metal contact wires together. It has a rectangle of
wood glued to the center and is slightly offset to produce one contact
per revolution. [video] It can be seen skipping once or twice from the
buildup of spark corrosion.

[pranav2010]

diode

hi aaron

bridge is made with 1x3 microwave diode

for bridge i use only four diode 1x3

and you are right mic 6a4 means 6 amp 400v

20 diode in series mic 6a4

have wonderful day

[Aaron]

@Pranav

Hi Pranav,

Thank you but it was definitely your persistence that paid off!

Below, I removed the diodes between bridge and cap. Are those
necessary? Were those also high voltage diodes? You can leave
them of course if it works fine.

Are the 20x diodes MIC 6A4? So 400volts 6amps?

Also, your full wave bridge - what part number are those diodes?
And does the bridge use only 4 diodes total?

[pranav2010]

diode

hi arron

1x3 is the number of microwave diode its rating is 12kv 500mamp

i am giving up to 1700v to cap

its charging very well

all circuit working good

i think diode is the main issue in my circuit

what do you think

after success of this i am using my circuit which i developed

i will definitely tell you about it

let me do this first

this success is all because of you

have wonderful day