Imhotep's Radiant Oscillator Video

[Lidmotor]

Lidmotor,

I just tried Thedude's circuit with my SSG, and could not get it to work. The light only lit dimly when the ignition coil was in parallel with the motor coil. It worked the same (badly) with or without the capacitor across the primary. It did not light the light at all when wired any other way I tried. My system did not self-oscillate, but the current did drop to the 200ma range, but also slowed the motor down to a crawl. I'll try raising the base resistor or just build a stand-alone self-oscillator, like Jetijs shows.

By the way, that circuit, with the three resistors of 2k, 10k, and 18k, was developed by John Bedini while I was working for him in 2004.

Thanks for the extra details about your LB unit. Great work.

I hope for better results tomorrow.

Peter

Peter,

I took me over 2 hours to get mine to work. My initial tries ended with results like yours. I basically stumbled onto the right resistance on the transistor base and my little SSG started to self oscillate. From there I just kept trying different resistors until I got the CFL to light at about half brightness and drawing about 230 miliamps. It was also charging on the backend at that point. It was running on 12v and if I increased to 24 volts (added a 2nd 12v battery in series) the brightness dramatically increased but so did the current draw. This needs more work but its a good start. Also, on the LB unit it takes about 1 amp to make the two lights bright. Good news is that with the lid on the box you can hardly hear the relay. I think that tomorrow I am going to build the stand alone self-oscillator that Jetijs showed. Is it possible to put a voltage multipiler somewhere in here to bump the voltage up and make the lights brighter?
Lidmotor

[theremart]

Lidmotor,

I just tried Thedude's circuit with my SSG, and could not get it to work. The light only lit dimly when the ignition coil was in parallel with the motor coil. It worked the same (badly) with or without the capacitor across the primary. It did not light the light at all when wired any other way I tried. My system did not self-oscillate, but the current did drop to the 200ma range, but also slowed the motor down to a crawl. I'll try raising the base resistor or just build a stand-alone self-oscillator, like Jetijs shows.

By the way, that circuit, with the three resistors of 2k, 10k, and 18k, was developed by John Bedini while I was working for him in 2004.

Thanks for the extra details about your LB unit. Great work.

I hope for better results tomorrow.

Peter

Hi Peter,

I had mine working when I put it in series where I have put my bulb in circuit. That seems to give me good results...

Cheers

[Jetijs]

Peter, it was not my intention to show this circuit as my own and I apologize if it looked so. Back then I just looked at various Bedini circuits and this was what I came up with when trying to combine some of them.
Thanks,
Jetijs

[Peter Lindemann]

Totally Jealous...

Imhotep, Peter, Ren , and thedude.---Thanks for all the help and kind comments. My "lunch Box" being fininshed, I started on the solid state (thedude) version today and got it to run just as he did!!! His circuit diagram works. Mine was drawing 230 miliamps when I had to stop for the day. The key was getting my SSG to self oscillate by gradually increasing the resistance to about 3k on the base of the transistor. Thanks Ren. I would have never have got there if you hadn't told us to do that. Peter and Imhotep-- the LB Lite weighs about 6 to 7 lbs. with the three battery packs in it. I ran it most of yesterday using the small solar panel and rotating batteries. The draw is between 230 miliamps and 1amp.( using the dimmer rheostat). Gotta run. Have a birthday party to go to. Thanks for everyones help. This is a great project to be envolved with..

Lidmotor

Lidmotor,

I just tried Thedude's circuit with my SSG, and could not get it to work. The light only lit dimly when the ignition coil was in parallel with the motor coil. It worked the same (badly) with or without the capacitor across the primary. It did not light the light at all when wired any other way I tried. My system did not self-oscillate, but the current did drop to the 200ma range, but also slowed the motor down to a crawl. I'll try raising the base resistor or just build a stand-alone self-oscillator, like Jetijs shows.

By the way, that circuit, with the three resistors of 2k, 10k, and 18k, was developed by John Bedini while I was working for him in 2004.

Thanks for the extra details about your LB unit. Great work.

I hope for better results tomorrow.

Peter

[Jetijs]

Hi all
A while ago I played with some self oscillator circuits. I had a bifilar coil with too little windings and I could not get it to self oscillate using high base resistance and a magnet (this is no problem if using a coil with more than 450-500 turns). Then I made a different circuit and it worked. Here it is:



This way you can easily make any bifilar coil to self oscillate. Then just add thedude's ignition coil mod and you're up to go
Hope this helps.

[Lidmotor]

Great Great News!!!

Imhotep, Peter, Ren , and thedude.---Thanks for all the help and kind comments. My "lunch Box" being fininshed, I started on the solid state (thedude) version today and got it to run just as he did!!! His circuit diagram works. Mine was drawing 230 miliamps when I had to stop for the day. The key was getting my SSG to self oscillate by gradually increasing the resistance to about 3k on the base of the transistor. Thanks Ren. I would have never have got there if you hadn't told us to do that. Peter and Imhotep-- the LB Lite weighs about 6 to 7 lbs. with the three battery packs in it. I ran it most of yesterday using the small solar panel and rotating batteries. The draw is between 230 miliamps and 1amp.( using the dimmer rheostat). Gotta run. Have a birthday party to go to. Thanks for everyones help. This is a great project to be envolved with..

Lidmotor

[CitizenDC]

thanx for the info i will be playing with this today to see if i can get the fans to light with good brightness and good current draw.

Hi Ren,

Thanks for posting this. Last night I found out how to make Imhoteps fan ssg's self oscillate and have been experimenting with it.
I've connected the output of the fan ssg to my ignition coil, then from the ignition coil to my UV bulb. It worked!!!!

Imhotep, I've added another post to your Free-Energy-atlast thread explaining how to get the fans resonating easily.
One peculiarity is that it would only work if I connected the output of the ignition coil to the 6w UV bulb then grounded it to a sink or earth point.
Also, if you drag it onto another metal surface it makes nice welding arcs too!

The fan coil was resonating at 30vcd @ .5 amps. The fan I used has an internal coil resistance of 2ohm and I used a 2.2k resistor to achieve resonance. This fan allowed me to pull more current that the smaller fans and thus I could light the lamp better.



When connecting it to the spark plug it sparked very well!

cheers

[gmeat]

Great work Everyone

Hi Everyone,


I have done this circuit but had problems getting the relay to not lockup.I'm currently doing a different experiment which goes something like this.I took a battery and hooked up its + terminal to a secondary battery at its + terminal then from its -terninal I hooked it up to a 3rd batteries - terminal and then from the 3rd batteries + terminal ran it to a 12 volt halogen bulb rated at 20 watts and then from there to the - terminal of the first battery.The second battery shoots up pretty quickly and as a matter of fact its currently sitting @ 13.87volts from 12.56 at start.After about 1.5 hours.The first battery initially dropped down from 12.85v at start but seems to settle in at around 12.46 volts while the 3rd battery seems to take a bigger hit going from 12.98volts at start to about 12.37volts.I'm not quite sure what to make of this yet so dont read anything into this just yet.I dont currently have the Imhotep light setup now as I've moved on to the waterspark experiments and I also have burnt out all my transistors for my SSG .So my question is could someone try reversing a battery after the primary and let me know if that works in the SSG or the circuit you guys are running here .I dont believe it will work but who knows,Nothing ventured nothing gained.You guys (and Gal ) Are doing great work in this thread.Thx to all .

P.S. Be very very careful if you use a halogen bulb,Because they tend to leave nice little blisters on fingers that touch them .



-Gary

[**~Imhotep~**]

Hi mate,

I wont delve too deeply into the SG side of it, if you want to know more PM me or look in some of the other threads. Id be happy to help, the Master/Slave schematics will have you building your fans all over again!!

Please note, I havent tried this exact setup, the general gist of it is to "borrow" the trigger signal provided by the SG (solidstate or not) to switch our primary (IGN coil) on and off. There are probably better ways to do this, but here goes.

In my crappy little diagram below you can see the standard SG circuit. Off to the left you can also see the ignition coil, which is being switched by an identical transistor to the one which the SG is using. Important to note that the resistances on the base have to stay equal, otherwise they both wont switch correctly. You can still use a pot, just branch off to other bases from the pot with the same resistances. You can pulse as many primaries as you like with this method, you can see one of my SGs below. The coil at the top is trifilar and has no trigger, the MASTER coil is at the bottom, and it is responsible for the triggering.

You may find it easier to light off the Ign coil with the SG in solidstate oscillation, to do this simply just up the resistance on the trigger coil. Try anywhere from 2k-20k. It should "buzz" (oscillate) when you hook up everything if done correctly. Otherwise you may need to drive your SG/Fan with higher voltages to get the switching speed fast enough. Who knows...Good luck



PS. The Emitter to Base diode on the second NPN, the one that drives the primary of the Ign Coil may or may not be needed in this instance. It is definately needed if one wants to use it in multifilar/multi coil SGs.

thanx for the info i will be playing with this today to see if i can get the fans to light with good brightness and good current draw.

[Peter Lindemann]

Excellent!!

Hi , I been watchig this very closely. I went to my SSG right away after I got the oscillator running on the relay. I got it to work just the way theDude
diagramed it but the light was weak unless I kept uping the voltage. Neither one of my SSGs will self oscillate. I will try uping the resistance on the base and see if that works. My phase one replication is done and in a plastic box someone has called it a "lunch box". So I think I'll call this my LB model. Time to start on phase two with the new trigger circuit. One coil this time. Here is the video of the LB . YouTube - Imhotep Radiant Oscillator -- Boxed

Lidmotor

Lidmotor,

Yes, I concur with Imhotep, excellent, excellent work!

One simple question. What is the current draw in your system when you are lighting two lights to maximum brightness?

Keep up the great work!

Peter

[**~Imhotep~**]

Hi , I been watchig this very closely. I went to my SSG right away after I got the oscillator running on the relay. I got it to work just the way theDude
diagramed it but the light was weak unless I kept uping the voltage. Neither one of my SSGs will self oscillate. I will try uping the resistance on the base and see if that works. My phase one replication is done and in a plastic box someone has called it a "lunch box". So I think I'll call this my LB model. Time to start on phase two with the new trigger circuit. One coil this time. Here is the video of the LB . YouTube - Imhotep Radiant Oscillator -- Boxed

Lidmotor

Wow! I am blown away! the first fully working portable model. Excellent. How heavy is the unit and can u hear the relay through the box. Again..WOW

[Bodkins]

thanks bodkins
coil driver ran cfl not so bright, but charged gel battery good.
It was set at 133hz so i added 2 pots to it and wound it up to the highest pitch, both darlington and bulb went coldest i had felt ,got abit more liht outa cfl.
wanta hear some thing weird.
was using one battery to run light so added diode in4007 to negitive lead returning to battery from light, bulb went really dim but battery started charging itself up.
Has any body come across this,battery is running 555driver using 600ma, into coil ,plus a dim cfl and has gone up from 10.30v to 10.58v and climbing.
Can any one explain,cheers te.

tryed return the negative not got the same result will keep playing but i think the darlingtons my be adding somethin but hey what do i no!!
is it still climbing?

[Bodkins]

hi all
playing with the fan and ignition coil got it in oscillation but with poor light output, one bulb one wire conection. if i return the negative its stops.
But if i have two blubs and return the negative it keeps going and the light is better.it draws 150millamps i think its the same light output as if i was pulseing with the 555 but saving on thee 555 input.

[ren]

Can u do a quick sketch of what you mean, because i have lots of little fans and i am currently working on it now. when i hook up the circuit to the fan it draws the rpm's down. it continues to only draw .2 amps. but the light does not continue to light and does not oscillate the primary of the ignition coil.
thank you for the suggestion

Hi mate,

I wont delve too deeply into the SG side of it, if you want to know more PM me or look in some of the other threads. Id be happy to help, the Master/Slave schematics will have you building your fans all over again!!

Please note, I havent tried this exact setup, the general gist of it is to "borrow" the trigger signal provided by the SG (solidstate or not) to switch our primary (IGN coil) on and off. There are probably better ways to do this, but here goes.

In my crappy little diagram below you can see the standard SG circuit. Off to the left you can also see the ignition coil, which is being switched by an identical transistor to the one which the SG is using. Important to note that the resistances on the base have to stay equal, otherwise they both wont switch correctly. You can still use a pot, just branch off to other bases from the pot with the same resistances. You can pulse as many primaries as you like with this method, you can see one of my SGs below. The coil at the top is trifilar and has no trigger, the MASTER coil is at the bottom, and it is responsible for the triggering.

You may find it easier to light off the Ign coil with the SG in solidstate oscillation, to do this simply just up the resistance on the trigger coil. Try anywhere from 2k-20k. It should "buzz" (oscillate) when you hook up everything if done correctly. Otherwise you may need to drive your SG/Fan with higher voltages to get the switching speed fast enough. Who knows...Good luck



PS. The Emitter to Base diode on the second NPN, the one that drives the primary of the Ign Coil may or may not be needed in this instance. It is definately needed if one wants to use it in multifilar/multi coil SGs.

[Lidmotor]

Self oscillating SSG

i was able to take my voltage up to 24 volts on my fan and was able to light the light without any additional circuitry. so you are right the small fans can do it if you increase the voltage. it did seem to pulse ok. But the motor coils were starting to get a little warm so i stopped it. so you are correct the fans will light the bulbs but you have to watch the heat on them on the motor coils. But it was not as bright as the relay in my first attempts. But I can confirm the fans under circumstances the fans will light the bulbs with no relay. The transistor did not get hot, but like i said the motor coils started to get a little warm and even if the fan stops it will continue to light the bulb. very interesting It did seem to rock the fan magnetic structure a bit when it stopped and i did have to adjust the pot to find the sweet spot. i did have to increase the resistance a bit. Thank you ren for the suggestion.

Hi , I been watchig this very closely. I went to my SSG right away after I got the oscillator running on the relay. I got it to work just the way theDude
diagramed it but the light was weak unless I kept uping the voltage. Neither one of my SSGs will self oscillate. I will try uping the resistance on the base and see if that works. My phase one replication is done and in a plastic box someone has called it a "lunch box". So I think I'll call this my LB model. Time to start on phase two with the new trigger circuit. One coil this time. Here is the video of the LB . YouTube - Imhotep Radiant Oscillator -- Boxed

Lidmotor