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  • marseye
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    @ jackwestly :

    You know what ? I've been helped before, and without a doubt will have to be helped again myself about other subjects... So, please, don't mention it.

    As I already said : don't hesitate to give a look there : John Bedini Simplified School Girl basic plans : it's the same, on a bigger scale (except there's no cw and ccw for the coil's windings, since the magnets on the wheel are all north).

    Just an idea : could your coils' extremities still be enamelled enough ?

    Ah : "battery just 12v", you said. A healthy battery is rather 12.5 Volts : isn't yours discharged ? You may want to feed your setup after a simple transfo (about: 500 mA out, or more).

    To check your transistor : a multimeter, set on diode position, should read only when :
    - positive probe on the base and negative probe on the collector
    - positive probe on the base and negative probe on the emitter
    - if it reads after you reversed the probes : then the transistor is dead.

    Good luck, you're near.

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  • jackwestly
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    Originally posted by marseye View Post
    @jackwestly,

    Until you get satisfactory results, you're going to be full of inner doubts, like we all (most of us) have been. Stay quiet, because once you'll know how to make it run, then you'll replicate it at will with ease. And it's very easy.



    Don't get desperate : once you'll see it running right, then is the very begining of a great journey on a neverending new path of curiosity for what the school didn't teach you.
    Many thinks to Marseye.
    i will keep try until i get it .

    have check the
    * coil ok ....... 1)139.4ohm 2)138.8ohm. no short
    * transister ok ...1.96k
    * diod ok
    * battery only 12v

    many thanks

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  • marseye
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    @jackwestly,

    Until you get satisfactory results, you're going to be full of inner doubts, like we all (most of us) have been. Stay quiet, because once you'll know how to make it run, then you'll replicate it at will with ease. And it's very easy.

    1) could you have a confirmation with a multimeter that each start/end that you declare are really the right pairs for each coil ?

    2) if they are, try to reverse one start/end only

    Your bulb should be a neon (or any gaz) needing alternative current and rated at least for 65v (because with a filament, it could make contact all of the time, ie : be lit from dc, and it would in fact drive the current permanently). It's prefered than the bulb has a 110v rating ( I've used 220v bulbs with success), since energy peaks may reach several hundred volts, but with feeble amperage (what permits the bulb be lit). The bulb is meant to let you find a good setting ('sweet spot', where the higher the peaks go, since we started from 12v...), AND to prevent your transistor of burning when no battery is attached after it. Oh :and when a charging battery is attached, the buld will certainly not light any more : that's normal.

    About your fan stopping but yet 'singing', it may indicate that your setup is right, and that you have a charging battery attached after the diode from the collector, meaning your charging battery is quite empty and 'sucks' all of the current. But : even a 'singing' fan makes the desired oscillations and peaks (see it then as a piezo thing, since sound is oscillation). Those peaks are what charge the 'receiving' battery.

    But just try to deplug any charging battery, and the fan should run ok (but keep your bulb attached, for the reasons already said above).

    If nothing still works correctly, you then will have to verify that
    all of your components are ok (no shorting between the fan's coils; transistor still alive; a good half watt 100 ohms resistor in between a good pot and the base; the diodes should be fine too)

    If still not a clue, then try another fan maybe. I, as most of us, have broken around half a dozen fans before I could be sure of the real thing.
    Nevertheless are worth each of your failures, as they teach you at least as much as you successes, maybe more.

    A very last solution may be found in a low voltage from the main battery that you'd wrongly think is (about) 12.5v.... But it would be really bad luck!

    Don't get desperate : once you'll see it running right, then is the very begining of a great journey on a neverending new path of curiosity for what the school didn't teach you.

    You're welcome.

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  • jackwestly
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    marseye,
    i have a wrong connection on 2 negative end coil between the primary and secondary. My fan just ran a few second then stop. The neon bulb is light up with a little sound.the winding is ok. thanks for the reply




    Last edited by jackwestly; 06-02-2010, 02:05 PM.

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  • marseye
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    @ jackwestly :

    Hi,
    it seems right, but not sure because of your coil's drawing.
    1) you should put at least a real 100 ohms resistor between your pot and the transsistor's base, so that you never can reach 0 with the pot (that may burn your transistor)

    2) just consider 2 windings for the coils, each one having a start and and end.
    (just check with a multimeter, on ohms position). If it doesn't run, then just reverse the start and the end from 1 coil only. It should then run ok.

    You may want to refer to this SSG bikewheel diagram to understand better : John Bedini Simplified School Girl basic plans

    Cheers.

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  • jackwestly
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    errow on circuit

    Hello every one... have watch this discussion about 4 day. So today build one but i'm not so sure my circuit connection, can any one help. Here are my pic diagram. thanks



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  • iknewit
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    Originally posted by Joit View Post
    Hi,
    works your meter correct, when you short the leades?
    did you remove the Paint from the wire with a knife?
    i dont think, that there is so much wire on it, to get a Mohm,
    I had once a coil with #30 wire for a Waterpump,
    but it had 4 times more Wire on it as this Fans and at all maybe 280 Ohms.
    But it would not do any matter anyway, you only need to adjust the Resistance from the Wires with the Pot, works in any range.
    Yes meter works fine. I took a closer look at the windings and I think I may have messed them up when taking it apart. Back to the drawing board.

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  • Joit
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    Little Update.
    Today i tried to charge Button Cells, and it worked.
    Only Problem is, that you should not charge with to much current,
    i used about 20 mA to charge a Standart 1,5V (357Cell), and that even did go very fast, maybe 30 min.
    I saw it once at a Pack of AAA Batteries, when i use to much current, they get hot.
    I am assuming, that the Amount of Energy in one Pulse is to much for the Capacity,
    and the Batterie dont have enough time to cool down.
    Thats why you can destroy it when you use to strong Pulses.

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  • Joit
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    Hi,
    works your meter correct, when you short the leades?
    did you remove the Paint from the wire with a knife?
    i dont think, that there is so much wire on it, to get a Mohm,
    I had once a coil with #30 wire for a Waterpump,
    but it had 4 times more Wire on it as this Fans and at all maybe 280 Ohms.
    But it would not do any matter anyway, you only need to adjust the Resistance from the Wires with the Pot, works in any range.

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  • iknewit
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    Originally posted by **~Imhotep~** View Post
    my videos have spread like a tornado all over the net.
    i am shocked. and pleased .i just got time to pop back in and was pleased to see some new circuits.

    i am hopeful that i can complete some more circuit modifications and release them and some completely different circuits, as i continue to see off the shelf circuits that can be modified.i must choose carefully what is released.
    hope to be back soon

    imhotep and shiva
    As you can see, I'm a newbie and have watched your videos. I hope I haven't missed it, but do you have a Radio Shack or any other brand part number for the fan? I've opened a half dozen or more so far and after separating the wires on the post where there are two and carefully measuring what should be two sets of two coils in series, I get readings in the megohm range, so these are obviously wound differently.

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  • Mapmann
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    For the Colis.
    Its right that i need just tow of thise http://www.rec-electronic.de/shop/im...ferdraht02.jpg and a wheel with North Magnets in the Middel ?

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  • **~Imhotep~**
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    Patrick J. Kelly has reproduced my basic work in his manual called"Practical Guide to Free-Energy Devices"
    on the web ,and in chapter 6 has a good description of the circuits and an expansion on the single relay charger .it is a dual relay charger check it out on my website"imhotepslab.com "
    or on his "Free-Energy Devices, zero-point energy, and water as fuel " more expansions on the fan are coming if i get the time to publish them .be back soon i hope.talk to you all soon

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  • **~Imhotep~**
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    Originally posted by yx630514 View Post
    Hello everybody

    I have a 9 pole and 12 pole, can it? Effect may be better? By the way how the wind?

    --------
    Xu Yuan
    you will find 4 pole winding data on this link "YouTube - Free energy - Bi-Filiar winding for Bedini Imhotep Fan" good luck ,the video uses an 8 pole rotor for illustration and depending on the magnetic structure of the motor i don't see why you could not use the same pattern all the way around any stator. give it a try and see if it spins up .

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  • yx630514
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    9 pole and 12 pole can it?

    Hello everybody

    I have a 9 pole and 12 pole, can it? Effect may be better? By the way how the wind?

    --------
    Xu Yuan
    Attached Files

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  • digitz
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    1NRG24Seven:

    the wattage on this is not really important, as it stays very small, you can use a regular pot.
    if you can find a 120mm fan, you'll have a little higher power (if you find one of those thick ones, its even better), and they are more easy to rewound if needed
    then you can use 12v on it, i used also 24v without problem, up to 36v (but not on a long run for 36v)
    these fans are good for recharging small not rechargeable batteries like the AAAs
    happy building !!

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