One typical mistake a noob does ( i have been also!) in sites like this is that he is biased by his want-to-believe, belief and reads all free-energy related posts and considers it has been done repeatedly by senior members etc, while treats all opposing posts as "Nay-sayers", negative aura people, MIB, etc
I have said it before, i will say it again and i will say it in every occassion. Free energy beyond doubt has never been produced.
From the moment that will be produced and a third trustworthy party replication occurs with full specs (results posted on the internet) will be made, this technology will spread like wildfire by Internet power.
Unfortunetely this is not the case in any way. You have been led here because you do not believe current official physics dogma.
Do not allow then, to believe anyone who formualtes theories and spell out words without tangible proof.
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free energy at last, my a%5e!
I have read most of this thread, watched the video's AND built the bloody thing.
Waste of time it is.
Anyone who wants to SHOW ME the free energy, is welcome to.
If you convince me then I'll write a retraction.
Until then, I'd have to recomend that the seeker after truth move on, there's nothing to see here.
I'd love to be able to apologise for this posting, but for now, it's the truth as told by someone who has spent time and a little money looking ito it.
I will not be back, (don't want to waste any more time on this) but you can mail me at my username dot hotmail.
Cheers, Steve C.Last edited by swallabat; 07-02-2010, 10:03 AM. Reason: Untidy posting, should have previewed it. Wasn't to my usual standard.
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From conventional perspective charging efficiency is 3%, with bonus of running a fan althought slower than usual.Originally posted by hatman View PostHi,
I am new to this and just trying to understand and learn as possible so I apologize if my question seems silly. After reading a whole lot on this and watching the suggested videos it remains a mystery to me on how exactly is this free energy. It appears that you need a power supply to run the fan, which then charges the dead battery. Is this an over-unity device? If I need a battery to charge another battery - why would I do that? How many batteries can I charge with one battery?
If anyone can explain or give examples of the input and output voltage, polarity, wattage, etc. that would be great.
Thanks!
For "free enery at last" explanation, I leave it to other to explain...
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How is this free energy?
Hi,
I am new to this and just trying to understand and learn as possible so I apologize if my question seems silly. After reading a whole lot on this and watching the suggested videos it remains a mystery to me on how exactly is this free energy. It appears that you need a power supply to run the fan, which then charges the dead battery. Is this an over-unity device? If I need a battery to charge another battery - why would I do that? How many batteries can I charge with one battery?
If anyone can explain or give examples of the input and output voltage, polarity, wattage, etc. that would be great.
Thanks!
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Thanks Joit for the explanation. it frees me from most of the confusion that this new project of mine gave me. certainly my head don't hurt anymore.
I'll do some the current test tomorrow. by the way, about the Schottky Diode is the 1N5711 good enough? i can see a lot form datasheet.net.
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Hi,
actually it is right, when you connect a Batterie, that the Bulb goes off,
and yes, the Batterie takes the Power.
The Bulb is even used as indicator too, once, that your Batterie get charged,
and second to find the sweet Spot better, tuned with the Pot.
There been few times mentioned that you should adjust it to the highest rpm
and the lowest Amp draw from the Source.
You have to connect your Meter in serie after the Plus from Runbatterie, to see it.
For the Bulb, its actually, Current will go there, where is lower Resistance,
and that will be at the Batterie.
You can disconnect the Bulb anyway after, when you charge the Batterie,
because its anyhow wasted Energy, any you only need it as Indicator.
When a Led actually light purple it is mostly like that, that it get to much power.
Not sure if you use a neon or a Led.
For the Pot, let see what it does. A Transistor is like a switch, what opens,
and depends how far, how much current/power he get at the Base.
As more, as more wider he opens, and as more current he will let trough the Coils.
There is a limit, what the Wires can handle, before they get hot.
So when you place 2 Pots in serie, its nothing more as a higher ratet Pot,
but you could more fine tune it, when you ie use a 5k and a 1k Pot.
The complete Amount of Resistance will be the same if you use one or 2 Pots.
For the Diodes, they are only differnt ratet at higher Voltage, ie, 1n4001 - 4007 are ratet from 50V - 400 V or something.
When you look informations on certain parts, then Datasheet.net is a good Source for that,
just type the part numbers in above.
But mainly it does not make much different what you use for the base,
because there is not much current there, its the inductive current from the 2 Coil pair,
and the switch rate is usual at 300-1000 hz, what most Diodes could handle easy.
And well, for that, that the Fans are easy Projects, you can use the 4007 for charging the Batterie too, but i would prefer a fast switching Diode or a Schottky Diode, because they switch faster, what is better for the Spikes.
Using 2 Coils, it would increase the Rate of charging, but you need more Power too,
to run the Circuit.
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any comments?
pardon me that i'm very new to electrical. but i somehow have manage to make the fan running. thanks to imhoteps web site tutorials for the tips before i fry tools. and easy to follow instruction.
i've change my diode to the in4007 ones and change the pot to 2k. and the neon does lite much more easy from tuning the pot. but i'm confused. i'm a bit confuse to the video on youtube. i see neon lite blink. but when i connect the charging battery my neon have no light. is it because the charging battery took all the voltage? is the system built this way? i have no oscilloscope to see voltage spike.
since my neon only lite when theres no charging medium, i try to play with the system and see what i get. i put the source battery in series so that i have 24 volt. the fan does run with more power. and the neon light lite brighter
then i connect the 2 pieces 2k pot in series. my try is to tune the pot to get the neon to lite up. to start both pot are set to the lest resistance. than i tune one pot to get neon lite up. if i go more the neon no lite. then after 1st pot turn finish. i turn the 2nd pot and i found another sweet spot where the neon will lite up.
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not too sure what i've found out. not sure if its worth to investigate.
any comment??? what have happend?
my first try... the neon bulb lite some purple color lite on the tip of the terminal for a short moment on the 2nd peak. then after a few try no more purple color lite from the tip. maybe some thing in the neon tube got burn off or its my imagination... really i'm dono what i see....Last edited by psyionx; 06-10-2010, 11:10 AM.
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Hi all... i've just finish the the bedini fan. Thanks for Imhotep for a good and easy to follow video. well, i cant find the diode here in my side. then the with no idea what else to follow, i bought 2 In5408 diode and follow the non mod fan. to my finding of after figuring out which wire goes where and where. my fan turnd... ^^
my parts
2 new batteries
1 2n3055
1 1k potentiometer
2 IN5408 diodes
1 neon bulb
2 new motorcycle batteries
but...
the neon light did lite but just for a few moment then no more. no matter how i tried, the light only lite when i start the fan, when the fan gone up certain speed, no light. i did use my finger to slow down the fan and it did but after a few try, the neon will not lite again until i swap the battery, odd result. i guess i'll try to change the diode to IN4007 what i just found out few pages back tomorrow morning.
by the way i have a few questions,
will there be improvement if i hookup 2 fan in parallel but one circuit???
will the the effect be double if i built 2 fan each with its own circuit but run from the same source and charge batteries???
thanks
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Joit,
Thanks for the information.Hope i can upgrade my circuit.
Thanks
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iknewit
There are couple Threads 20 pages back, what have usefull things in it,
you only need to tread them.
Here is a Video, what shows it in a simple way, how the Circuit works.
YouTube - Understanding the Bedini Circuit
It is indeed like you said it. It is no perpetuum Mobile, what charge the Run Batterie.Originally posted by jackwestly View PostWas thinking that ??? if i use a 12v battery(source) to run this circuit to charge the order battery then after the 12v battery (source) run out i need another 12v battery to charge my run out battery .......please tell me i'm wrong
But at last, you can charge almost all kind of Batteries, try that the normal way.
They got more capacity and no memory effect.
This should it be worth for you.
To understand the Circuit better, you may play a lot more around with it.
And no, i dont know a sucessfull rebuilt from a Circuit what charge the run Batterie, even, when i made once one, but it was something like the Window Motor from Bedini, actually a Newman Motor.
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Was thinking that ??? if i use a 12v battery(source) to run this circuit to charge the order battery then after the 12v battery (source) run out i need another 12v battery to charge my run out battery .......please tell me i'm wrong
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Would someone be kind enough to provide an explanation of the Bedini-Imhotep circuit so that I and maybe other noobs can try to get a better understanding of what's going on?
Thank you.
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My bedini move finally ha ha
After see your reply then i figure it out that my Neon bulb 12v .... oh my god .... why i didn't saw. Thats why the fan motor did not run
. must be taking to much current and voltage.
i try some different neon bulb voltage: but i did not add another resistor on the (you should put at least a real 100 ohms resistor between your pot and the transsistor's base, so that you never can reach 0 with the pot (that may burn your transistor)
Result
12v.... sure cannot run
24v.... can run but not long the transistor set to very low
120v... is running
220v ... very good ... i hook on the charge point diod and (-) get 6.25V
and also try 9v battery can run also but in low speed. I put the LED light to the charging point the fan stop
. will try next day for charging the 2x 1.5V battery, see how it work.
Was thinking that ??? if i use a 12v battery to run this circuit to charge the order battery then after the 12v battery run out i need another 12v battery to charge my run out battery .......
Anyway, special thanks to **~Imhotep~** to set p this topic and the VIDEO.and many thanks to **marseye**
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