Multifilar Generator Coil - Lenz delay Experiments

[BroMikey]

Take Two

All you super smart boys who think they know and no time for the bench
time to look at these pages. One of many, plz explain.

Conclusion and Discussion

VIII. It has been suggested by the late Professor Eric Laithwaite that there must
exist an active spin-induced force and a spin-induced inductance, both of which
remain unrecognized in classical mechanics.


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283225757_Magnetic_Repulsion_and_the_Gyroscopic_Fo rce

The consequence of confusing the situation by the introduction of a rotating
frame of reference is that there prevails a further misinformed belief that the
centrifugal force is merely a product of the rotation of the frame of reference
itself rather than a product of the absolute rotation of the particle relative to the
inertial frame. The latter error leads to the bizarre notion that a particle at rest,
when observed from a rotating frame of reference, experiences a fictitious
outward centrifugal force in the radial direction, even though circular motion
can only induce transverse artefacts. This discrepancy is then patched up with
an even more bizarre argument involving a radial Coriolis force. The argument
runs that since the stationary object, as observed from the rotating frame of
reference, is seen due to its inertia to trace out a circular path, there must exist a
fictitious centripetal force acting upon it which can be justified as being the
resultant of the outward radial fictitious centrifugal force and an inward radial
fictitious Coriolis force.

YOU GOT THAT?

[BroMikey]

There was force, there was time, but there was NO distance. Just because the wall didn't move doesn't mean you did not do any work. I'm pretty sure after a few hours of that, you would agree that work was done. Or not.

They are not going to comment on any questioned posed to them just like
are unable to address the fundamental design laid out flawlessly. All
they do is quote out of specific 200 year old confused so called SCIENCE?
books as it is easy to pick and chose text for defense. It's all about
"I TOLD YA SO" "I AM MR. RIGHT" the schools are full of these.

Like John B. always said it is not science that is being taught today it is
"HERE ARE THE ANSWERS SAY THAT AND YOU WILL PASS"

Most of the students are in a state of exhaustion in their teen years
from public school brainwashing schedules of overwhelming floods
of garbage that is confusing and or untrue. As the text book evolve or
morph anyway the controllers determine.

In science, chemistry and physics there are many conflicts and everybody
talks about in the universities yet we are all suppose to gulp it all down
like GOSPEL.

[BroMikey]

The consequence of confusing the situation by the introduction of a rotating
frame of reference is that there prevails a further misinformed belief that the
centrifugal force is merely a product of the rotation of the frame of reference
itself rather than a product of the absolute rotation of the particle relative to the
inertial frame. The latter error leads to the bizarre notion that a particle at rest,
when observed from a rotating frame of reference, experiences a fictitious
outward centrifugal force in the radial direction, even though circular motion
can only induce transverse artefacts. This discrepancy is then patched up with
an even more bizarre argument involving a radial Coriolis force. The argument
runs that since the stationary object, as observed from the rotating frame of
reference, is seen due to its inertia to trace out a circular path, there must exist a
fictitious centripetal force acting upon it which can be justified as being the
resultant of the outward radial fictitious centrifugal force and an inward radial
fictitious Coriolis force.

While this is clearly wrong mathematically as well as being arrant nonsense
in its own right, this is the argument which is nevertheless used in modern
physics in order to mask the fact that both the centrifugal force and the Coriolis
force are real forces


End of story flawed yuppy targeted science

[bistander]

It's not just terminology; it's basic concepts

...
And bi, if you are saying no energy is required to move past the sticky point, which is what you APPEAR to be saying, I would argue, just for the fun of it, that the definition of work may be incorrect. It is defined as force over distance, as you said. I would argue that it is force over time. You cannot move a distance without the elapse of time. Work, however, can be done with no movement over distance. ...

if you are saying no energy is required to move past the sticky point

Nope, that is not what I said.

...
Likely not many will buy this explanation, but there it is.
...

Turion,

Like I said ^^^. I am not surprised that you do not accept classic physics. Why start now, right? You are very wrong. How wide is a point in space?

If you're interested in the truth, please visit a physics discussion forum, talk to a physics professor or read a book on it. History here shows you'll never believe me.

I wanted to see some more tests before appearing to draw a conclusion. But wtf. Did not Sky's recent test support what I've been saying and provide evidence towards proof that you are wrong?

I'm not getting dragged into a big argument here. You say you need to see it on your bench to believe it. Run the test like Sky did. Explain why it does not take less power to turn the rotor with the magnetic neutralization at speed.

Regards,

bi

[BroMikey]

I am not surprised that you do not accept classic physics. Why start now, right? You are very wrong. please visit a physics discussion forum, talk to a physics professor or read a book on it.

I'm not getting dragged into a big argument here.

bi

Discussion? Dragging into an argument? You don't even know the material.
Classical Physics is flawed many times over and your answer is
READ A BOOK? Plz

[bistander]

Data

... Will try and get the rest of the data I wanted. I did shoot a video,but put the camera down while I put coils in the machine and forgot to record the rpm with the coils in place, so just need to start over in the morning.

BTW, did you get a chance to get that data? Will you share it?

bi

[dragon]

Exactly the right thinking, what about inertia, what about gravity, how
about momentum? You can't talk pull in and pull out = 0. These guys
are rambling, keep going Dave.

it's the same ole hat, the electrical freaks ONLY focus on charge and
the physics guys TALK about forces and each group thinks this stuff
exists in a world all buy itself when the project is submersed in all of
it, including what we can't explain and create cute little formula for.

You want TAKE TWO? Naw they don't want take two, just build it and
quite generalizing you sound helpless. Shouldn't work? And it does.

The cure for overcoming these forces was developed back in the 1800's. I talked briefly on this in the last couple posts... no one read them with intentions of learning anything I suppose and yes, Mikey, I am an electronic/physics "freak". Because of those "freaks" from the past and present we have the ability to do all sorts of cool stuff today... I enjoy learning from them so I don't make needless mistakes. Your a good builder Mikey and I respect that, there is no need to be disrespectful to those that are skeptical. Simple answers to questions would go much farther than bursts of sarcasm, disrespect and name calling.

Respectfully...

[bistander]

Breaking magnetic lock

bi, ... With no magnets in place my big machine pulls over 100 amps to break the magnetic lock ...

Hi Turion,

I often wonder why this is such a concern. It only happens on start up. With your generator producing a kilowatt or two of free energy, why turn it off? Just give the rotor a push by hand to get it going and leave it run for a couple of years, or forever.

That question comes to mind every time I see one of those fake videos where the actors are starting up their free energy generator. Why was it off? And often, it runs for a few minutes, and then they turn it off. Why turn it off?

Regards,

bi

[bistander]

Your generator

I was referring to "your generator" in general, not specific to the first prototypes, you know, after you get the bugs worked out.

[BroMikey]

The cure for overcoming these forces was developed back in the 1800's. ...yes, Mikey, I am an electronic/physics "freak".
...there is no need to be disrespectful to those that are skeptical... bursts of sarcasm, disrespect and name calling.

Don't try to correct me for your unwillingness to address the criteria.
Grown men should not pout. Anyway glad you are a thinker just do
some more of it and you will see that the stuff we were taught is
flawed. I don't like it anymore than you do so better go back and
fix what is broken. Don't blame me for your inabilities to stop the
"POLLY WANT A CRACKER" parroting of old flawed science for the
super genius.

[BroMikey]

With two 16” wrenches on nuts at each end of the rotor shaft I can barely break the magnetic lock when no opposition magnets are in place.

Why turn my machine off? . How many times do I have to say that before you get it? With the magnets in place it only draws 12 amps.

Bi is a clown, clowns do not concern themselves with specific criteria
because this is not the goal. Clowns just clown around, jump all over
scatter brain like adding confusion.

Thanks for the repeats Dave I always enjoy them, they are almost sacred.


Happy 4th guys no hard feelings over view points hear?

[BroMikey]

The generator is crap. I have no more time for this.

Yes it is amazing to me when I go back and look at some of my beginnings
and see how poorly the construction tolerances were and this all takes
time and money to order parts install, test.

Plastic (some) can warp on you, cores get misaligned, platforms
twist. This is why I am looking at composite material sheeting.
Otherwise 4" of shock resistance chopping block board, that won't
move. And a 1" OR 1 1/8" Shaft with comparable bearing set to
keep "end play" within 1 thousandths of and inch.

For those who are not mechanics "END PLAY" is the travel of the shaft
end to end. Excessive "end play" can be due to wear and in the
case of a new set of bearings if "end play" exceeds the tolerance
it may be that the bearings are cheap made or to small.

After running the machine 5 hours poor designs suffer "end play"
that is a danger if the magnet eventually strikes the core material.

Dave knows all this. Good mechanical design takes effort.

[bistander]

Data?

Hi Turion,

Are you going to post that data?

bi

... Will try and get the rest of the data I wanted. I did shoot a video,but put the camera down while I put coils in the machine and forgot to record the rpm with the coils in place, so just need to start over in the morning.

BTW, did you get a chance to get that data? Will you share it?

bi

[SkyWatcher]

Hi all, found some energy to wind the 26 strand, 24awg. coil onto the bobbin, seems to fit fine.
Will be marking all the wires next and wiring them to terminals for testing soon.
peace love light

[BroMikey]

Hi all, found some energy to wind the 26 strand, 24awg. coil onto the bobbin, seems to fit fine.
Will be marking all the wires next and wiring them to terminals for testing soon.
peace love light

Nice work Sky, great progress from a bold person.