Anti-gravity

[Gambeir]

That's why you can create a magnetic field anywhere because the dielectric counterspace is everywhere at all time


THAT IS RIGHT - MAGNETIC FIELD CAN BE CREATED ON ANY MATERIAL WITHOUT ANY STEEL OR IRON.
Provided this coil follows special shape and composition.
I cannot give details as this comes from my channeling information and I given word to the person testing them that I will not not disclose those on a forum.
But they work and work excellent

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That's also right Robur because if it were not life would not exist.

What I've called, and indeed what Astrophysicist's have called an accretion plane is, in reality, a pressure mediation as described by Ken Wheeler. This actually get's back to Bugsfly's insight about grinding wheels in my opinion, which if you look at some of his illustrations in the ARV thread they look like what? They look like fan blades and as we all know fan blades are used in jet motors.

The idea here is to figure out how to compress/organize counter-space and in order to create the magnetic field and the electric field; at least that's one reason why. According to Ken Wheeler, if you remove the dielectric you end up with the magnetic. At least I think that's what I recall Ken saying in a recent video I watched. Understanding the compression of counterspace, which is probably not the right term, but understanding how this works as a pressure mediation is half the key to understanding the possibility of life, for without it no life could exist as matter coherency requires the creation of a magnetic field. This means that metals are not a requirement for the formation of a magnetic field because it really has nothing to do with metal.

A biological body is dependent upon the creation of a magnetic field and yet it's also creating an electric field. So the magnetic is not dependent upon the electric as some have tried to market. Just pointing this out in addition to the above and because I've read elsewhere some screwed up logic about how a magnet is simply the product of electricity and that is another criminally inspired shill story designed to keep everyone in the dark.

[Gambeir]

That's why you can create a magnetic field anywhere because the dielectric counterspace is everywhere at all time


THAT IS RIGHT - MAGNETIC FIELD CAN BE CREATED ON ANY MATERIAL WITHOUT ANY STEEL OR IRON.
Provided this coil follows special shape and composition.
I cannot give details as this comes from my channeling information and I given word to the person testing them that I will not not disclose those on a forum.
But they work and work excellent

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About TETRAHEDRON:

Tetrahedron is basically a 3-sided pyramid set. Of 3 3-Sided pyramids in a grid that in the center creates a 4th 3-sided pyramid that is inverted.
May be you GAMBEIR heard of the work by LES BROWN? I read in the document that he made a tetrahedron from coat hanger wire and that tetrahedron reportedly transmuted metal after 3 weeks time. First if i remember right it transmuted lead into something then that something was transmuted after another 3 weeks into almost pure aluminum. I have not tried this myself as I am doing something else right now and after i am done it i will report it in a separate thread and ask for opinions.

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I've heard of Les Brown but don't know anything more. Probably something I read on an archived message board of something. Oh, now I remember, I've seen a few video's with Les Brown quite some time ago; thanks for reminding me.

That vril ship - what difference is it from joe parr's engine?
If i see it right that is showing apxes of tetrahedrons are fitted in the space of electromagnets. So, APEX PASSING ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD. Only question is - that field is self-generated or is generated by an energy feed.
Otis carr's ship has a similar set. There are so called utrons - 2 cones made from perhaps copper set in the magnetic field and another cone-0shaped thing at the center.
So, all 3 seems to be related. I don't know exactly what is it you asking here Gambeir.
Are you asking for comments on vril sahip or hpw it is related to the alexey's device?
I did suggested to make 2 disks for alexey's device with a pyramid grid on them.
May be i should change it and jjust make a lot of small pyramids like on joe parr's engine and fit those instead?
But on joe parr's engine - it is pyramids move past magnets.
On Alexey's device magnets move together with the plates/disks
Are we leaving Alexey's device and going after vril ship instead?

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These drawing are sketchy so we cannot assume the sketch's accurately give us correct notations. We have to reason them out as best we can. However, my insight was to see there is a multiplicative effect with a #3D shape. Flat pyramid shapes and various magnetic gates are #2D and not #3D. That seems to have confused some because obviously these magnetic gates are #3D objects, but they are still #2D depictions, or basically one sided depictions of pyramids or tetrahedrons.

We don't know if they used electromagnets. That could be a simplified explanation passed on from mouth to mouth. Put yourself in the epoch of time of creation to see what is possible and then reason if it makes any sense.

The one thing I've learned since starting all this ant-gravity business is that whatever we think we know is probably wrong. That is to say, the knowledge we think we understand is crafted to be wrong, but seemingly appear right; a de facto criminal form of lying. The complexity of which virtually guarantee's it is not accidental.

I would say that the Otis Carr OTC-X1 was judged dangerous (*by the hidden hands of power) because the utrons have a potential to suggest a kind of understanding about so-called spintronic's. Also, once more in looking at the Ultron's as flat drawings they are what; two pyramids? Can you see that? Two cones drawn in 2 dimension can be mistaken or seen as 2 pyramids joined at their bases.

I'll have to give a little more thought to the whole Otic Carr OTC-X1, and as part of whole story of oppression, but there's a number of cross overs having to do with hyperspace technology that can be seen using comparative analysis.

A Note On Transmutation

Let's assume for just 1 moment that you could build a device that can transmute metal.
Let's assume that this device can be tuned at last crudely to get the result
Let's assume that that device can be build easily and anyone with at last basic high school understanding can build this device.
Let's also assume that this device can't create you a pure metal straight away.
But for example it creates from 100 gramm of Lead it creates you 60-70 grams of Silver Oxide which you then need to reduce to pure metal using chemical reaction with carbon and then clean it

I know it is a lot of assumptions and I know I am off-topic here so please forgive me

All I wish to ask is an opinion.
So, if assume all of those have happened - the question is simple:

How successful it could be to disclose device like that on the internet?

God only know's Robur, the mind control is so fantastically phenomenal that I simply cannot say with confidence. It helps to be putting it out where it's going to be noticed and hopefully somewhat appreciated but even then it's hard saying. I have a lot of trouble just getting people to see objects outside of their predetermined ideas of what they are seeing; that is, seeing a magnetic gate as a 2D depiction of a potentially 3D object.

I think transmutation is one of those things which though obviously real, a natural quality of nature, it is still so foreign to peoples thinking that it's consigned to the realm of impossibility. All you can do, should do, is to try.

Anyways, I'm sure it's possible and doable. You have to hope it will be appreciated by someone out there.

EVEN IF DEVICE DOES NOT PRODUCE PLATINUM GROUP METALS.
I know I mentioned Silver before, but let's assume that it doesn't create any platinum group metals.
Would a person who created such a device be able to successfully distribute it on the the internet

Thank you for reading
I be back in a week.
Still a lot of work needed to do here before I can begin my experiment

Again, all you can do is try but I think the internet is you best option for spreading ideas.

[robur]

My Notes

That's why you can create a magnetic field anywhere because the dielectric counterspace is everywhere at all time


THAT IS RIGHT - MAGNETIC FIELD CAN BE CREATED ON ANY MATERIAL WITHOUT ANY STEEL OR IRON.
Provided this coil follows special shape and composition.
I cannot give details as this comes from my channeling information and I given word to the person testing them that I will not not disclose those on a forum.
But they work and work excellent

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About TETRAHEDRON:

Tetrahedron is basically a 3-sided pyramid set. Of 3 3-Sided pyramids in a grid that in the center creates a 4th 3-sided pyramid that is inverted.
May be you GAMBEIR heard of the work by LES BROWN? I read in the document that he made a tetrahedron from coat hanger wire and that tetrahedron reportedly transmuted metal after 3 weeks time. First if i remember right it transmuted lead into something then that something was transmuted after another 3 weeks into almost pure aluminum. I have not tried this myself as I am doing something else right now and after i am done it i will report it in a separate thread and ask for opinions.

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That vril ship - what difference is it from joe parr's engine?
If i see it right that is showing apxes of tetrahedrons are fitted in the space of electromagnets. So, APEX PASSING ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD. Only question is - that field is self-generated or is generated by an energy feed.
Otis carr's ship has a similar set. There are so called utrons - 2 cones made from perhaps copper set in the magnetic field and another cone-0shaped thing at the center.
So, all 3 seems to be related. I don't know exactly what is it you asking here Gambeir.
Are you asking for comments on vril sahip or hpw it is related to the alexey's device?
I did suggested to make 2 disks for alexey's device with a pyramid grid on them.
May be i should change it and jjust make a lot of small pyramids like on joe parr's engine and fit those instead?
But on joe parr's engine - it is pyramids move past magnets.
On Alexey's device magnets move together with the plates/disks
Are we leaving Alexey's device and going after vril ship instead?

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A Note On Transmutation

Let's assume for just 1 moment that you could build a device that can transmute metal.
Let's assume that this device can be tuned at last crudely to get the result
Let's assume that that device can be build easily and anyone with at last basic high school understanding can build this device.
Let's also assume that this device can't create you a pure metal straight away.
But for example it creates from 100 gramm of Lead it creates you 60-70 grams of Silver Oxide which you then need to reduce to pure metal using chemical reaction with carbon and then clean it

I know it is a lot of assumptions and I know I am off-topic here so please forgive me

All I wish to ask is an opinion.
So, if assume all of those have happened - the question is simple:

How successful it could be to disclose device like that on the internet?

EVEN IF DEVICE DOES NOT PRODUCE PLATINUM GROUP METALS.
I know I mentioned Silver before, but let's assume that it doesn't create any platinum group metals.
Would a person who created such a device be able to successfully distribute it on the the internet

Thank you for reading
I be back in a week.
Still a lot of work needed to do here before I can begin my experiment

[Gambeir]

Hans Jenny (1904-1972) pioneered the study of sound, frequencies, and vibrations which we know as Cymatics.

https://www.tokenrock.com/explain-cymatics-16.html

Ancient Knowledge - Part 1: Consciousness. I recommend the first two minutes of this, not because of story of cymatics which follows the first two mintues, but because of the content of the first two minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCQnQnPmluM&list=PL_23V62xPZKSsb8MmKBowgr811OkPDk8D&index=1

It is an absolute irrefutable fact that a magnetic field can be created anywhere in space. Given that fact alone, is it then possible to use a transducer to read the magnetic fields cymatic frequency and thus to broadcast it and thereby creating a de-facto magnetic field because that's what I'm seeing? What do you people think? If that's possible then what isn't possible?
I wonder if anyone has tried doing such a thing before?

Probably not that hard: Watch the first 7 minutes. Listen to the magnetic field act upon steel via a high gain amp.
The guy doing the science class is phenomenal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4EbJVWhMMY

Look at the Vril Illustrations again. Vril I shown here. Not my work~

https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1494022246025.jpg

Not sure but I'm beginning to think something like I'm suggesting might be where this all began.

[Gambeir]

I was thinking more along these lines phoneboy. For example, the tetrahedron is vectoring the magnetic, no question about that one, so apparently these illustrations have a basis behind them and are probably real. Also, and to my knowledge, no one realized that in recent times, and even now it's not fully realized, which was my point above where people don't see they are only using a 2D version of the magnetic gate, while the tetrahedron is a prism and a 3D shape of a 2D gate. In other words, tetrahedrons can produce propulsive force by vectoring the magnetic dielectric field, which is undoubtedly even more true if you add some juice to contraption.

Alternatively, if you spin or otherwise move that tetrahedron shape through a dipole charge field (because that looks like what it might be doing) what happens? What makes or spins up the dielectric counterspace to create a magnetic field? A magnetic field is a condensed form of counterspace and that exists everywhere at all times, but only manifests itself when torque is applied, or so that's what I've read which seems to have some sense about it.

Understand? Not that I am entirely sure I do either, but I think it sort of makes sense, and so what I surmise is that the outcome will be something like an electr0-magnetic thrust being produced which is vectored off/out of the sides of the tetrahedron shape which results in a repulsion machine. Doing a lot of guessing off the cuff on that right now.

BTW, maybe the Black Sun is just a large round magnet as well.

[Gambeir]

Really wish I could find the image. In the course of browsing I remember coming across a 3d rendering of the Haunebu, the image reminded me of the otc x1. Might be barking up the wrong tree, but are you seeing/referring to correlations between the Haunebu, otc-x1, and Joe Parr's work?

Thanks for replying phoneboy.

Really I just meant I am interested in getting feedback about what others see, which can be anything, because sometimes what others see are invisible to your own self. So I'm just wondering what else others may see in that design and really I'm thinking engineering and theory wise. I'll whip up a small graphic and post it in a little bit.

[phoneboy]

Really wish I could find the image. In the course of browsing I remeber coming across a 3d rendering of the Haunebu, the image reminded me of the otc x1. Might be barking up the wrong tree, but are you seeing/referring to correlations between the Haunebu, otc-x1, and Joe Parr's work?

[Gambeir]

Now let me ask this question; what do you see in this depiction of the Virl II?
This is a serious question. What do you see? Forget the whole idea that it is a supposed illustration of a flying saucer. Use everything you think you know and give answers.

Share what you think because right or wrong does not matter. What matters is contributing. You have no way of knowing what you say or think may trigger something else and that's why I'm asking everyone who is inclined to reply to do so. I can tell you what I see but a detective never leads the witness.

I don't expect immediate answers to everything. What I'm hoping is that by looking at that illustration and thinking about it there will come revelations, some of which I am confident are ones which I am blind to right now, and may always be blind to, as every individual has their own experiences and knowledge.

[Gambeir]

if we look at tests like wilbert smith and others did with spinning magnetic fields,
it is the magnetic intensity AND that gap in them that makes it work better.
so just don't put them to close that they act as one large magnet.
and if you make them removable, you can try 12 and then take out every other one and test it with 6 of them with all the same other hardware so that you don't have to build it all twice

At the beginning of this holiday weekend I managed to hog in a couple questions to Ken Wheeler who was conducting a live question and answer session on Youtube. Wheeler mumbled a response to one question and which has proven insightful, helpful, and something I was overlooking. This post is really about how we all become fixated and how that becomes a repeated parroting error which multiplies until almost nothing else can be seen, and so what I asked was a put as an inquiry when I posted "vacuum polarization?" To which he replied "No, I'm talking about induction." I immediately thought well of course, what was I ever thinking....? Now let's review our understanding of gravity as an inductive process.

Gravity, correctly understood, is the product of inertial acceleration upon matter, and can be seen in a condensed form as the magnets dielectric plane as an accretion disk in a magnet. Gravity is therefore inductive in nature and composed of counter-spatial energies.

This understanding of the true nature of gravity was formulated and understood long ago in Germany. Probably somewhere in the mid to late 1920's judging by the available evidence. Some of which managed to make it to our time. Here then is evidence of that allegation which I hope to make more obvious further along in this post.


http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/html-1/vriltechnology.htm


Induction Propulsion is used in this video to describe these magnetic gate motors. They are the words of the author himself used and it's something I think is significant in itself.
The 3 Types of Magnetic Motors Part 03
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWuXvZFn91Q[/VIDEO]

I want to point something out when watching video's on magnetic induction propulsion systems, and that is the cross correlation between the shape designs of many of these system and that of the Vril Saucer illustration: Namely the tetrahedron shape inside the Vril Saucer, which is fundamentally represented throughout various types of magnetic gates, but without the apparent connect being made between historical evidence and the subsequent invention of 2D type representations of induction propulsion. For example, the classic Vee Gate system would become what in 3D? That's right it would become a Tetrahedron. A tetrahedron is a 3D shape and a Vee Gate is a 2D shape.

Using a pencil, some paper, and a row of tiny flat neo magnets I tested a theory of operation which anyone can repeat. Hopefully with better materials. True inductive propulsion will require better material and more powerful magnets but what I discovered is there is more afoot to the game and if you screw around doing something similar you too find that a 3D Tetrahedron is a magnetic gate and it will validate the magnetic gate designs seen in many of these video's as a sort of inferior 2D interpretation of what a 3D representation of their image would look like. Also let it be known that Andrew Johnson is correct in reporting that the black tetrahedron (illustrated by Michael Schratt) does, in fact, move with the blunt end forwards. Magnetic induction repulsion is vectored out the slopes of the long sides of the tetrahedron best in my own primitive experiments. That is collaborative to the information reported and suggests then that the link is in magnetic induction/repulsion as represented by the tetrahedron shape.

Andrew Johnson TR-3B and the secret space program.

https://www.richplanet.net/richp_genre.php?ref=184&part=1&gen=5

MICHAEL SCHRATT - Secret Man-Made Tech All Along - Secret Space Program Uses Human Technology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYL2qLqbLc0

For Clarification then, a typical Vee Gate is only a one plane of the 4 planes needed to make up a 3D Tetrahedron. Understand? Get off the Addition Subtraction Mathematics and move up to Multiplication

One plus one equals two. Two as in two sides of 4 planes represented in 2D...ah... I meant #3D as in a tetrahedron.
Ray's Magnetic Slingshot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf5oGjwegNs

[Gambeir]

About Dark Matter
I respectfully decline to accept Dark Matter doesn't exist.May be it doesn't exist in a form that is commonly accepted. I say this due to a personal reason that is also a bit private and is not really for this forum.

Essentially conventional astrophysics uses dark matter as one way of explaining counterspace without admitting or explaining anything at all. It has many uses all of which are intended to keep the doors of real understanding closed.

About Black Triangle
I don't know much about about the subject. In USSR time here was a project that my relative once told me about. It was told more like a nice story to a child. I was may be 8 at that time. He said he was working on building ''new super plane that had no wings, no jet engines, but that could fly faster then you can blink and may be go to other planets. That super-ship was powered by 4th state of matter. Which is Plasma. That was all I can remember.

May comment on this at another time but there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that these are man made machines and in no way alien technology. In many ways these are in fact easier to understand in principle than either the Alexey or ARV.

About Man-Made UFO
So called foo Fighters that were supposedly developed by Nazi Germany at the end of WWII. Here are a few old photographs that might be showing those. Victor Schauberger's Imploder that ran on distilled water.
Distilled Water I got from a third party conversation in 2008 with a good friend of mine who sadly died a few years later.

It's even more sad that people support politicians and the military when it's a known and demonstrated fact that they have all the information.

So called AURORA ship or plane that might be powered by a plasma engine. That heats up mercury vapors and accelerates them to 50000 RPM or faster. This is beyond any shed workshop and also highly poisonous.

That is about that I can't add any more.

If people saw what I saw, then they would be in an uproar if they believed that technology was being withheld, but of course about 98% of em have been programmed to think it's just got to be alien. That would be easy to believe given the ox carts we are left to use and the lies the education system tells.

About Gambeir's Camp
If that is so then I am in your camp too. Well, in the most of it. As I already stated I cannot fully agree with everything that Ken Wheeler writes

If you Tesla fan you might have heard about so called Tesla Flying Machine?
Very little if anything known about it. Supposedly it was some kind of gyroscope device or something like that. That would be in any case almost impossible to reproduce. It is even less info then Otis Carr's ship. That at last has a few diagrams.

How can a man who created the "Electron Gun" have done so by way of using a theory he didn't believe in? It's not remotely logical.

If particles existed they would have been weaponized, and because they don't they haven' been, which is why nanoparticles have been created, or at least that's one of the many reasons why.


Cause of utility pole (90 foot ones) collapse still unknown. The narrative is that possibly one or two old poles fell over and took the other 27 newer poles down. Very similar to how the world trade center collapsed as well..
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1lyeaiizZU[/VIDEO]

About Alien Presence.
I don't wish to get into that discussion again. I did before with my channeling infos and that just created an argument. I am not going back on anything I said in the past to you Gambeir on the forum PMS. And what I said to Spacecase0.
That is all for my comments.


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P.S. I am preparing to do casting of some parts for my current project so I might not check back in a while.
Hopefully, when I check back next time I will have design for Alexey's Device Test ready to be shown.

Regarding Alexey's Device Replication And Testing
I have a question to those who are discussing this subject here.
Regarding magnetic set.

Would you think that effect could be increased in power/intensity if amount of magnets was significantly increased?

From 6 to 12 or more.

Fact is I do not know, but my gut tells me no, and that is based on Joe Parr's work and some of my own. I really cannot say without more knowledge. Right now I'd say that you're going to have to apply power. Off hand I'd say look at Brikeland Currents to see how those fields create Transport Tubes and that is the best guidance I can offer as of right now.


Adding this; Donald Scott's book the Electric Sky The Electric Sky book

https://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2009/arch09/090909polarity.htm

The magnetic is the focused/condensed dielectric counterspatial field which is all around us everywhere. That's why you can create a magnetic field anywhere because the dielectric counterspace is everywhere at all time, because if it weren't you yourself probably would cease to exist, just guessing but I think so. Could be that's what's being depicted in Tom Cruise's terrifying version of War of the Worlds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy_uTerw6dA

[spacecase0]

Regarding Alexey's Device Replication And Testing
I have a question to those who are discussing this subject here.
Regarding magnetic set.

Would you think that effect could be increased in power/intensity if amount of magnets was significantly increased?

From 6 to 12 or more.

if we look at tests like wilbert smith and others did with spinning magnetic fields,
it is the magnetic intensity AND that gap in them that makes it work better.
so just don't put them to close that they act as one large magnet.
and if you make them removable, you can try 12 and then take out every other one and test it with 6 of them with all the same other hardware so that you don't have to build it all twice

[robur]

My Answers To All Latest Posts

About Dark Matter
I respectfully decline to accept Dark Matter doesn't exist.May be it doesn't exist in a form that is commonly accepted. I say this due to a personal reason that is also a bit private and is not really for this forum.

About Black Triangle
I don't know much about about the subject. In USSR time here was a project that my relative once told me about. It was told more like a nice story to a child. I was may be 8 at that time. He said he was working on building ''new super plane that had no wings, no jet engines, but that could fly faster then you can blink and may be go to other planets. That super-ship was powered by 4th state of matter. Which is Plasma. That was all I can remember.

About Man-Made UFO
So called foo Fighters that were supposedly developed by Nazi Germany at the end of WWII. Here are a few old photographs that might be showing those. Victor Schauberger's Imploder that ran on distilled water.
Distilled Water I got from a third party conversation in 2008 with a good friend of mine who sadly died a few years later.

So called AURORA ship or plane that might be powered by a plasma engine. That heats up mercury vapors and accelerates them to 50000 RPM or faster. This is beyond any shed workshop and also highly poisonous.

That is about that I can't add any more.

About Gambeir's Camp
If that is so then I am in your camp too. Well, in the most of it. As I already stated I cannot fully agree with everything that Ken Wheeler writes

If you Tesla fan you might have heard about so called Tesla Flying Machine?
Very little if anything known about it. Supposedly it was some kind of gyroscope device or something like that. That would be in any case almost impossible to reproduce. It is even less info then Otis Carr's ship. That at last has a few diagrams.

About Alien Presence.
I don't wish to get into that discussion again. I did before with my channeling infos and that just created an argument. I am not going back on anything I said in the past to you Gambeir on the forum PMS. And what I said to Spacecase0.
That is all for my comments.


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P.S. I am preparing to do casting of some parts for my current project so I might not check back in a while.
Hopefully, when I check back next time I will have design for Alexey's Device Test ready to be shown.

Regarding Alexey's Device Replication And Testing
I have a question to those who are discussing this subject here.
Regarding magnetic set.

Would you think that effect could be increased in power/intensity if amount of magnets was significantly increased?

From 6 to 12 or more.

[Gambeir]

Also let's bring a discussion about Aliens in to this whole topic because it is directly related. Everything from the official sources say that Ufo's are alien machines. Nowhere does any official source acknowledge any Earthly antigravity machine.

Since this is about anti-gravity and because that topic is directly related to Aliens and the official narrative about Ufo's is that they are alien machines, then I think it's appropriate to include the developing meme that 5G is a defense system from Alien Invasion, as well as just discussing whether or not people believe that there's any truth to any of these stories.

Some of you might know who Clif High is. I do and I followed his predictive forecasting for about a decade and found it interesting and useful, but there came a time when Clif himself said he was visited by men in dark suits.

Now I listened to this entire interview, all 2 & 1/2 hours worth.
clif high - Major Anouncement, Changes on the Earth Like You've Never Seen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE5I6acdPD0

A more condensed version of the specific topic of Aliens and 5G as a defense network.
Clif High on possible purpose of 5G (Anti-Alien Effort)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks1FsrmeFrI

Clif high mentions Dr. David Jacobs in these interviews and I've listened to Dr. Jacobs in this highly recommended interview conducted by Sott.net News.

The Truth Perspective: Interview with David M. Jacobs: "Walking Among Us: The Alien Plan to Control Humanity" Sott.net
Sun, 08 May 2016 2 hours long.

https://www.sott.net/article/317893-The-Truth-Perspective-Interview-with-David-M-Jacobs-Walking-Among-Us-The-Alien-Plan-to-Control-Humanity

MP3

https://media.sott.net/srn/20160508ttp-interview-with-david-m-jacobs-walking-among-us-the-alien-plan-to-control-humanity.mp3

OK, so here's the thing. If what I saw wasn't a human made vehicle then we are in one hell of a mess if, in fact, Dr Jacobs and Clif High are correct and I'm wrong. In which case you had better pray to Almighty God that I'm right and that this is nothing but a gigantic Communist/Nazi Billionaire criminal plot instead of the alternative. In either case, the truth is one or the other. Neither of which are especially attractive if we little snooks have nothing more at our disposal than a gas guzzling suv and some religious inspiration to carry us through what lies ahead because rather obviously what is happening all around us, in politic's, in laws and pending legislative acts of high treason, well there's a world of hurt coming your way to a neighborhood near you soon. The only question I have is who is it serving; Aliens or humankinds most ancient enemy, the self proclaimed royalty?

[Gambeir]

Hey Gambier, I don't subscribe to people who profess to know but don't provide any proof thru actual real world experiments.

I do realize that most times I just say stupid things naturally out of habit but once in a while I say them with a purpose. So I grant you that what you say is fair enough, but doesn't the historical context show an almost entirely and completely different view as to how the Universe works?

Look at Henry Steven's brief on the Karl Schappeller Device. It's an important idea he try's to get across in explaining the Aether. The allegation is that science was hijacked and that previous to Albert Einstein there was an entirely different understanding which underpinned the formation of ideas about the way Universe worked.

https://free-energy-info.co.uk/Stevens.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/265027191_The_Karl_Schappeller_Device

If that allegation is true, then what is important are the denials because truth is hidden behind a curtain of denial; pathological liars do this automatically, which includes virtually all criminally minded unethical people. We all know this, I'm not telling anyone anything everyone don't instinctively already know, but you're not a criminal and that's a problem because every criminal instinctively knows that accurate truths, individually parted, cannot explain a whole: Not unless they are joined into a single image. Translated it means that only those who have a complete picture of the whole elephant can use the knowledge and discoveries of six blind men. Every criminal instinctively understands that and seeks to keep the six blind men separated with lies and denials. Every policeman, detective, and investigator knows the game. Others call it conspiracy theory while law enforcement calls it criminal investigation 101.

All this means is that there is another explanation which as Steven's explained was significantly different and that probably explains so-called phenomena such as UFO's. Not because it's necessarily a different physics any more than an elephant is six other animals, but it is a different understanding of physics: There has to be cross correlations in any criminal plot just as the six descriptions of an elephant from six bind men must describe a single animal. Black holes doe exist then, but they aren't what they think they are, they aren't the black holes as described by those who think they understand, and the reason is because the guy explaining one part of the elephant is at it's butt and holding it's tail; don't ya see? So what we need is to get the six bind men to feel the whole creature, but the lies are keeping them apart, and thus the criminal intent is successful because it has to be a criminal intent involved in order for that division to take place. It cannot be accidental, all rational people and all adults seek the truth, and only criminals seek to obscure and obfuscate the truth.

Having now seen a black triangle, having seen what it can do, and now knowing with absolute certainty that the machine is real and not fictional and which I do not believe for one second is anything alien, but rather a human made vehicle, and so some explanation must exist to explain how it works and the only reason we don't have that explanation is that a criminally inspired and intended plot is in effect. There can be no other rational conclusion and criminal malfeasance disguised as national security is probably not something to support if we intend to live as free beings.

In the case of the Alexey Device it can be only one of two things. It's either a fraud or it's real. Saying it's a fraud just allows escape back to a comfort zone where you hold your security blankey and suck your thumb in secure knowledge. Saying it's real means having to explain it one way or the other. Since I and others do know this technology is real and do not believe that aliens are responsible for it, then the odds are strongly in favor of the Alexey being a real working machine and if that's the case let's find an explanation which works regardless of whose toes get pinched in the process.


So going back to the Alexey device the question really becomes can we can link minutia to a wider understanding of how Universe works, and is this one case where doing that implies Wheeler and Steven's are correct?

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Hey Gambier, I don't subscribe to people who profess to know but don't provide any proof thru actual real world experiments.