Keshe, Fraud, Fraud or super-plasma-coated Fraud?

[BroMikey]

Do you have a phone number for me, Bro'?



Ernst.

Sure man I can shoot you a phone number. I deleted me little rant.

What I am saying is you are basing all of your judgments of those

document then that would be like going to the scene of a crime

and ask the killer who did it? That stuff you see is courts is all made

up. Anything to get money from a foundation.

In the case of Keshe he would be treated no differently than Tesla

as he is posing a threat to the current divide and conquer power

play.

Did I do better?

[Ernst]

The Fed's provide and sell coke to the masses here in the USA, provide call girl services, ....

Do you have a phone number for me, Bro'?


Try a bit to stick with the topic of this thread, OK?


Ernst.

[Ernst]

That could explain why Keshe is in Italy now. Not that that matters much on the long run.

Now look at the last 5 posts or so here, see what we could come up with in a matter of days. And still Keshe is (mis)leading his horde of "knowledge seekers".
I think it is the simplicity of the procedures that he describes while explaining in a torrent of meaningless flash-words how extremely high-tech this all is, that attracts people with little knowledge and understanding who want to be a part of some important quest.
It is a little bit the standard Walt Disney movie theme where some ordinary kid gets an important task which will eventually save the world and prove that he is actually someone very special.
Well here is a message to all of you Keshe knowledge seekers:
(seek out the hidden meaning of that )

Ernst.

[SlickDick]

Apparently, the Belgium federal court police wanted to question Mehran Tavakoli Keshe back in April 2014, commissioned by public prosecutor, regarding an investigation about fraud and illegal practice of medicine and experiments on humans.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5adc43O6AoRRUZGcXFsUVJPVlE/

I will not publish the email adress and phone numbers, it is in the enclosed document. So for anyone being a victim of Keshe or his foundation, please contact the federal judicial commissioner in Belgium.

[SlickDick]

Do you or anyone know what the legal structure of their foundation is?

If it is a 501c3, I'm sure that would be in the states and every penny is accountable.

Regarding the legal structure of the "Stichting". It is a in fact a non-profit organisation in Dutch law. A Stichting is its own legal entity without shareholders. It can provide limited liability protection to the managing directors if the Stichting is registerd in the Chamber of Commerce (The Keshe foundation is). A Stichting is not obligated to publish annual financial statements.

Because of the non-profit nature, Dutch law states the capital and revenues can not be paid dole/dividend to the founders or persons part of the organisation (like the board for example). They can however be paid a salary and expenses. Also, no dole/dividend payments to third parties are allowed, other then out of ideally or social purpose.
Any payment wich does not comply with these laws, is an economical offence.

The document http://clearviewpoints.com/Public_no...Lauryssens.pdf (considering the personal and emotional rants, Keshe himself) is describing exactly such an economical offense.



Using the words profit, commercialized, 3% revenue share, offcourse has nothing to do with non-profit.

These all appear real addresses to me, not just a P.O. box. You can view them in G-Maps/street view.


Ernst.

Both adresses are real and exist. I did not wrote PO Box, or letterbox company, because it is not. You Dutch would refer to such construction "P/A - Per adres". It is not uncommon pratice and it is legal. Some accountant and or administration office, offer this service. They provide the financial and administrative bookkeeping service and mail (physical snail mail) handling and forwarding.

[Aaron]

Keshe

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/13583-facts-about-keshe.html

[Aaron]

Keshe

https://www.facebook.com/groups/516335221862070/

Dirk L. posts there himself.

I posted this yesterday: Keshe - Fact or Fiction? - A & P Electronic Media by Aaron Murakami & Peter Lindemann

Just wanted to at least link to both threads.

[Ernst]

Keshe states ......

With that in mind, please read the following document.

http://clearviewpoints.com/Public_notice_to_Dirk_Lauryssens.pdf

Enjoy the read.

What drew my attention in this non-confrontational document is that Keshe threatens Dirk with a psychological evaluation, stating that it is a known fact that Dirk was mentally unstable. First I would never start a company with a mentally unstable person, second the thought of threatening someone with a psychological evaluation would never enter my mind.
That would only happen if someone has experience with that sort of thing, I guess. And that may be some indication that Keshe himself has a history of mental issues.
It surely would not surprise me.


Ernst.

[BroMikey]

BroMikey's reaction when he realised what is the reality of Keshe's nano super duper jumbo stuff.

[VIDEO]watch?v=08i9kvCJvJ0[/VIDEO]

Why dont you stop trolling, there is no factory, if there was, they would not invite you in. There is no adress. Even the foundation's adres is post adres. The BVBA adres is post adres only.

The phone question was a trick question, they have no public phone number(s) for contact.

Naah
all fake just ask Slick he'll tell you everything you need to know..
no phones either ...they must have cut all the lines since the last time I spoke with them...[maybe a religious thing Now]
Factories ?
Slick says No...

thanks Slick ,its good to know such an ultimate authority walks amongst us.
saves a lot of time .

orr does it help perpetuate the same old same old ???
how many years now Slick ??

You guys are all very funny, I mean that, I come here for the chuckles

as well as the info. What you all have not considered is that this

tact with handling the public has been coming on since the 90's.

I remember calling "TANDY" anyone old enough to remember? Well

all I was trying to do is ask their dept heads a question and I was

connected to "THOMPSON CONSUMER ELECTRONICS" that

was the new name. I had an inverter I wanted to work on and

needed a diagram.

One phone exchange to another I went with this well known company.

I thought what is the world coming to? I got everyone except who I

needed, I mean machines. All I got was answering devices.

This is back 25years. Now-a-days you might as well forget being

connected to a real person with big business and my personal opinion

on why is that the values had shifted to where every guy that came

along thought he could get his money back after using the device

for half the year.

The way I see it is these companies got sick of putting up with the

public harassment. Electrical or electronic devices from China don't

even have any substance many times and don't work, try to call them.

So you see we have all been well acquainted with these frustrations

for quite sometime.

I am not saying I like it any better than you do.

[RAMSET]

Naah
all fake just ask Slick he'll tell you everything you need to know..
no phones either ...they must have cut all the lines since the last time I spoke with them...[maybe a religious thing Now]
Factories ?
Slick says No...

thanks Slick ,its good to know such an ultimate authority walks amongst us.
saves a lot of time .

orr does it help perpetuate the same old same old ???
how many years now Slick ??

[Ernst]

Yes, I could translate, but it is not worthwhile.
The most important things you figured out already. It is a Co. Ltd. for the production of energy-panels (whatever that may be), research and education, and administrative services (?).
The ownership is as you said. They actually paid only 1/3 of the shares value. The companies value is nearing - 1 million EUR (that is minus one million).
Then we get some addresses:
The Keshe Foundation: Jubileumplein 3, 6161 SR Geleen (Nederland).
Mehran TAVAKOLI KESHE, Kapellestraat 51, 8573 Tiegem (Anzegem) (Belgium).
Dirk Laureyssens, Grotesteenweg 408 bus 19, 2600 Antwerpen (Berchem) (Belgium).
The keshe power cell technology Co. Ltd., J. B. Charlierlaan 98, 1560 Hoeilaart (Belgium).

These all appear real addresses to me, not just a P.O. box. You can view them in G-Maps/street view.

I think the foundation docs are more interesting.


Ernst.

[SlickDick]

Mikey
I'm not asking for the address to the factory or its phone number so I can send donations and prayer cloths
Its to put an end to this nonsense once and for all .

they Built a thousand units and sent them Out from a factory in the Phillippines ??
where's the factory ? we have Peeps in the Philippines that want to go and buy some units and check them out before they leave...

Chet

Why dont you stop trolling, there is no factory, if there was, they would not invite you in. There is no adress. Even the foundation's adres is post adres. The BVBA adres is post adres only.

The phone question was a trick question, they have no public phone number(s) for contact.

[SlickDick]

Regarding the legal structure.

I have little time, maybe Ernst can translate some text. These docs are from the Keshe power cell technology BVBA, not the "Stichting", i will try to get some documents of the "foundation" part.

Keshe power cell technology BVBA is a commercial limited liability company. Some figures:

https://www.finactum.be/nl/company/BE0819458077/Keshe+Power+Cell+Technology/#

Official notray documents:

http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/tsv_pdf/2009/10/12/09304221.pdf

http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/tsv_pdf/2015/02/09/15021498.pdf

What is interresting is Dirk L owns 5% of the shares. Keshe is the CEO and owns 95%.

Recently there seem to bee issues within the Keshe "group" between Dirk and Keshe.

Pesn has an article about it Keshe Foundation being devastated by Logo Copyright retraction by slandered founder, Dirk Laureyssens.

Maybe this internal conflict has something to do with the paypal problems.

Keshe states

As usual, in the Foundation, we are a peaceful people. We do not confront.

.

With that in mind, please read the following document.

http://clearviewpoints.com/Public_notice_to_Dirk_Lauryssens.pdf

Enjoy the read.

[Tomata]

BroMikey's reaction when he realised what is the reality of Keshe's nano super duper jumbo stuff.

[VIDEO]watch?v=08i9kvCJvJ0[/VIDEO]

[BroMikey]

No problem Ernie

I think you are right about a lot of things and sometimes I get
carried away

I was thinking the same dern thing, why use 50watts of power
through a wire that is rated at 1000 watts plus. If the electric
makes the nano grow up the wire and it takes 3 weeks to start
peculating, why baby it?

Crank that thing up so the lectric gits that nano stuff doin it's thing
real good and real fast? I don't know why a fan is a problem? I had not
thought on if much as far as what might be the best results for
any given device.

Any way the fan blows doesn't really matter, only time will tell.

The thing about this whole Keshe thing is got me thinking he

has taken a simple chemistry trick to gain media attention.

It's got me wondering, why? Because once I see how a corp

handles it's money and how it deals with the public I have a nose

to smell a rat, so let's just put it that way.

All of the rat seem to be hiding under some sort of legal rug and

then there is the obvious, Mr Keshe elevated smug ways of shaking

off any questions. I can see too you know. I like confidence but

sometimes I see more delusion than reality in his classroom talks.

Let's hope he is more than another money grubbing rat hiding

behind foundations and legal red tape.

Whenever you follow the money back you learn what people are like.

I clicked on their donate button for paypal and paypal gives this message:
"This recipient is currently unable to receive money." Most likely Paypal have received too many complaints - not just for donations but for payments as well. When receiving donations by paypal, once $10k or something is reached in total, the receiving party has to disclose what it goes to.