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  • Turion
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    The Garage

    Wish I could be there for the next five days! LOL. I might not build anything, but at least I could help you empty some of those cans...of beer! LOL

    Anything would be better than laying around imbed hacking up carpal day. Going on 10 days now..

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  • ren
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    lol Matt. Good tip.

    Motor is ordered.

    Looking forward to the dismantle.

    Cheers.

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  • Zardox
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    Not seeing it

    Where is it at?

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  • John Panettieri
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    Hi Dave
    Don't have Razor motor, I have other motors to use, Just need to find the time.
    John

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  • Sawt2
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    Please Count Me in to, I have been following along, experimenting has been minimal lately due to moving and the cold weather here in the northeast.
    However i do want to get the razor motor and work along with you guys.
    Appreciate your sharing Matt, Dave and all.


    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    It all comes back to what we said in the beginning

    1. The BEST pulse motor we can find
    We have tried all kinds of different pulse motor builds and what Matt has come up with seems to be the best. But we invite EVERYONE to improve on it or come up with something better.
    2. Running the BEST generator we can find
    We thought that a modified razor scooter motor was going to be the best generator, but it appears that we have found something better that can be built from scratch using off the shelf parts. That's what Matt is talking about here.
    3. Using the BEST switching we can find
    This involves not only running the machine between the potential differences, but increasing those differences as best we can. It isn't the END of the research, it's just the BEGINNING. And it is definitely switching that makes the big difference.
    4. With the BEST flywheel to keep it spinning during off times.
    There are so many different ways to put together a flywheel, it's not even funny. The rotor itself could be a flywheel in some builds. It all depends on the final configuration.

    How about a roll call here. How many folks have actually gotten the razor scooter motor put together and are ready to test it and take the next step? We have considered just PMing those individuals and taking this dark to avoid all the idiots. But we don't want to leave real builders out of this project.

    Dave

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  • mikehull
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    Hi all

    Please count me in.

    This is my first atempt at any physical electronics project. I have had to join a local makerspace to have access to a workbench, but I believe they will have all the equipment I am likely to need.

    I have a motor and wire, but won't be able to start stripping the motor until early next week. Unfortunately with family commitments my bench time will be limited to only a couple of evenings each week. I hope this will be enough to keep up with others on this build.

    Many thanks to Matt and Dave for sharing their experience and time on this project.

    Mike

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  • jettis
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    Matt and Dave,

    I honestly have not built a motor yet, but I would like to so if you can or will include me in on what you have planned would be a great thing.

    -Dave Wing

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  • wantomake
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    All but one

    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    It all comes back to what we said in the beginning

    1. The BEST pulse motor we can find
    We have tried all kinds of different pulse motor builds and what Matt has come up with seems to be the best. But we invite EVERYONE to improve on it or come up with something better.
    2. Running the BEST generator we can find
    We thought that a modified razor scooter motor was going to be the best generator, but it appears that we have found something better that can be built from scratch using off the shelf parts. That's what Matt is talking about here.
    3. Using the BEST switching we can find
    This involves not only running the machine between the potential differences, but increasing those differences as best we can. It isn't the END of the research, it's just the BEGINNING. And it is definitely switching that makes the big difference.
    4. With the BEST flywheel to keep it spinning during off times.
    There are so many different ways to put together a flywheel, it's not even funny. The rotor itself could be a flywheel in some builds. It all depends on the final configuration.

    How about a roll call here. How many folks have actually gotten the razor scooter motor put together and are ready to test it and take the next step? We have considered just PMing those individuals and taking this dark to avoid all the idiots. But we don't want to leave real builders out of this project.

    Dave
    I have all but #3. Just being patient until time to build what Matt post next.

    wantomake

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  • Ted Ewert
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    I have a Razor motor I've been using on another project. What's the hack?
    Sorry, I'll read...
    Last edited by Ted Ewert; 01-28-2015, 01:46 AM.

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  • Turion
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    It all comes back to what we said in the beginning

    1. The BEST pulse motor we can find
    We have tried all kinds of different pulse motor builds and what Matt has come up with seems to be the best. But we invite EVERYONE to improve on it or come up with something better.
    2. Running the BEST generator we can find
    We thought that a modified razor scooter motor was going to be the best generator, but it appears that we have found something better that can be built from scratch using off the shelf parts. That's what Matt is talking about here.
    3. Using the BEST switching we can find
    This involves not only running the machine between the potential differences, but increasing those differences as best we can. It isn't the END of the research, it's just the BEGINNING. And it is definitely switching that makes the big difference.
    4. With the BEST flywheel to keep it spinning during off times.
    There are so many different ways to put together a flywheel, it's not even funny. The rotor itself could be a flywheel in some builds. It all depends on the final configuration.

    How about a roll call here. How many folks have actually gotten the razor scooter motor put together and are ready to test it and take the next step? We have considered just PMing those individuals and taking this dark to avoid all the idiots. But we don't want to leave real builders out of this project.

    Dave

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  • jettis
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    Originally posted by Matthew Jones
    Ya I am going to release it all The motor and driver, as well as the generator which you'll have to build it from scratch. With everything going on its not happening as fast as I would like it, but be patient you won't regret it.



    You don't really need all those batteries.. This can all be done with just basic parts.

    Matt
    I am not quite sure how to incorporate these things into a motor... Is that what you are doing with your motor generator?

    -Dave Wing

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  • jettis
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    Hi Matt, Dave and all,

    I have a question... Has anyone tried to incorporate this circuit below into a normal DC motor? It has recovery as John Bedini's normal splitting the positive and John's gen mode charging. I am still doing testing but it appears to be close to or even over 1:1, with 4 batteries, one should also be able to time pulse current from the two charge batteries to the 24 volt primary to fully recharge the primary batteries. I am currently working in this direction and hope to report on it over the next two days.

    Any thoughts are welcome about this.

    -Dave Wing
    Attached Files
    Last edited by jettis; 01-25-2015, 09:40 PM.

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  • wantomake
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    second motor

    Thanks Matt,
    Thanks for sharing your motor modifications, I know you are busy even with this up and down weather here in the Carolinas.

    I have a second motor which is used to spin the mod generator. But want to build the driver if I can.

    Thanks,
    wantomake

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  • shylo
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    Well I got the vibration issue sorted out. The old wind is as per Matts original except I had modified it.
    I wound it with the 2 coils consisting of one pole, then three, then five 180 deg. apart. I forget how many turns. (the original)
    I then skipped a pole and wound it again,then skipped another pole and wound it again.....so every other pole has Matts winding on it, so every other comm section is producing output.
    It puts out 50vdc when spun with the new wind ,which I used a single strand of I think is around 17-18 awg (just under 1mm) Sorry no 24awg 3 strands.
    When I attach the old to charge a battery , the new drops in rpm and gets warm, but does charge the battery. Not as much as I use on input though.
    Maybe this does'nt apply here ..I just like to try different things.
    artv

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  • Zardox
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    After putting my motor back together I did a short run. It was pulling about 1.8 amps and even useing a peice of wood to try and slow it down I never seen it go above 1.9 amps. I was useing a couple of drill batteries and the voltage was dropping pretty quick. I still have no idea what the rpm was but it seems pretty good. I did not do any adjusting on the timeing.
    I bookmarked that meter you suggested but I think I had better hold off for now as I am not sure what all I am going to need for the rest of the system. Is lead acid batteries a must have or are other types ok? And how big is nessesary?

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