Basic Free Energy Device

[i_ron]

It usually only takes 10 days or so and I am on the east coast.

Matt

are you ever lucky, my deliveries usually run to 5 weeks. And I am on the west coast. My May 2nd order for a K type thermocouple for my brass foundry is not here yet!

But that said, the boosters came through in 6 days, a record!

Ron

[Matthew Jones]

Greetings Matt and Dave,

Very intrigued by your work on this and prior threads. Jumping in on this in a simple mode with an inverter. Have ordered recommended boost converter and initially intend to perform a series of tests for quantifying the actual performance for baseline data, but will have to wait until the China freight arrives. Ready to buy US, but pricing is over the top, if the components can be found without reinventing the wheel.

Appreciate your sharing of ideas and actual builds. As always, will share my data and results.

In for the ride as summer time permits,
Yaro

It usually only takes 10 days or so and I am on the east coast.

Matt

[yaro1776]

Ready to Buckle Up

Greetings Matt and Dave,

Very intrigued by your work on this and prior threads. Jumping in on this in a simple mode with an inverter. Have ordered recommended boost converter and initially intend to perform a series of tests for quantifying the actual performance for baseline data, but will have to wait until the China freight arrives. Ready to buy US, but pricing is over the top, if the components can be found without reinventing the wheel.

Appreciate your sharing of ideas and actual builds. As always, will share my data and results.

In for the ride as summer time permits,
Yaro

[Wistiti]

As i am still waithing to receive my boost converter, i continue to play with this system.

I find it quite effective for restoring sulfated battery in the tird position!
See the picture; 2 good battery for the 24v, 6 sulfated smaller battery// for the 12v (3rd position) and an inverter with re-emf charger charging another batt as the load!

It is a real interesting system to play with! Can't whait to receive the boost module to see the difference...

Ciao!

[i_ron]

I_ron,

You guys are going to have to cut me some slack when it comes to my big generator.

I had a medical issue a while back and my Neurologist put a halt to my driving for the last seven months. I still haven't gotten a medical release, so I am without transportation except when my wife is home on the weekends. My machinist came and picked up the generator frame to mount a slightly larger razor scooter motor so I can increase the rpm's and boost the output a bit. He still has my machine and I have to work out a way to get it back. He lives right down the road from my old house which is 2 1/2 hours from where I live NOW, so it may be another week before I get it back and can make a video of inputs and outputs that will satisfy everyone. I have video of it running five 200 watt bulbs and a 60 watt bulb, but that's not quite the same as putting meters on it. I haven't forgotten. Matt wants data too, for some others stuff we are doing, so I'm working on it.

Dave,

We can live with that. Thank you for sharing your current situation with us. We all (I am sure!) wish you good health. What you propose is very positive and I look forward to this information.

All my working life I built stuff from detailed plans. So am not good at building things from vague and nebulous ideas only. I can visualize items in my mind and draw them and build them but it has to be fairly concrete to begin with. I have always considered myself an improver, not an inventor. Good pictures and even videos then are a big help.

And as I said, it is your option if you want to only send this out to a select few.

Take care,

Ron

[Turion]

I_ron,

You guys are going to have to cut me some slack when it comes to my big generator.

I had a medical issue a while back and my Neurologist put a halt to my driving for the last seven months. I still haven't gotten a medical release, so I am without transportation except when my wife is home on the weekends. My machinist came and picked up the generator frame to mount a slightly larger razor scooter motor so I can increase the rpm's and boost the output a bit. He still has my machine and I have to work out a way to get it back. He lives right down the road from my old house which is 2 1/2 hours from where I live NOW, so it may be another week before I get it back and can make a video of inputs and outputs that will satisfy everyone. I have video of it running five 200 watt bulbs and a 60 watt bulb, but that's not quite the same as putting meters on it. I haven't forgotten. Matt wants data too, for some others stuff we are doing, so I'm working on it.

[Matthew Jones]

Matt,

the boost converter running on the potential difference has smoothing caps on its output, so does it matter what kind of load you put on it? I suppose It's the pulses that allow for this to happen, so is a motor as a load needed to get the pulses or are the pulses from the boost converter enough to make the series back charging happen in your opinion?

regards,
Mario

Should be enough. Just get one running and then we can start improving it.

No one has any long runs yet to look at.

Matt

[Mario]

Matt,

the boost converter running on the potential difference has smoothing caps on its output, so does it matter what kind of load you put on it? I suppose It's the pulses that allow for this to happen, so is a motor as a load needed to get the pulses or are the pulses from the boost converter enough to make the series back charging happen in your opinion?

regards,
Mario

[Mario]

Mario,
This is something I can start experimenting with. Dave said a lenzless generator that can work with the modified Matt motor.(hope I quoted right) Having a lot of the round microwave magnets and scrap metal, I may build a smaller version to test with.

I'm not going to discuss how to build it cause this is new area of learning for me. I've studied Thane Heinz videos with the acceleration under load method. As for conventional generators, I have a bone yard of them. Like my battery bone yard.

wantomake

Wantomake,

I've never built one of these type of gens, only the kromrey/G-field type. I have no idea if this one will make a difference, I suppose you still need the same parameters as a kromrey type setup for it to work, coil type, low impedance load etc….

regards,
Mario

[Matthew Jones]

....
Of course you realize that the announcement made of 120 watts in and 800 watts out, cop 6.6, is what brought this forum to life.

People are waiting for information as to that setup... not diversions.

So I feel it is safe to ignore the start up forums as the mother lode is here. And you are in control of that

Ron

And they'll be waiting a while.

Matt

[Matthew Jones]

say if you were running a 24/48v system....is it not possible to run a 2nd boost converter off the 24v battery that was outputting say 72v and then run another inverter inbetween that 72v and the 48v system? or would that cause a short???

Yes that would be possible and all combinations of potential differences becomes open.
If you wanna try thing and you unsure post a makeshift schematic and we'll try to help.

But what I suggest is to get a simple setup going with 12 volt difference and a boost circuit on the load.

I cannot stress it enough if you can make that one work you make any of them work. Its the concept of keeping the voltage high enough after the load to resupply the serial bank through the ground leg is what your after. Period.
This is not something easily measure but you can see it. You get the thing running and it keeps running. Now it can be measure but you need mp probes for scope to look at the wave form.

I am trying to get some time allotted this week so I can set one up and try to show you what can happen.

Matt

[Peter Lindemann]

Thanks!

Thanks Matt,

OK, I bought a bunch of these and will chime in again after my project gets a little farther along. I'm really glad this thread is working so well now!!

Peter

150W DC DC Boost Converter 10 32V to 12 35V 6A Step Up Power supply module | eBay

We know these work and can be paralleled safely with a common cathode diode array.

Matt

[i_ron]

conundrum

I don't know what the solution is, and maybe some others should throw out their opinion as to where we go with all this.

Dave

Well the 3 bat forum was entirely devoted to the dead battery in position three. There is very little additional information that is relevant to the present build. If you wanted to sum up the important items and repost them here, that would make sense, along with a disclaimer of what was no longer of any importance.

Of course you realize that the announcement made of 120 watts in and 800 watts out, cop 6.6, is what brought this forum to life.

People are waiting for information as to that setup... not diversions.

So I feel it is safe to ignore the start up forums as the mother lode is here. And you are in control of that

Ron

[jettis]

When John B first posted the SG, instead of building it according to John's instructions, everybody took whatever crap they had in a pile and tried to build an SG out of it, and then when it didn't work, they blamed John or said he didn't know what he was talking about. And then more people jumped on board and started talking about all kinds of changes and modifications to the original that THEY were doing and when new people came aboard they were totally confused and didn't know which end was up...especially the people who had little experience with this kind of stuff. Let's not let that happen here.

Now skywatcher had the right idea. He wanted to talk about running the inverter off the potential difference, so he started his own thread on that topic. And we have jumped aboard there because that was something we were already doing. But now we are talking about that here too.

Yes it is a Basic Free Energy Device, but I think the output is limited by what the inverter puts out. Not that it isn't a great system, because it IS, and Bob French and I have been messing with it for months, but unless you are going to buy a PILE of batteries, you are limited in your potential output.

Now a MOTOR can run on the potential difference and the shaft of that motor connected to the PROPER generator can put out way more useful power than the inverter, and that is where I wanted to focus here.

There are really only a few devices that you get ANY benefit out of running between the potentials. A motor (or motor coils), an inverter, and a transformer. All THREE of these topics should be explored.

BroMikey started a thread on splitting the positives, and right now he is showing how to wind Matt's motor to run it on the potential difference. All three of these threads are overlapping and as some of us are contributing on all three, it is getting confusing trying to keep track of what information has been posted where, and some things I think people should already know were posted on the 3 Battery Generating System thread.

I don't know what the solution is, and maybe some others should throw out their opinion as to where we go with all this.

Dave

All,

I have a suggestion if you want to archive important posts that have important info, points or advancements that you would like to save and or reference all in one place. Add them all to the your first post, on this thread by editing and adding the info there so it does not get buried.

Or start a new thread and keep it locked with only a few chosen people to act as administrators, that only they can post info pertaining to the advancement of this particular topic by posting all the relative information in the first post, with post number references and or links and keep adding to the list progressively, entry after entry as this thing advances and all will be archived in one simple location. I have seen it done like this on other forums and think it is pretty slick.

Here is an example...

Dieselgate: VW Diesel Emissions Scandal - Information & FAQ - TDIClub Forums

Dave Wing

Did not see Brodie G's post until after posting my post.

[Brodie G]

I think it would be nice to have a new stickied post that was locked and that covered everything in one single post, and update that stickied post as new information becomes available

It could have 3 sections involving motor, inverter, and generator... which motors to use and how to wind them diagrams... ways to utilize the spike from the windings.... potential generator options that could be used along side( something that was purchaseable or easily modifiable would be nice).... such as a smart drive motor or so on... although im assuming lenzless generator is the way to go with this design

Discussions on using different battery voltages and how the system changes when you use higher or lower battery voltages

Advantages of using a boost converter

Pictures and videos with parts and specifications all on the sticky would be a good place if you are wanting good replications

battery swapping dicscussions and so on.... it doesnt need to be super in depth off the start as long as it continues to get updated in the future

this might not solve all the wrong thread chatter, but will be nice for any newcomer to look at/ be told to look at sticky instead of answering most of the already answered questions