Basic Free Energy Device

[wantomake]

Good or bad?

Well here is what it ran for 2 hr 20 min.

Time. #2. #1. #3. #2 & #1. Load. Inverter. Converter
8:45. 12.67. 13.31. 12.65. 25.94. 0.1 A. 1.6 Amps 5.3 Amps
8:55. 12.91. 14.13. 12.11. 27.06.
9:05. 12.85. 14.13. 12.21. 26.99
9:15. 12.81. 14.16. 12.19. 26.98
9:25. 12.79. 14.20. 12.20. 26.99
9:35. 12.78. 14.21. 12.21. 26.99
11:05. 12.72. 14.28. 12.02. 27.00

Load was CFL 15 watt at 0.1 amp.
Inverter across positives 1.6 amps.
Boost converter was pulling 5.3 amps.

Hope these numbers help. Will try higher wattage tomorrow with cooler temperatures maybe.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, hi turion, not sure who your replicating remarks are aimed at, though for me, i am not replicating at the moment, though i am making experimental observations that support what you folks are doing.
And that is this simple fact, when electrical current goes through a load, it is not used up like gasoline in a gas tank, it comes out the load ready to be reclaimed.
Maybe that's why i stated in my thread, this is a light hearted thread, for good reason.
peace love light

[Wistiti]

One or two building.
Three or four replicating with the WRONG parts.
Everyone else watching and waiting.

Or like me, waithing to recieve all the parts....

[wantomake]

Same events

Matt,
The same in my setup. The batt1 is charging, but batt2 is slowly dropping one 10th of a volt each ten minutes or so. Charge batts3 holding steady. Only load on inverter is 15 CFL. Will post all the numbers later tonight. Letting it run.

After getting the inverter and boost converter balanced, then tweaking a little afterwards, the voltages stabilized.

Batt2 is one battery.
Batt1 is one battery.
Batt1 and Batt2 are in series.
Batt3 is in parallel with six other batteries. Solar bank no sun charging.
Inverter is 2000 watt.
Boost converter is 150 watt.

[Turion]

As Usual

One or two building.
Three or four replicating with the WRONG parts.
Everyone else watching and waiting.
The only thing missing is the usual naysayers, but THIS time they are staying in the woodwork or THEY will look stupid.

[Matthew Jones]

I decided not to make another clip of the same thing. I won't know for sure but I am pretty sure none of the batteries lost voltage. Not to say they didn't discharge at all, I would need to measure there capacity to know that. But I'll figure it out in the morning, the numbers and such. I'll run a test against it and see what regular discharge for the same period would cost.

What I did notice was the voltage of the batteries just moved around. At one point I had the serial batteries charging and then switched it several time just with a little turn of the screw.

Couple of days I'll do a bigger test like 100 watt or so, see if we can balance that out.

All that said I have noticed everybody and their mother is watching this thread. Like I said before its a simple enough thing to setup. More numbers and results that come in the better we can make this setup. but feel free do it from armchair if you need to.

Matt

[wantomake]

Circuit

Matt,
Got it. Thanks so much. Will do a setup after the desert heat here in Oakway, South Carolina cools down!!!

[Matthew Jones]

Matt,
Good video but as you said if anyone needs a circuit, and I do, you could draw one. Thanks btw.

Tried to set up a test run, but the shop heats up bad in afternoon hours. Will try again when cools down some.

Will head to Lowes for the 450 watt inverter. Will check for continuity between input and output before connecting to positives.

Almost ready,
Thanks again.

Just adjust the output of the boost converter to about 1 volt above the serial bank. So if the serial bank is at 25.00 volt have to boost converter put out about 26v.

[Matthew Jones]

Matt,
Good video but as you said if anyone needs a circuit, and I do, you could draw one. Thanks btw.

Tried to set up a test run, but the shop heats up bad in afternoon hours. Will try again when cools down some.

Will head to Lowes for the 450 watt inverter. Will check for continuity between input and output before connecting to positives.

Almost ready,
Thanks again.

Ok I'l get that together for ya.

Matt

[wantomake]

Good video and idea

So yesterday I ran 50 watt load all day and lost quite a bit power out of the batteries. I didn't expect anything else. But yesterday during the video I made a suggestion on how to hold down battery 3 with the boost converter.

Today I am using an inverter for a 10 watt load and using the boost to return about 2 watts to the positive side of the serial bank.

I think I have found a bit of a balance. I have been checking while this video uploads and it seems pretty stable.

I'll film again this evening so we can see the results.

https://youtu.be/j6gj3rDgMV4

Matt

Matt,
Good video but as you said if anyone needs a circuit, and I do, you could draw one. Thanks btw.

Tried to set up a test run, but the shop heats up bad in afternoon hours. Will try again when cools down some.

Will head to Lowes for the 450 watt inverter. Will check for continuity between input and output before connecting to positives.

Almost ready,
Thanks again.

[Matthew Jones]

One other thing that has occurred to me through the day is the difference in the signals. The inverter is pulling power at a certain rate in small surges to create an overall 60hz, and the boost circuit is returning it at another frequency. Not sure what that is though. Plus the boost converter is only sending current at 1 volt above the serial batteries voltage.

Everything is still running real stable.

Matt

[Matthew Jones]

It appears, from what I gathered from your last video, that we are doing the same thing with different approaches. The only difference is your using an external boost where I've incorporated the boost into the primary circuit. I saw your motor as the integrated boost circuit and tried to emulate its actions as it passed over the brushes by using a coil and directing it's flow. Interesting....

I am just trying to keep it simple for the people who do not have the electronic ability.

I have gone into the garage several times already this morning to see how its running, so far so good, very stable with a small fluctuation in voltages.
The inverter is pulling about 1.3 amps from side to side and the boost is pushing 1.5 amps back to the primaries. Lots of modulation from the inverter.
I doubt much of a gain over the long run but so far no visible loss in battery voltage.

I'll post again this evening.

Matt

[dragon]

It appears, from what I gathered from your last video, that we are doing the same thing with different approaches. The only difference is your using an external boost where I've incorporated the boost into the primary circuit. I saw your motor as the integrated boost circuit and tried to emulate its actions as it passed over the brushes by using a coil and directing it's flow. Interesting....

[Matthew Jones]

Another Test

So yesterday I ran 50 watt load all day and lost quite a bit power out of the batteries. I didn't expect anything else. But yesterday during the video I made a suggestion on how to hold down battery 3 with the boost converter.

Today I am using an inverter for a 10 watt load and using the boost to return about 2 watts to the positive side of the serial bank.

I think I have found a bit of a balance. I have been checking while this video uploads and it seems pretty stable.

I'll film again this evening so we can see the results.

https://youtu.be/j6gj3rDgMV4

Matt

[Wistiti]

Dragon,

Have you considered replacing your inductor with an inverter? The inverter Primary might serve the same purpose as your coil and it is already being pulsed as the inverter regulates it's DC input. Plus you can use the inverter output to run a charger to replenish your other batteries.

I'm living off-grid too and I have found that if I run an inverter between the 24V+ of my main bank of batteries (charged by solar) and the 12V+ of another bank with the two banks tied at the Negatives, then 1) the 12V bank charges, 2) part of the charge is returned to the 24V bank, and 3) I get to use the inverter's output for "free" while it's doing this. It's just the 3BGS with the Solar added. BUT I use the energy twice, once as it runs the inverter (and is collected in the 12V bank) and then again after the 12V bank is charged and I put the same inverter on it directly. You can effectively almost double your available energy without buying more solar panels or batteries (except to make the 12V bank).

If you try this, be advised that if the 24V bank is at a very high level and the 12V is low, then the difference between them may place the DC input to the inverter beyond its paramter specs and shut it down or blow a fuse. I have found that early morning when the panels are not yet fully charging the batteries is a good time to charge the 12V set. From noon on, on a sunny day, I have to run my air conditioner to keep the 24V bank low enough to run the inverter for charging the 12V set "for free" while running other devices off the inverter. The greater the load on the inverter the faster it charges the 12V bank. I usually charge the 12V set in the morning when needed and let the 24V set charge from noon on. With the Solar Tracker by Bedini it can charge up to over 30V and go "into the green" (fully charged conditioning mode) in a few hours on a sunny day. Overcast days take longer, but can still happen that same day. I have been surprised to see then in the green on very dark days with a little rain. I have 650Ah of 24V and 800W of panels.

Good luck,

Bob

Hi Bob.
what is the power (watt) of the boost converter you use? your load seem to be big! I suspect you did not use the 150w Matt had shown few post ago..?

Thank you for sharing your experiment!