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  • yaro1776
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    Initial Test Run with DC Load

    Greetings Gentleman,

    Accomplished the first test run of the booster circuit with a 6 watt dc bulb load. The basic arrangement used 3 NAPA Tractor Batteries (one turned out to be way weaker) and adjusted the converter to a stable voltage that allowed for a 1 hour test run.

    Measured the amperage between batteries position 1 and 2 along with amps between 1 and booster converter using externally powered Hall type amp sensors.

    Mucked around a bit for a stable system and decided to use a booster voltage of 13.64v where the weaker battery worked fine. Not perfect but a good start.

    Time B1 B2 B3 Boost A1 A2
    Start 12.70 12.85 12.52 13.64 0.0 0.0
    6:53 12.20 12.51 13.31 13.64 0.64 0.65
    7:11 12.20 12.51 13.46 13.64 0.63 0.74
    7:31 12.18 12.51 13.68 13.64 0.65 0.70
    7:53 12.15 12.51 13.94 13.64

    Resting voltage after 1 hour - B1 12.50, B2 12.77, B3 12.78

    Discharge B3 (Charge Battery) down to 12.20 volts with 8 watt load for 1:21 hrs and rest B3 for 3 hrs with final voltage at 12.52 - same as starting point. Ah value is not an accurate reflection due to initial setup time

    As an end test cross check on the amperage draw used an 8 watt bulb on B1 and B2 for several minutes to stabilize voltage. B2 at 12.51v and B1 at 12.17v - close to both test end run volts. Rest voltages returned to above noted values.

    Attached are test assembly pic and .pdf's of real time amps at noted data times - quality not great here but will correct.

    Happy 4th,
    Yaro
    3BS 1.pdf

    IMG_20160704_073809_805.jpg
    Last edited by yaro1776; 07-05-2016, 10:26 AM. Reason: TYpo - Reverse B1 and B2 values for rest voltage

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  • SkyWatcher
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    Hi all, Hi wistiti, you mean the re-emf charger circuit, if so, yes that circuits works really well.
    Been using it today with 2 laptop power supplies in series for 27 volts input, charging three 12 volt tractor batteries in parallel, using 13 watts input.
    It's going to be a week or so till my boost converter gets here, so i'm trying some different things out.
    peace love light

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  • Wistiti
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    We go camping this week-end and i use the circuit for charging 2 marine bat with 2 smaller battery. It work really well!!! 😀👍
    Attached Files

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  • bobfrench@fastmail.fm
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    Hello fellow builders,

    Yesterday evening I tried a run with a 24v/12V split positive setup with 2 standard DC motors in series spinning 2 magnets across 2 generator coils (30AWG). The gen coils/bridge rectifiers’ putout started with about 14.5-16V DC then lowered depending on rpm (which slowed down as the potential difference dropped). But the gen output was always higher than the potential difference.

    The motors were between B2 and B3 positives. B1 and B3 negatives were tied per normal. The gen coils power was placed across the positives as well.

    I was hoping the higher voltage from the gen coils would boost the over all current flow. I stopped the test when I went to bed and made the last measurement today around noon.

    Results:

    Start/2146 2200 2230 2300 1240/Stop
    B1 12.53 12.32 12.29 12.27 12.48 (-.05)
    B2 12.53 12.32 12.29 12.26 12.47 (-.06)
    B3 12.41 12.81 12.87 12.93 12.53 (+.12)

    The Primary bank lost .11V and the charge battery gained .12V. So if we replace the standard DC motors with 2 pulse motors, we should be in the money. I wish I knew of some smaller DC motors that have 4 brushes and an even number of poles on the rotor. The Razor Scooter motor seems a bit big for such few batteries, although it should be awesome on a larger system.

    Also I’ve started attaching an earth ground to the tied negatives. I don’t think it can hurt and maybe it will help, after all, the system is being pulsed. I wonder if I might need a diode. (?)

    The pic is of the next test with 2 batteries as charge batteries. That test ended with the 2 charge batteries gaining slightly less than the Primaries lost. B1 -.016V, B2 -.15V, B3A +.13V, B3B +.15V, a net loss of .03V.

    Good Luck,

    Bob
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  • Matthew Jones
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    Originally posted by wantomake View Post
    Thanks Matt,
    Yes the one I've spotted has fuse protection. 900 watts is great for me to experiment with.

    Happy 4th.
    Most of them you have to look at the amperage. They vary if the current is 10 amp and the voltage is 12-60 vdc output and it says 600 watts, thats only good if you pushing 60 volt. But if you pushing 24 volt out then you can only go to 240 watt.
    You have know that, because it limits your load ability on the system.

    Matt

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  • wantomake
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    Boost converter

    Thanks Matt,
    Yes the one I've spotted has fuse protection. 900 watts is great for me to experiment with.

    Happy 4th.

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  • Matthew Jones
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    Originally posted by wantomake View Post
    Happy 4th to all.

    I fried my boost converter. Will try to order Bromikey one. Would rather order US distributor if possible don't like waiting for china snail mailing.

    Did get good long and useful runs from the nine battery bank disconnected fron solar panels. I used the one primary battery setup(4 batteries in parallel) to maintain the charge battery(5 batteries in parallel) with the 2k watt inverter as load. Yes was very difficult to adjust that pot to balance the primaries and charge sides. Only connected the inverter to the (5) charge batteries. 65 watts on the inverter for several hours was a good run.

    Therefore, I think a good quality boost converter that sits on your bench like a power supply is best to run my setup and use during night or winter clouded days.

    Sorry no data or pics.
    Amazon sells a bunch of these things. Search "Drok Dc boost converter".

    Matt

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  • wantomake
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    Burnt booster

    Happy 4th to all.

    I fried my boost converter. Will try to order Bromikey one. Would rather order US distributor if possible don't like waiting for china snail mailing.

    Did get good long and useful runs from the nine battery bank disconnected fron solar panels. I used the one primary battery setup(4 batteries in parallel) to maintain the charge battery(5 batteries in parallel) with the 2k watt inverter as load. Yes was very difficult to adjust that pot to balance the primaries and charge sides. Only connected the inverter to the (5) charge batteries. 65 watts on the inverter for several hours was a good run.

    Therefore, I think a good quality boost converter that sits on your bench like a power supply is best to run my setup and use during night or winter clouded days.

    Sorry no data or pics.

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  • Wistiti
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    Originally posted by Wistiti View Post

    Ps...: When it happen the sound change to a "hiiiiisssssshhhh"....
    I mean by that the primary go down to a certain point where the sound of the re-emf charger change to a "hiiiisssshhhh!" and when it happen the primary voltage stop to go down and it start to climb!!!

    Dont have the time for long run test.... only 2 hours and it is still raise. More test have to be done.

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  • Wistiti
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    My load is the re-emef charger...

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  • Wistiti
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    🌞

    Originally posted by Matthew Jones View Post
    It must be hard on them dogs to pull that heavy sled, but they got there at least. LOL

    Matt

    Ps...: When it happen the sound change to a "hiiiiisssssshhhh"....
    Attached Files
    Last edited by Wistiti; 07-01-2016, 02:38 AM.

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  • Matthew Jones
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    Originally posted by Wistiti View Post
    Hi to all the builders here!
    I finally recieve my boost converter! (it take more than 1 month!!!) This little module are really greath things! I have play with it a bit, but now i'm in vacations with my familly so no much time on it...

    I have something i whant to try with this... i will show you guys when i have finish and test it.

    just letting you know im still on it!
    Ciao!
    It must be hard on them dogs to pull that heavy sled, but they got there at least. LOL

    Matt
    Last edited by Matthew Jones; 06-30-2016, 09:01 PM.

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  • i_ron
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    motor

    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    i_ron,

    I don't believe what you suggested will work. Here's why I believe that.

    Dave
    OK, thanks Dave for that explanation... makes sense!

    Good to hear the unit is back, look forward to the numbers

    Ron

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  • Wistiti
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    Hi to all the builders here!
    I finally recieve my boost converter! (it take more than 1 month!!!) This little module are really greath things! I have play with it a bit, but now i'm in vacations with my familly so no much time on it...

    I have something i whant to try with this... i will show you guys when i have finish and test it.

    just letting you know im still on it!
    Ciao!

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  • OrionLightShip
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    Originally posted by Matthew Jones View Post
    That looks like my next door neighbor when I lived in Rutherford County, NC

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