Basic Free Energy Device

[i_ron]

He's been in the hospital with some gall bladder thing that liked to kill him.

Matt

Well then, time to get the information out then, don't you think?

Ron

[i_ron]

Thats a terrible thing to accuse David of. Romero put out fake info for people to copy made false claims and claimed the NSA pressured him to do it or some bull$****. David has only reported his progress. He has never given any details and so far as I am concerned he shouldn't.

He's been in the hospital with some gall bladder thing that liked to kill him. You should go f**k yourself with statements like that.

Matt

Well why didn't you post that to the group before now?

Jeez, to get anything out of you people is like pulling teeth!

And you only respond to rudeness... it worked again.

Ron

[wantomake]

Get well soon

Yes our prayers are with you.

We do hope all goes well as you recover.

Not worked any on the setup lately but want to finish this idea you and Matt have shared with us.

So get better and thanks,
wantomake

[BroMikey]

Dave did say something about a health issue so I pray for this young
man today as he is recovering from the mentioned sickness.

God Bless you Dave. I worked at a hospital is the late 70's and early
80's and there are alot of nice people that work there. The people
alone will lift you up.

Our prayers are with you. I want you to know i can't get the primaries
to go down fast at all like when I go straight off an inverter. The primaries
are held up some how and I am running around 1.3amps thru the Mod Mtr
right to battery bank 3.

I am trying to get more time to make runs but so far I have run 2 primaries
and 2 in parallel then swap. The voltage is so high I am going to have to
build a generator onto the Mod Mtr to get the drain, so far like this it looks
so very exciting. The voltage is higher and I am draining some off for
minutes here and there hoping to get it down. See my problem


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[Matthew Jones]

Post 841, 26 05, it is now August 2nd ... another Romero?

Ron

Thats a terrible thing to accuse David of. Romero put out fake info for people to copy made false claims and claimed the NSA pressured him to do it or some bull$****. David has only reported his progress. He has never given any details and so far as I am concerned he shouldn't.

He's been in the hospital with some gall bladder thing that liked to kill him. You should go f**k yourself with statements like that.

Matt

[i_ron]

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Finally, I rebuilt it to its present form. The motor runs on a modified 3BGS circuit so that better than 80% of the energy used to run the motor is recovered, but even WITHOUT THAT, the results are enviable.

It's currently putting out around 800 watts, and running on around 120 watts. I say AROUND 120 watts, because it speeds up under load, so the amp draw goes down when the load is added. That's a COP >6 WITHOUT considering the fact that we get back MOST of the power used to run the motor with the circuit we are using. When you factor THAT in, and assume only 50% recovery using the 3BGS circuit, the COP goes up to 12.

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The really interesting thing is, we have TWO other projects that I am more excited about than I am about THIS one. One is Matt's motor/generator, and the other doesn't use a motor at all to produce energy. It's all batteries and solid state.

Dave

Post 841, 26 05, it is now August 2nd ... will there ever be some information?

Ron

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liber63,

If you had 6 batteries in Position 3 you could have 3 charging while you used 3 in a 3BGS setup to do work, then swap out the 3 charged ones with the ones you just used. (?)

Good luck,

Bob

[liber63]

Bobfrench, the more batteries you put in position 3 the better results you 'll have. But it's not very practical unless you think of something I haven't.
I also remember Peter said that if you are charging the same group of batteries at the same hour every day, you use way less energy than you used the first day of charging. If you stop that for a weekend, let's say, then the phenomenon stops.
Of course you must always have positive feelings and love your batteries. They don't like exploitation. When you get greedy and demand more they get pissed. So it's a combination of what ewizard said, Peter, Matthew and all the rest. It's tricky!!

[Matthew Jones]

Looks like time of day and temperature. Both can effect a lot of things but mostly the batteries.
Also internal resistance in the battery can change. That usually is good but I suppose that could go bad too.

Any number of reasons can cause those kinda issues. Try try and try again...

Matt

[wantomake]

Entrance sign

OK guys,

I’m pissed. I have seen a pattern happen to me for years and I would like to know what the hell is going on and how to capitalize on it.

What I have experienced over and over again is, the first time I do something, I get great results. But when I keep the ‘thang’ going, the good results evaporate! So I get something happening, have run it for an hour or two and it’s great, so I call a friend or post it, and then from then on it’s crap. So I look like a fool.

Below is an experiment that I did two days ago. I started in the morning with batteries that had rested over night. The first round was OU. Great. Then the old pattern kicks in, a continuing tale of woe, UNTIL it all rests over night. Then, OU and the pattern returns.

This experiment was done with 6 identical batteries in the 3BGS setup, two as the Primaries and four as Battery 3. I would run the system until the Primaries got down to around 12V, then I’d stop it and rest them an hour. Then I’d move the Primaries to the end of Battery 3 and move the first two charged batteries to the Primary position. I kept them in order throughout the testing, so each set of batteries got charged twice as long as they were used. I used more batteries in Position 3 so that I wouldn’t have to worry about 3 going too high.(Maybe too many batteries in 3 if we’re going to switch them soon…?)

In the data below, Time is across the top, the ”X” is when I stopped, and all the numbers starting with “12.” are voltages. Here’s the results:


Thanks for listening to my rant. Hope this comes in useful at some point.

Good luck,

Bob

PS –I guess I should have done this post in red. lol

Hey Bob,
Did you not see the large neon sign over the entrance door that stated:
Anomalous Battery Systems
Experiment at Own mental risk
Nothing is what it Seems

I'm sure not the one to state the physics of lead acid batteries. But does the amperage levels of batteries answer this strange and irritating experience. While the batteries rest overnight does the amperage levels return to normal? Question not a statement.

I've been working on which type generator to construct for this system. Lenzless is what seems the most productive. Want to build smaller prototype first.

Yes me too just ranting.
Oh and the neon sign was red.
wantomake
PS ewizard I didn't see your post until I posted myself. Lol

[ewizard]

[ewizard]

Does anybody know how or who to contact in order to fix problem with changing a password and e-mail for this forum? I've been trying for months to get this straightened out. The system just loops me back to where I started most of the time. I finally got a new name and password through, but now it won't let me post on this forum. Go figure.

Thanks,

Bob

Aaron is who you want to contact: http://www.energeticforum.com/members/2-aaron/

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Fixing a problem.

Does anybody know how or who to contact in order to fix problem with changing a password and e-mail for this forum? I've been trying for months to get this straightened out. The system just loops me back to where I started most of the time. I finally got a new name and password through, but now it won't let me post on this forum. Go figure.

Thanks,

Bob

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[Turion]

First, let me say that I believe THE most efficient design is a machine that has the motor coils and generator coils on the same machine. That is where I have ALWAYS been headed, but to get there I believe it is important for people to understand the DIFFERENCE between using a coil as a motor coil and using it as a generating coil. Matt's little motor is a perfect example of what you want a motoring coil to do. It takes in energy, BOOSTS it, and sends it out (to the charge battery at THIS point).

So once you have all that working, you can start looking at a simple rotor on that motor shaft that produces power. When you have the coils that put out power WITHOUT slowing down the motor you have reached COP of >1 or 2.

But it is the step after that when things really get exciting. When you start using the output of one or two of your gen coils to run your motor because it's amp draw and voltage requirements are so low. THEN it is time to put it all together into one unit.

At least that was the road I intended to take people down, step by step. I know there are some watching who disagree with that approach, but I thought it was important for people to understand what is going on inside the machine and you can best do that by keeping the motor separate from the generator for a while. I started the "Basic Free Energy Device" thread talking about John's original machine which DID keep them separate, and that was for a REASON. I know he eventually went to a motor/generator design with the SSG, but there is much to learn about running the motor between potentials. A generator coil is ALSO a source of potential difference. So is a cap charged by a gen coil.

We didn't start by building 747's. We started with a rickity old plane with men strapped to the wings.