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  • vidbid
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    Terms and Definitions

    Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
    none of those definitions FIT, its an ancient greek term and its translation = Aoristos Dyas in greek, which crudely means "indefinite indivsibility"

    incorrectly translated as "indefinite dyad"


    I wrote a book about that one term using a very PAINFUL and long translation of all its occurrences in the works of Plotinus.



    You could think of it CRUDELY as the "indivisible middle" which can never be removed or "cut out"

    but even thats a bit too crude a definition/ translation.
    Thanks for the clarification.

    And, I still working on trying to wrap my mind around the terms.

    I'm starting off with just a few, as time permits.

    So many terms, so many definitions, so many explanation, so many concepts.

    I will be busy for a long time.

    Amazing discoveries.

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  • vidbid
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    Terms

    I'm still trying to wrap my head around this stuff, so I'll start with the terms that I'm hearing in the videos.

    Terms
    • Dielectric Inertial Plane
    • Dielectric Voidance
    • Dielectric Counter-voidance
    • Perfect Conjugate System of a Magnet
    • Centripetal
    • Centripetal Pattern
    • Centrifugal
    • Field
    • Z Axis Radial Dielectric Component




    I'll add more terms or phrases as time permits.

    Timm A. Vanderelli

    VIDEO 21 Uncovering the Missing Secrets of Magnetism, FUNDAMENTALS 2: DIELECTRIC INERTIAL PLANE - YouTube Missing Secret of Light

    The missing secret of light is that it has a Z Axis Radial Dielectric Component.

    Quotes:

    Space is discharge. It is the attribute of radiation.
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  • TheoriaApophasis
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    Originally posted by vidbid View Post
    According to yourdictionary.com,

    incommensurability [/LIST]


    none of those definitions FIT, its an ancient greek term and its translation = Aoristos Dyas in greek, which crudely means "indefinite indivsibility"

    incorrectly translated as "indefinite dyad"


    I wrote a book about that one term using a very PAINFUL and long translation of all its occurrences in the works of Plotinus.



    You could think of it CRUDELY as the "indivisible middle" which can never be removed or "cut out"

    but even thats a bit too crude a definition/ translation.

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  • vidbid
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    Incommensurability

    According to yourdictionary.com,

    incommensurability

    is defined as
    • that cannot be measured or compared by the same standard or measure; without a common standard of comparison,
    • not worthy of comparison: a statement incommensurable with truth,
    • not being integral multiples of the same number or quantity: said of two or more numbers or quantities.

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  • vidbid
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    I had trouble with my old version of adobe; therefore, I found these links:

    The missing secrets of magnetism and the geometry of electromagnetism.  20 years of research into magnetism and fields






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  • Peter0001
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    The double torus dynamic as presented by Nassim Haramein.
    I really enjoyed his movie Black Whole.

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  • TheoriaApophasis
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    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    All this work you have put together here...seems like SCIFI or even unbelievable to many people...but at the same token.
    Ufopolitics


    too true, indeed yes.


    and i did read all you wrote, and agree 100% of the rest of same





    You made those computer generated pics? !!!


    Absolutely Fu*cking AWESOME STUFF !!



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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
    The compounded line (the hyperboloid) divergence PRECEDES the sphere, of course.

    youre talking about after the fact as per orbiting, likewise, the divergent centrifugal to centripetal force projections are (IN FULL) ellipses

    did you see this video yet??>>>

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07v_dcg14j0
    Yes, I did see it, nice...I have been making that model as well in 3D, but as you did it on the main book designs, meaning, not 'exactly' as an sphere:

    [IMG][/IMG]

    So, when looking from above (Upper View) we have a similar pattern:

    [IMG][/IMG]

    I had to pound my skull in over ages to see the WHOLE picture and you want to relate all of that?

    thats one hellish task
    the divergent magnetic force hyperboloid cannot exist any other way.

    A spatial (=polarity) mirror is always ONE inverse to the OTHER

    as relational to the "mirror" (sic) itself, both are going likewise identically.
    Yes, I got that, thanks!







    its not a static hyperboloid, its force and motion definitionally, seeing the LOWEST counterspatial "sink" (like water "looking" for a hole........LOL).
    A static GEOMETRIC hyperboloid is only half the picture,
    I also understand it is NOT a static, nor 'solid' hyperboloid...as there are no lines, nor curves either...They are all "Traces" left behind from very fast traveling particles detected by all this new inventions and discoveries, like the ferrocell, CRT...and Magnetic Lenses, etc.

    So, actually, the 'Traces' that configure all this 3D volumetric shapes are not moving at all...

    you forget that the inverse side is likewise reciprocating one upon the other, .......and add gyromagnetic precession, you have a -----


    Reciprocating precessional hyperboloid (YEAH, TRY PICTURING THAT BABY)


    which is why you see the hypotrochoid pattern on either 'pole'.
    I do...I could see some...but it is too bright...


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    If you were talking about the magnetic field of one atom or molecule, then fine.

    But a magnet is definitionally a COHERENT polarized mass.

    Gryomagnetic precession in the coherent mass likewise amplifies the phase shift of same.


    It is off center, by .3819

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  • TheoriaApophasis
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    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    Ok, the only way to do that (rotating inverse related to each others and BOTH following SAME Rotation related to Center)... is by "OFF MAIN CENTER" Curves generating the two surfaces Hyperboloid, (rotating around their own axis) while ORBITING or TRANSLATING around center axis...

    The compounded line (the hyperboloid) divergence PRECEDES the sphere, of course.

    youre talking about after the fact as per orbiting, likewise, the divergent centrifugal to centripetal force projections are (IN FULL) ellipses

    did you see this video yet??>>>






    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    Now, above are Two Curves, upper and lower, both OFF MAIN (0) CENTER

    That VERY HASTY DIAGRAM shouldnt be taken so literally, i just inverted 2 disk models,.......youre taking it as 100% accurate, I only meant it representationally.



    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    Thanks Ken for your great patience with me here...as well as to others trying to understand all this.

    I had to pound my skull in over ages to see the WHOLE picture and you want to relate all of that?

    thats one hellish task




    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    ...but each (pole) moving the same direction with respect to the "center".
    In my understanding...it would not be possible to do that Ken...either both #1 or #2 above.

    the divergent magnetic force hyperboloid cannot exist any other way.

    A spatial (=polarity) mirror is always ONE inverse to the OTHER

    as relational to the "mirror" (sic) itself, both are going likewise identically.




    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    ...they will NEVER generate that smooth green Hyperboloid Surface.

    its not a static hyperboloid, its force and motion definitionally, seeking the LOWEST counterspatial "sink" (like water "looking" for a hole........LOL).
    A static GEOMETRIC hyperboloid is only half the picture, and only the FIRST half,

    you forget that the inverse side is likewise reciprocating one upon the other, .......and add gyromagnetic precession, you have a -----


    Reciprocating precessional hyperboloid (YEAH, TRY PICTURING THAT BABY)


    which is why you see the hypotrochoid pattern on either 'pole'.



    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    .But then...IF You sweep/revolve an Off center curve, (like drawn above) you will never obtain that 'smooth' surface shown there from the two hyperboloid surfaces...it would be a 'half donut shape'...or an indented center form.
    If you were talking about the magnetic field of one atom or molecule, then fine.

    But a magnet is definitionally a COHERENT polarized mass.

    Gryomagnetic precession in the coherent mass likewise amplifies the phase shift of same.


    It is off center, by .3819







    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    .The Two Curves that "Sweep" or REVOLVE the Two Hyperboloid Surfaces
    The magnetic divergence doensnt obviously END at the 2 curves, what is AS MEANT is that the very FIRST geometric projection of the loss of inertia (= MAGNETISM) is a hyperboloid, but the CURVES CONTINUE ON to the other side, and mediate their own force divergences , hence the hypotrochoid.


    you begin with the Spatial-counterspatial- Spatial ("pole" inerital plane "pole").......in which case you have the onset hyperboloid

    THEN add precession........

    THEN add reciprocation.......


    Then you end up with a field pressure geometry thats about 99.99999999999999% impossible to explain
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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
    your picture, your empirical model leaves out:


    the magneto-dielectric hyperboloid is not 'connected lines' , but the "two sheet model hyperboloid"
    Well Ken, that picture was based on the quoted line picture drawn by nature...

    apply this picture to the Hyperboloid in your mind...., then 'meditate' on the 'problem' of polarity, space , counterspace....
    it leaves out precessional gyromagnetic torque

    it leaves out the necessitated phase shift that most exist inherent to all forces and spatial divergences.
    Could we please go "by steps" just like teaching little kids......so please could you be patient enough with Us?...


    Each "pole" is (use your hands to demo this to yourself) moving AS MIRROR to each one respectively, inverse to each other but the SAME with respect to the "center".
    Ok, the only way to do that (rotating inverse related to each others and BOTH following SAME Rotation related to Center)... is by "OFF MAIN CENTER" Curves generating the two surfaces Hyperboloid, (rotating around their own axis) while ORBITING or TRANSLATING around center axis...


    Compounded (multiple 'lines') divergent (spatial) NATURAL (natures) LINES


    likewise a reciprocating hyperboloid creates a hypotrochoid, ..........the necessitated field force (=magnetism) pressure mediation seen from a magnet as i predicted ,..... and later discovered under the FERROCELL.



    The hyperboloid IS NATURES "line"..........remember what "her" LINE IS.



    now COMPOUND IT,..... inverse to counterspace is space,...... and each "pole" is moving inverse respective to the other, but each moving the same direction with respect to the "center".
    Before 'compounding it' ...it must be understood as single projections, from single lines or curves...pls, let me quote you again part by part:

    ...each "pole" is moving inverse respective to the other...
    Sentence above is 'too general'...

    1-Are each pole counter rotating between them based on an inline dual axis?
    2-Or are they rotating per single axis and seen from each independent ends?

    In order to understand "moving inverse to the other"

    Then:

    ...but each (pole) moving the same direction with respect to the "center".
    In my understanding...it would not be possible to do that Ken...either both #1 or #2 above.

    "Poles" can not rotate counter to each other, then Both("unified" in one single movement) to be moving same direction as center.


    of course natures hyperboloid is a perfect "point" at the center, unlike this picture below (the white string picture):


    A true magnetic hyperboloid is a "TWO SHEET MODEL HYPERBOLOID"

    which, in appearance, they dont look connected (either force / half).....but they ARE, connected in counterspace




    **** Amazingly in seeing same, ...in bringing two magnets together ...("attraction" , a bs ideation!, rather dielectric voidance) ..... you can see TWO HALVES of the hyperboloids creating a SPHERE, ............and that sphere rapidly SHRINKING ;D


    That crafty *****, Mother nature, I finally figured out how her magnet works. ;D


    ROFL


    ************************************************** ************************************************** *************

    Ok, Ken, that picture above is based on CENTERED Curves forming the Hyperboloid surfaces...meaning, ROTATING along the Z Axis




    Likewise, the Magneto-dielectric hyperboloid is NOTHING other than the POINCARE' DISK MODEL in necessitated mirror "polarity" (bad word)


    The reciprocating hyperboloid (from one spatial side to the other) "draws out" the Hypotrochoid, it MUST as dictated by the nature of force and motion curvilinear assimilation to the net-0 INERTIAL PLANE

    Now, above are Two Curves, upper and lower, both OFF MAIN (0) CENTER, making a projection above disc surface in red...and, if you revolve those two curves, either by center axis (0)...or by their own center ...they will NEVER generate that smooth green Hyperboloid Surface.



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  • ldrancer
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    i think you're grabbing at straws in the dark. you understand how a mirror works?
    what i expect next with your responses is, inverse colors

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  • Dog-One
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    Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
    That crafty *****, Mother nature, I finally figured out how her magnet works. ;D
    So all those angles you calculated previously exactly match the projections?

    If so, then yeah, you nailed it Ken.

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  • TheoriaApophasis
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    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    Another way to see it...
    Now, Ken, going back to my previous post...say the blue end of line is the Polarized North...as Red end is South...revolving this way...it would be following my explanation on "One Way Spin"...except that shaft is not following a 'perfectly vertical' spin...but, still, North is turning CCW, while South is turning CW...(This is looking at each arrow separately, and aiming at screen obviously) And the WHOLE line (Red+Blue ends) is turning ONLY in ONE Direction.
    Ufopolitics

    your picture, your empirical model leaves out:


    the magneto-dielectric hyperboloid is not 'connected lines' , but the "two sheet model hyperboloid"

    it leaves out precessional gyromagnetic torque

    it leaves out the necessitated phase shift that most exist inherent to all forces and spatial divergences.


    Each "pole" is (use your hands to demo this to yourself) moving AS MIRROR to each one respectively, inverse to each other but the SAME with respect to the "center".


    Compounded (multiple 'lines') divergent (spatial) NATURAL (natures) LINES


    likewise a reciprocating hyperboloid creates a hypotrochoid, ..........the necessitated field force (=magnetism) pressure mediation seen from a magnet as i predicted ,..... and later discovered under the FERROCELL.



    The hyperboloid IS NATURES "line"..........remember what "her" LINE IS.



    now COMPOUND IT,..... inverse to counterspace is space,...... and each "pole" is moving inverse respective to the other, but each moving the same direction with respect to the "center".


    of course natures hyperboloid is a perfect "point" at the center, unlike this picture below (the white string picture):


    A true magnetic hyperboloid is a "TWO SHEET MODEL HYPERBOLOID"

    which, in appearance, they dont look connected (either force / half).....but they ARE, connected in counterspace




    **** Amazingly in seeing same, ...in bringing two magnets together ...("attraction" , a bs ideation!, rather dielectric voidance) ..... you can see TWO HALVES of the hyperboloids creating a SPHERE, ............and that sphere rapidly SHRINKING ;D


    That crafty *****, Mother nature, I finally figured out how her magnet works. ;D


    ROFL








    Likewise, the Magneto-dielectric hyperboloid is NOTHING other than the POINCARE' DISK MODEL in necessitated mirror "polarity" (bad word)


    The reciprocating hyperboloid (from one spatial side to the other) "draws out" the Hypotrochoid, it MUST as dictated by the nature of force and motion curvilinear assimilation to the net-0 INERTIAL PLANE





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  • TheoriaApophasis
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    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    Hello Ken,
    Now and first, related to their Magnetic Model shown below...do you fully agree with it?....
    Ufopolitics
    just typical HYPERBOLOID MIRROR SYMMETRY


    ALL geometry is PROJECTIVE GEOMETRY

    make a 'point' (bad term really, since even a point is geometric.) ALL GEOMETRY begins "there" (noWHERE , really).


    The dielectric inertial plane of any magnet:
    1. NO MEASURE
    2. NO POSSIBILITY TO 'CUT IT OUT', SEPARATE IT
    3. INDIVISIBLE AND INCOMMENSURATE (learn what that word means)



    You can slice a magnet a 100000000000000 times vertically, or parallel to 'polarity',......and there is no separation of "poles"
    ......you just end up with 1000000000000000 new magnets EACH WITH THEIR OWN "N and S 'poles' "




    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    Hello Ken,
    Therefore if We have Polarizations 'counter-rotating' each others...then to which one the dielectric plane would 'counter' rotate?...
    Ufopolitics
    There is no polarity, only Natures "line" which is the loss of inertia (= FORCE AND MOTION) which is inverse to counterspace.

    the dielectric inertial plane is "counter/inverse" to BOTH

    but youre leaving out also gyromagnetic precession and also there is a phase shift in the poles, rarefied on the N, and compressed on the S.


    Countless biological experiments and the ferrocell prove this without any question


    likewise, this PHASE SHIFT is necessitated to exist.
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  • ldrancer
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    nope nope nope nope nope. its like why did after seeing a 3d cube did the stupid quiz come out which side of the dumb glass is the fly on? your not eve making sense trying to draw this thing to spin everybody up to attempt to call everyone dumb.

    your not drawing a straight line. its like its supposed to be the game of dont cross the line, or previous point, but you guys do it over and over again. as i said, before, make an engine out of it. if its drawable.. and a real geometric shapek, then its definately freaking craftable and then there boom you got your vroom vroom engine.

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