North - South

[Ernst]

Ernst, first go to space in a space shuttle and then we can continue the discussion till then keep your mind open. Of course there might be other reasons for all the evidence and facts supporting round Earth and not the ones presently accepted. If they spent even 1/4 of the time defending round Earth to look for other reasons, I am sure they would have found plenty, but it is not on their agenda.

You're dodging my question, just like your master! You're a great pupil
I'll repeat one for you:

Now, construct a map in which all of these distances are exactly on scale.
You will end up - without a shadow of doubt - with a spherical map, because there is absolutely no other option. Hence the phrase "without a shadow of doubt".

Give me one plausible explanation for what we see in Foucault's pendulum and/or one plausible explanation for the Coriolis effect. Come on, don't be shy!

There is a difference, you know, between an open mind and a stupid one.
When a fact has been proven in numerous ways, then the wise would accept it. Especially if there is no counter evidence.

You might be very interested in science, but I guess mostly in science fiction

I'm not very interested in science fiction, but I wouldn't kick Seven of Nine out of my bed.

I wonder how long the moderators are going to keep this thread up. It has absolutely nothing to do with "Renewable Energy". Let me see:

Discussion on various alternative energy, renewable energy, & free energy technologies. Also any discussion about the environment, global warming, and other related topics are welcome here.

Maybe it is vaguely connected with the environment?
It is the rant of a religious lunatic, trying to lure people into a discussion and getting offensive when he looses the discussion.
Why am I posting here? You may ask.
Sometimes I wonder too. First I thought there was a serious discussion going on, then I found there was not. Then I wondered what drives this man?
Now, I just look sometimes in this thread for entertainment. This is a comedy channel that I have running in the background while doing more serious work.
No one is going to take this seriously, I thought, how would that be possible?
But then Saros popped up.
It is sad to see that this religious fanatic CAN indeed get support, and that frightening fact keeps me here too. Of course no one can prevent this from happening.
It is the internet and whatever ridiculous and retarded idea you may launch, you will find support...
In a similar way, a new Hitler can rise.
We live in a world of smoke and mirrors and when people fail to recognise those few real facts then that is a very sad moment indeed.

To those Christians over there:
what is the first thing Jesus answered when asked

how do we know the time when you will return?

it is:

Let no one deceive you!

In other words: "I will come back in a time of smoke and mirrors"...
To me personally, Christianity is an opinion, or to be more precise it is a whole bunch of opinions. But if it is your religion you should pay more attention to these words and much less to flatliners nonsense.

So much for now, got work to do.

Ernst.

[cikljamas]

Ernst, do you remember "Midnight sun" argument (you can't see the sun directly when the Earth turns 180 degree away from the Sun (which is midnight position let's say at 66 degree N...because 90-66 = 24; 90-23,5 = 66,5; 66,5 + 24 = 90,5)...It happens EVERY DAY...At midnight (position) at 66 degree N which imaginable (horizon) tangent can't reach the perpendicular line above the Tropic of Cancer (because it's angled more than 90 degree) we can't see the Sun DIRECTLY but it doesn't mean that we would be in darkness, we would see twilight.

Now, draw the diagonal line from midnight position 66 N towards the South and answer me: What would we see at 66 S at NOON position? The answer: We wouldn't be able to see the Sun (for the same reason as in above case at 66 N - MIDNIGHT position) but there wouldn't be darkness also. This is final geometrical proof against rotundity of the Earth! In another words: On the spherical Earth POLAR NIGHT would be pure IMPOSSIBILITY!!! Do you like my "POLAR NIGHT" argument?

So, now your main concern is: How long moderators are going to keep this thread up?

SINK INTO THE EARTH WITH SHAME!!!

And don't come back, you snake!!!

[TheoriaApophasis]

SINK INTO THE EARTH WITH SHAME!!!

since its FLAT, how many miles till you FALL OUT THE OTHER SIDE?

[Saros]

You're dodging my question, just like your master! You're a great pupil
I'll repeat one for you:

Give me one plausible explanation for what we see in Foucault's pendulum and/or one plausible explanation for the Coriolis effect. Come on, don't be shy!

Foucault's pendulum - it only demonstrates the movement of the celestial bodies not the Earth. Some experiments actually point to that possibility as well (Allais effect; Coriolis effect; Coriolis effect 2)
Coriolis effect - same as the above; the stars and the celestial 'bodies' might be the reason for the observed effects...and, of course, the deceptive nature of the 'scientists' explaining the 'observations'.

Also take time to read the information here: Inventions and deceptions coriolis effect

Perhaps you should also argue with the scientists who think that the pendulum's behavior and the coriolis effect are due to something else, and not the Earth's rotation.

[cikljamas]

Foucault's pendulum - it only demonstrates the movement of the celestial bodies not the Earth. Some experiments actually point to that possibility as well (Allais effect; Coriolis effect; Coriolis effect 2)
Coriolis effect - same as the above; the stars and the celestial 'bodies' might be the reason for the observed effects...and, of course, the deceptive nature of the 'scientists' explaining the 'observations'.

Also take time to read the information here: Inventions and deceptions coriolis effect

Perhaps you should also argue with the scientists who think that the pendulum's behavior and the coriolis effect are due to something else, and not the Earth's rotation.

Perhaps he should give a try to this "pendulum":

At all events the Dial has been long enough known to make every Modern Astronomer blush for shame, when it is mentioned, as its faithful, though silent, testimony gives daily visible evidence of the revolution of the Sun. This is easily proved. On a fine summer day, take a rod and place it perpendicularly in any quiet spot, a garden for example, where it can catch the rays of the Sun all day, and watch it for about twelve hours. Every quarter of an hour place a small peg at the extremity of the shadow, and you will find that the line described by the shadow is a curve. At the beginning of May, in the neighbourhood of London, the curve made in twelve hours will be nearly the half of an ellipse, the greater diameter of which will be about thrice the length of the shorter diameter. If you test this in different places, or in the same place at different times, you will get the data for proving the Sun's particular motion over a stationary Earth.

[Ernst]

Foucault's pendulum - it only demonstrates the movement of the celestial bodies not the Earth.

You are hilarious!
But OK, now I understand, the Earth is standing still and the entire universe revolves around it.

Great thread!

Ernst.

[Saros]

You are hilarious!
But OK, now I understand, the Earth is standing still and the entire universe revolves around it.

Great thread!

Ernst.

It doesn't revolve around you obviously, since you're the one spinning and laughing around like a mindless fool. Your so-called entire universe is just a bunch of lights in the sky which might or might not be actual celestial bodies, however, you're too smart to ever doubt what you have been told in kindergarten.

[Ernst]

It doesn't revolve around you obviously, since you're the one spinning and laughing around like a mindless fool.

Indeed, indeed! And you and your master are the cause of all this spinning and laughing!
Thanks! Thank you both so much!

Your so-called entire universe is just a bunch of lights in the sky which might or might not be actual celestial bodies, however, you're too smart to ever doubt what you have been told in kindergarten.

And tell me now, Saros, when will you enrol in kindergarten? Did you pass the admittance test already?

For those who have more than 1 brain cell and still have some control over them:
The Foucault Pendulum would not rotate if the Earth were not rotating. In fact most of the rotation that we observe in the pendulum is in reality our own rotation. Even if the entire universe were rotating and the Earth were standing motionless, the Foucault Pendulum would not rotate. It is as I said conclusive evidence of the Earth's rotation.
The difference in rotational speed at various locations is strong evidence for a spherical Earth.

Then the Coriolis force is a force (actually a pseudo force) that would NEVER exist with respect to an inertial frame of reference. The presence of this force is conclusive evidence of rotation. It CAN NOT exist without it.
Then our young flatliner points us to some documents in which they can not even derive the formula for this force, something I showed a few pages ago. And another page that declares that the Coriolis force is an optical illusion....
In that case the major winds and ocean currents must be optical illusion as well!

And the little extra I gave you, about mapping cities? Also conclusive evidence that the Earth is a sphere.

I really don't know what is happening here. Did the IQ of humanity as a whole suddenly drop 90 points, or does this place or thread attract stupidity, or does it have something to do with how internet functions? What happened to the education systems? Is there any in Croatia? What went wrong with this Saros character?
He used to cut my grass...
He was a very nice boy...

Take care you guys and take it easy on the chickens!

Ernst.

[Ernst]

3

New magic number: 3

65689986 - 65689983 (egyptian pimple) = exactly 3
PI/PI + PHI/PHI + EPSILON-0/EPSILON-0 = 3
SQRT(144)/4 (perzian eyebrow) = 3
SQRT(5x5 - 4x4(four wheel drive)) = 3
(7x7 (days/week) + 30 (Vladiwostok nose) - 70 (Roman middle finger)) / 3 = 3


Makes you wonder, huh?

Ernst.

[cikljamas]

[TheoriaApophasis]

How to sound REALLY REALLY OLD



Yes, I remember debating with people ignorant enough to believe the earth was FLAT



Ohhh, damn!!!! YOURE OLD!!!!

[aljhoa]

I really don't know what is happening here. Did the IQ of humanity as a whole suddenly drop 90 points, or does this place or thread attract stupidity, or does it have something to do with how internet functions? What happened to the education systems? Is there any in Croatia? What went wrong with this Saros character?

The mark of a fanatic

George Santayana famously said that "Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim." But that describes the most extreme fanatics. The lesser fanatic is harder to spot. Fanaticism partakes of some of the characteristics of a cult....

Fanatics are objectionable mostly because they're tiresome. There's a time and place for everything. For a fanatic, now is the time and everywhere is the place.

USS Clueless -- The mark of a fanatic


Al

[Saros]

How to sound REALLY REALLY OLD



Yes, I remember debating with people ignorant enough to believe the earth was FLAT



Ohhh, damn!!!! YOURE OLD!!!!

You're the one who BELIEVES! I am the one who is a skeptic of your belief. You might laugh as long as you want, but you're the person who is gullible in this situation. You cannot test your belief, but you believe nonetheless. That is dumb. Just saying. It is comical how fanatical you guys are.

Your friend, Ernst, on the other hand has also proven to be incompetent reader as he didn't even try to argue the points made in the links provided nor the points made by Cikljamas.

Seriously, if you're going to pretend you're 'scientific' show a bit of scientific skepticism, as it is the nature of science to put things to the test and they don't always pass it.

There are many examples of when scientists believed in one thing, but later on changed their mind. So, if you wish, believe in your omniscient science but do remember that it might turn out one day they were wrong and you will be the fool then. You actually prove that they might very well be wrong, because arrogance often leads to mistakes and poor judgment. I can easily imagine how they wrongly assumed something out of mere arrogance and pride and of course never bothered to research it more, because it is all clear for everyone and there is no point to research it.

Go back to kindergarten now.

[TheoriaApophasis]

Go back to kindergarten now.

Even the dumb little children in Kindergarten arent so dumb as to believe in FLAT EARTH twaddle.

[Hrothgar]

Saros

While I admit I picture TA as Yosemite Sam in a lab coat, I see you not as a skeptic but as more a cheerleader in the special Olympics. You don't contribute one way or another but you are ready to cheer for the drooling Croatian kid chewing on one of the hurdles while he humps it and screams for his bible. I asked about the disappearance of objects like the moon which is one of HIS arguments yet he is unwilling therefore unable to answer it as he is willing to make up any sort of Topsy turvy bull crap about everything else. If he has incomplete arguments, why are you cheering for him! Let me guess I think I know why Arithmophobia! a fear of all those evil math problems! No wait that can't be it I submitted star trail pictures showing his south rim bosh is just bosh by the fact star motions contradict the flat earth star trails. Yet you mysteriously view him as still credible, which of his double talk fantasy world arguments instilled you with this sense of credibility?