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[aljhoa]

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The ATLASGAL image of the "Imposible" plane of the Milky Way


Al

[CANGAS]

" What will be the end of these things ! I am no conjurer, but it is easy to determine what will be from what has already taken place. It has been the fate of all kingdoms, nations, and people from the beginning of time, upon their rejecting or perverting the revelation of God, to fall into anarchy, confusion, and infidelity. The Bible is, as it deserves to be, the great charter of our liberty. The loss of the Scriptures, or severing from or perverting the doctrines or history contained in them, has invariably been attended with discomfiture and ruin, and always will And if their successors continue their resistance, as they have done hitherto, it cannot fail to deluge the kingdom with Atheism, destroying all social virtue, and turning it into a field of blood."
D. W. Scott 1901.

Thanks to Newton’s invented math and the excesses of his gravitational hypotheses, Copernicanism dug in its heels in the universities in the 1700’s, and by the last quarter of that century had produced a large crop of hard core heliocentrists, not a few of whom were advocating ape-man theories (amongst them, Darwin’s grandfather, Erasmus Darwin, Voltaire’s disciples in France, etc.). This was the age of "The Enlightenment" which produced Thomas Paine, the celebrated pamphleteer of the American Revolution, whom George Washington referred to as "that filthy little atheist". Thomas Jefferson's and Ben Franklin’s Deism was commonplace in Europe as well as amongst the rebellious American colonies. During the French Revolution of the 1790’s the Bible was actually outlawed.

Keep in mind that a rotating, orbiting earth is not counted as a mere hypothesis or even a theory anywhere in the world today. Oh no. Rather, this concept is an unquestioned "truth"; an established "fact" in all books and other media everywhere, church media included. Copernicanism, in short, is a concept that is protected in a bunker under a 50 foot thick ceiling of solid "scientific" concrete. It is meant to be impregnable. It is a concept that has become ensconced in men’s minds as the indestructible cornerstone of enlightened modern man’s knowledge. Virtually all people everywhere have been taught to believe--and do believe--that this concept is based on objective science and dispassionate secular reasoning, now long since freed from religious superstitions based on the Bible. Indeed, it was this Copernican heliocentricity concept that gradually broke the back of Bible credibility as the source of Absolute Truth in Christendom. Once the Copernican Revolution had conquered the physical sciences of Astronomy and Physics and put down deep roots in Universities and lower schools everywhere, it was only a matter of time until the Biological sciences launched the Darwinian Revolution.

In order for the Earth to be stationary the stars have to be able to go around and above nightly, so that eliminates Mainstream Science's 78 billion light-year radius of the universe and then that destroys the 14 billion years age of the universe built upon that radius which knocks out the time prop needed for the evolution of the universe, Earth, and mankind. Belief in human evolutionism indirectly causes "immoral" (unlawful and Criminal ) behavior When people realize their fellow man must have been created and has not evolved from bacteria or animals then, again, they would have greater respect and awe for other created humans and not bomb them or do evil to them. In fact if there are great rewards they might be more inclined to help and to do good to others.

If people restored their belief in the Bible as an authentic Word of God there would be little crime or war in the world. No financial fraud or reneging on business agreements, no 55% State taxation, no fractional-reserve fake money, no fake Apollo moon landing, no fake Phoenix Mars Mission, no fake Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Mission, no self-inflicted 9/11 False Flag ops, no dead six million plus German Christians, no dead 500,000+ Iraqi kids, no ISIL, etc...

You have exhibited great humanitarian sentiment in your post and I am deeply appreciative of it!

I was born smarter than the average bear, and am an old man now, who has learned a lot including learning the hard way by being flummoxed by fellow humans who are less nice than I am.

I have studied the Bible extensively and seriously. I am covered by the redemption contract with the Saviour. Be alert that you are in the redemption contract and stay there, and do not get led into a ditch by anybody wanting to argue about details of the structure of the universe which are inconsequential to your eternal salvation.

You have raised many provocative points regarding the structure of the universe and the particular situation of the planet Earth. Of course Satan Devil has sent a herd of devils to try to divert your attention onto things of secondary importance. Due to the mathematical theory of Global Symmetry, ANY model that gives satisfactory "numbers" must be considered satisfactory. A round rotating Earth or a flat static Earth.

You have uttered statements that plainly reveal that you have a severe lack of knowledge of basic physics which makes much of your overall argument wrong. You have a good understanding of navigation and its maths, but unfortunately that avenue is practically irrelevant. That avenue is good for keeping you earthbound which is why Satan has sent some mesangers to lure your attention into that ditch.

Before now, I have given much thought to your thread subject and I have become convinced of a round rotating Earth, though my mind is always open to a truly convincing argument otherwise. God is so big and complex that it is not possible for any mere human to understand everything about His motives and methods. If you are engaged in the redemption contract with Jesus it is of no importance if you do not know exactly how He built His universe. All of your failings and sins are covered.

Do not be the blind one that is led into the ditch by those more blind than you are.

In my opinion the most important point is to examine old observations or do new experiments to determine for certain if there is an observable curvature to sea or land and conclude if were live on a flat plane or a convex plane.


CANGAS

[CANGAS]

you know what the term POLARIZED means?


ultimately it means "CREATES A SPHERE"


every atom


Pile those atoms up.....you DONT END UP with a FLAT EARTH




You're like a dope addict, except the needle is IGNORANCE

the drug is Creationism / God

and the HIGH is Religious stupidity.

So, you say that every natural crystal is in the form of a round ball.

I didn't know that. Thanks for the news.


CANGAS

[CANGAS]

@ Hrothgar, have you ever heard Eric Dollard saying: "No one knows how the Sun works"? So who am i to know something that no (other) human being knows? Watch: The Sun is not a Nuclear furnace raging at millions of degrees. It is Electric and Cold!

The link seems to require a password.

What is the password?

CANGAS

[CANGAS]

I don't know about the pictures, but certainly they don't prove a round Earth. Any space observation made from the surface of the planet is not a valid proof of what really happens in space, it is only evidence of what appears to happen viewed from our perspective.

The only way to prove that would be to leave the planet Earth and actually see it from a great distance. However, in my opinion this hasn't be done yet and the photos from space are all fake. One might want to think they are genuine, but definitely it is not guaranteed. In fact, even if we indeed took photos from space that alone shouldn't be considered definite proof it is round even if it appears that way. As I mentioned a long time ago, the whole topic is very abstract as we cannot verify any of the claims.

However, Cikljamas may be right even though his arguments are not always very strong. The idea that the Earth is flat has a long history. Furthermore, it could also be true that some time in the Middle Ages it was deemed necessary to fool the world that the Earth is round for various, mostly religious reasons. This explains all the fakery concerning the matter in question.

Many years ago today I was a photography expert. My main camera was a Canon FTQL 35mm SLR. I had a small collection of lenses including three fisheye wide angle lenses. The fisheyes easily produced images of non-spherical objects that looked like spheres or balls. I took a number of photos of ordinary flat plots of land that produced images looking as if the horizon was rounded or spherical whereas to my naked eye the horizon was normal flat and level.

In this thread I have seen several photos that I recognized as being, because of a number of tell-tale visual effects, shot with a fisheye lens which show a curved horizon and are touted to be proof of a convex planet. Ain't really good proof! I can use a fisheye lens and make your house look like a sphere...


CANGAS

[mikrovolt]

Our perspective is that of having two eyes and not functionaly correct.
The argument is relative. This video is a crude simulation might help to develop such a perspective.
This is not what we were taught it is non-euclidean. something like looking through a fish bowl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xHvAqDuWG2M#t=323

[CANGAS]

You honestly think that defines earth? 6 miles? Its laughable.
The earth is 25,000 miles round.

The dirt of earth is maluable. Some parts rigid...some parts FLAT.
It could VERY easily be a 6 mile stretch of flat land formation that water is laying on.

Why has NO ONE EVER repeated this experiment on the ocean?
Drive two sail boats miles apart, take telescope with camera, EASY to prove a flat earth.
Both boats should be fully visible.

Funny...NO ONE CAN PROVE IT...Because the earth isn't flat.

The dirt of earth is maluable. Some parts rigid...some parts FLAT.
It could VERY easily be a 6 mile stretch of flat land formation that water is laying on.

No. On a spherical planet, regardless of the shape of the underlying dirt bed, the surface of the water is expected to have a concave shape.

CANGAS

[aljhoa]

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A view of the Grand Canyon taken from an altitude of
approximately 30 kilometers on a World View balloon test flight in
October 2015. The company hopes such views will entice customers
to purchase $75,000 tickets for commercial flights starting in 2017. -
See more at: Arizona county to build new headquarters for World View - SpaceNews.com

Al

[aljhoa]

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Spatial ability is the capacity to understand and remember the spatial relations among objects. This ability can be viewed as a unique type of intelligence distinguishable from other forms of intelligence, such as verbal ability, reasoning ability, and memory skills. Spatial ability is not a monolithic and static trait, but made up of numerous subskills, which are interrelated among each other and develop throughout your life.

Spatial Intelligence Test

2D vs 3D

"Matrix Stars"

Al

[aljhoa]

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See more at: Cosmic Disclosure with Corey Goode and David Wilcock | GaiamTV - Seeking Truth

Cosmic Disclosure | GaiamTV

Al

[aljhoa]

moon elliptical craters miracle

p-brane quotes
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[aljhoa]

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[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjehvTBrsNA[/VIDEO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjehvTBrsNA

I thought this was interesting.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/LRO_WAC_Nearside_Mosaic.jpg/600px-LRO_WAC_Nearside_Mosaic.jpg

Vidbid,
are above elliptical craters the proof of Flat Moon?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter

Al

[HuntingRoss]

[ldrancer]

i wanna think that the whole, universe, big bang is expanding theory, crap, is like thinking th eearth is flat. yo8u havent seen the edge of it so you don't know. so it's not, it just goes on and on like common sense would say.

[HuntingRoss]

I find this thread fascinating and I am only two pages in. I have checked most of the links provided and find my head bursting to respond in part. Ignorant that my comments may already have been covered in the remaining ten pages, I apologise in advance.

Experiment 7.

Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not A Globe: Chapter II. Experiments Demonstrating the True Form of Standing Water, and Proving the Earth to be a Plane: Experiment 7

Figure 17 depicts a board B B aligned with the horizon and states -

If the eye be now directed in an angular direction to the left and to the right, there will be no difficulty in observing a length of ten to twenty miles, according to the altitude of the position; and this whole distance of twenty miles of sea horizon will be seen as a perfectly straight line.

Figure 18 depicts what should be seen if the earth were a globe with a declination from horizontal of 66 feet at each end with 20 miles between.

Experiment 8.

Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not A Globe: Chapter II. Experiments Demonstrating the True Form of Standing Water, and Proving the Earth to be a Plane: Experiment 8

Large underground aquifers exist today that may represent remnants of the waters that burst forth during the global flood.

What would cause the water above ground to become subterranean ?

Those buildings that you can plainly see are supposed to be under hundreds of feet of water.

This image is similar to other diagrams and descriptions in the text described in the first two pages of this thread, so I shall use this image only to address my observation.

The image does not prove a flat earth by itself, it just disputes the commonly held belief that the earth curves at 8 inches per mile. Clearly to some degree the buildings lie beyond an horizon. Does this mean the earth curves at say 2 inches per mile or 1 inch perhaps ?

What would cause the observable to contradict the accepted ?

--S--

There is a theory which I find equally interesting and relates directly to a possible explanation for the two quotes above.

The Expanding Earth Theory https://www.google.co.uk/search?clie...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 which is pretty self explanatory.

Water that could engulf the earth might become subterranean if the globe were to expand AND a commonly held belief that the globe declines by 8 inches per mile may be incorrect if the globe were expanding.

I shall conclude with this -

A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow.

Men In Black - 1997.