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  • cikljamas
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    Originally posted by ethan View Post
    Spherical
    ....ok lets argue some of your "facts".....

    Answer these questions...
    What happens when you get to the edge?
    Why has no one ever seen the edge?
    Why does the sun rotate like a sphere? Its equator does infact rotate faster than its poles (like a giant sphere)
    Well, first of all, you have to understand what you are talking about when you use exotic words like "gravity" is. Do you really think you have at least slightest idea of what gravity really represents and/or how it really works?

    Well, maybe you should read this before you answer:
    Read more: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-mc-2-a-8.html

    But even if you were right, your inescapable position would still be situated between these two equally lethal positions:

    1.2. On the other hand, if the atmosphere doesn't move along with the spinning Earth or if it's properties were of a such kind that there would be no atmospheric resistance (in the air) for flying objects then you have to be able to explain away this issue:

    The earth is not rotating - spinning.

    and this:

    THE EARTH NO AXIAL OR ORBITAL MOTION.

    What happens when you get to the edge?
    You have to come back if you want to stay alive.

    Why has no one ever seen the edge?
    Read more: http://www.energeticforum.com/254554-post297.html

    Do not skip this: Eric Dollard: THE SUN IS TRANSFORMING FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION #1

    In above post you have the answers to you third question too...
    One can reconstruct the origin of these numbers by doing a little geometry, starting from a flat earth hypothesis. Remember the experiment of Eratosthenes, who measured the angular elevation of the sun at two latitudes in Egypt? He assumed that the sun was effectively infinitely far away (or at least so far compared to the earth's size that the actual distance didn't matter). Then he calculated the diameter of the earth using a second assumption: that the earth was spherical.

    But suppose you abandon Eratosthenes' two assumptions, and adopt instead the assumption that the earth is flat. Then, triangulation from the same data gives the distance to the sun: 3000 miles! See how a simple change of assumptions can drastically alter the entire cosmos? However, the round earth was more than an arbitary assumption for Eratosthenes, for he and his contemporaries, had other very good reasons for knowing the earth was round. [Textbooks sometimes mislead by suggesting that his experiment was designed to prove the earth was a sphere. It was not, it was only intended to measure the size of the sphere.]


    Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
    Al-Al, you think you can race with me? Well, let me introduce myself to you: alal vera kako ga chera Did you notice that guy on a sagway? Were that you?...
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  • ethan
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    Enya - Only Time MUSIC VIDEO - YouTube

    Beautiful Song. Beautiful Earth.

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  • ethan
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    Spherical

    Wind resistance will alter the shape of any semi-liquid form being pulled by gravity.
    Im sure nothing is actually spherical being dropped inside the atmosphere. Probably more oval.

    ....ok lets argue some of your "facts".....

    If the Earth was rotating fast enough to complete 360 degrees every 24 hours, the atmosphere would long ago have been hurtled away.
    If an object were dropped from the tip of the atmosphere, it would hit the ground within...lets say...a half hour.

    60mi thick atmosphere
    120mph terminal velocity

    That means earth would basically have to rotate 360 degrees within 30 minutes for its centrifugal force to become stronger than gravity and "hurtle away" its own atmosphere.

    Earths gravity = Centripetal Force....Is greater than....Earths rotation = Centrifugal Force

    Earth Centrifugal Force is already extremely weak. Then take into consideration, your talking about its affects on the atmosphere (highly energetic gaseous molecules) which is rotating with earth due to viscous drag. Then take into account the mass of gaseous molecules is extremely small.

    What you end up with are incorrect assumptions and calculations by Dr. Shaban

    the angular velocity becomes greater at higher altitude
    angular velocity is based on angular momentum which is based on....mass

    the higher the atmosphere altitude the thinner is gets which means it has less mass...which reduces the angular velocity.


    So at 500 km (about 311 miles above sea level) the pressure of the atmosphere (gas) would be greater than at sea level....The greatest pressure is at the farthest point from the center of the rotating body or part.
    Unless that rotating body (atmosphere) is extremely light, exerting very little centrifugal force. Not to mention the higher the altitude, is the less amount of atmosphere above it, which reduces the pressure due to less atmospheric weight above it.

    Heavier elements and molecules would be driven outward. That means there would be relatively more oxygen than hydrogen at high altitudes
    No. Gravity is stronger than the centrifugal force. Gravity wins.
    Oxygen is heavier and naturally settles lower.
    Throw a water balloon onto a pile of empty balloons. The heavy one sinks.

    Since we know that actual atmospheric pressure decreases with altitude instead, the Earth cannot be rotating and have the atmosphere we know.
    Earth does rotate. Gravity produces a centripetal force which counteracts earths rotational centrifugal force. Its all relative to everything within the earth which makes its interaction hard to measure, even more so for gas particles which practically have no mass.

    The atmosphere does rotate with the earth at the same speed due to viscous drag.
    The atmosphere is a gas, which means it does not react to angular velocity, gravity, or centrifugal forces to the same degree as solid mass (like us, or centrifugal pumps) does.

    "attraction of cohesion" (not "attraction of gravitation "), which is verylimited in its operation.
    Its action is confined to small quantities of matter
    Scale is relative. Larger scale would require more time to attract and cohere.
    Larger molten shots, need to be dropped higher. Tropical storms rain too much water from too short a distance. ECT...

    Earth...had millions of years to complete the semi-liquid cohesion.

    ...................................

    OK im done with the "Flat Earth Theory". Its as real as the tooth fairy.

    Answer these questions...
    What happens when you get to the edge?
    Why has no one ever seen the edge?
    Why does the sun rotate like a sphere? Its equator does infact rotate faster than its poles (like a giant sphere)

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  • aljhoa
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    Fat Erf Poof



    This contrail is no more vertical than the road is, and nor are the power lines at 45 degrees.
    Everything is horizontal



    Round earth theory debunked in less than 2 minutes - YouTube

    Al

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  • cikljamas
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    Originally posted by ethan View Post
    What do you expect to happen if you travel in the same direction? Fall off the edge?

    You think the moon, sun, planets are all plates?

    Throw a handful of water into the air...When gravity pulls it back down...it turns into spheres.

    viola' earth is round.

    Planets form into spheres while in their molten state while being pulled in by the suns gravity.

    Why do bible followers lack logic? Seems like that's a requirement to have "faith".
    Voila:

    An argument for the earth's rotundity is thought, by many, to be found in the following facts:

    "Fluid or semi-fluid substances in a state of motion invariably assume the globular form, as instanced in rain, hail, dew, mercury, and melted lead, which, poured from a great height, as in the manufacture of small shot, becomes divided into spherical masses."

    "There is abundant evidence, from geology, that the earth has been a fluid or semi-fluid mass, and it could not, therefore, continue in a state of motion through space without becoming spherical."

    In the first place, in reply to the above, it is denied that hail is always globular. On examination immediately after or during a hail-storm, the masses present every variety of form, and very few are found perfectly globular. Rain and dew cannot so well be examined during their fall, but when standing on hard surfaces in minute quantities, they generally appear spherical, a result simply of "attraction of cohesion." The same of mercury; and in reference to the formation of shot, by pouring melted lead from the top of a very high tower into cold water, it is a mistake to suppose that all, or even a large proportion, is converted into truly spherical masses. From twenty to fifty per cent. of the masses formed are very irregular in shape, and have to be returned to the crucible for re-melting. In addition to which it may be remarked, that the tendency in falling fluids to become globular is owing to what, in chemical works, is called "attraction of cohesion" (not "attraction of gravitation "), which is verylimited in its operation.

    Its action is confined to small quantities of matter. If, in the manufacture of shot, the melted metal is allowed to fall in masses of several ounces or pounds, instead of being divided (by pouring through a sieve or "cullender" with small holes) into particles weighing only a few grains, it will never take a spherical form. Shot of an inch diameter could not be made by this process; bullets of even half an inch can only be made by casting the metal into spherical moulds. In tropical countries the rain, instead of falling in drops, or small globules, often comes down in large irregular masses or gushes, which have no approximation whatever to sphericity. So that it is manifestly unjust to affirm, of large masses like the earth, that which attaches only to minute portions, or a few grains, of matter.

    Without denying that the earth has been, at some former period, or was, when it first existed, in a pulpy or semi-fluid state, it is requisite to prove beyond all doubt that it has a motion through space, or the conclusion that it is therefore spherical is premature, and very illogical. It should also be proved that it has motion upon axes, or it is equally contrary to every principle of reasoning to affirm that the equatorial is greater than the polar diameter, as the inevitable result of the centrifugal force produced by its axial or diurnal rotation. The assumption of such conditions by Sir Isaac Newton, as we have seen when speaking of the measurement of arcs of the meridian, was contrary to evidence, and led to and maintains a "muddle of mathematics" such as philosophers will, sooner or later, be ashamed of. The whole matter, taken together, entirely fails as an argument for the earth's rotundity. It has been demonstrated that axial and orbital motion do not exist, and, therefore, any argument founded upon and including them as facts is necessarily fallacious.
    Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
    I was recently put onto the work of Dr. Robert Sungenis around geocentrism - mindblowing stuff, quoting a lot of scientific findings to support his position. Here's a great interview with him:
    Dr Robert Sungenis - Geocentrism Geocentric Cosmology - YouTube
    In short, he maintains that the earth is at the center of mass of our universe, and the universe rotates around the earth, analogous to the way a thrown tennis racket rotates around its center of mass.
    I hope I'm not quoting something already cited in this thread.
    Bob
    See post #7!!!
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  • Bob Smith
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    I was recently put onto the work of Dr. Robert Sungenis around geocentrism - mindblowing stuff, quoting a lot of scientific findings to support his position. Here's a great interview with him:
    Dr Robert Sungenis - Geocentrism Geocentric Cosmology - YouTube
    In short, he maintains that the earth is at the center of mass of our universe, and the universe rotates around the earth, analogous to the way a thrown tennis racket rotates around its center of mass.
    I hope I'm not quoting something already cited in this thread.
    Bob

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  • ethan
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    What do you expect to happen if you travel in the same direction? Fall off the edge?

    You think the moon, sun, planets are all plates?

    Throw a handful of water into the air...When gravity pulls it back down...it turns into spheres.

    viola' earth is round.

    Planets form into spheres while in their molten state while being pulled in by the suns gravity.

    Why do bible followers lack logic? Seems like that's a requirement to have "faith".

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  • cikljamas
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    You must be confused by the position of God on above schematic, aren't you?

    Well, you should be just a little bit subtler, but let me help you not to die of so much laughing, this is the key for understanding God's position in above schematic:

    Paul Before the Areopagusboundaries of their habitation. 27 that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, 'For we also are His children.'

    If there is anything else that you would like to ask about, but you are too timid to step up and pose the question, feel free to ask what ever you want, just don't be so shy. And i warn you: to much laughing could be deadly dangerous...

    Regarding great flood you have to chose between these options:

    1. It didn't happen at all
    2. It happened but it was local event
    3. It happened and it was global event

    You can not prove the trueness of any of the first two options, but i can prove to you that the third option is true.

    Mt. Everest and the Himalayan range, along with the Alps, the Rockies, the Appalachians, the Andes, and most of the world's other mountains are composed of ocean-bottom sediments, full of marine fossils laid down by the Flood. Mt. Everest itself has clam fossils at its summit. These rock layers cover an extensive area, including much of Asia. They give every indication of resulting from cataclysmic water processes. These are the kinds of deposits we would expect to result from the worldwide, world-destroying Flood of Noah's day.


    Is there evidence that the flood was global?

    I will quote here just the first one evidence (out of six):

    1. Fast moving water can erode away dirt, sand and even rock. When the water slows down, the dirt, sand and rock are dropped. This sediment may contain minerals that can be weathered away quickly. In the San Francisco area of California, beds of sediments hundreds of feet thick contain minerals that would have been destroyed if not buried quickly. Such beds can be seen in many other areas world-wide. These sediments could not have been laid down slowly over thousands of years otherwise the minerals would have been destroyed by weathering. Such beds tell us that a great quantity of water was involved and the sediment was deposited and buried quickly.

    Scientific Evidence for a Worldwide Flood

    Now that you see that there is plenty of evidence for Global Great Flood you have to ask yourself if such a global event could be possible on the rotund Earth (Globe), especially rotund and spinning Globe?

    It is obvious at the first glance that the answer to that question is: NO, IT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE!

    Underlying the flood story in Genesis 6-9 is the ancient Israelite view of the cosmos as made up of a flat disc-shaped earth floating on water.[14] Below the earth were the "waters of chaos", the cosmic sea;[15] the waters were also above the earth, and so the solid bowl of the raqia (firmament) was necessary to keep them from flooding the world.[16]

    You see: if there was a Global Great Flood, Earth surface has to be Flat!!!

    But that is just one among innumerable proofs of Earth's Flatness and Motionless!!!

    If that is still funny to you feel free to laugh, just remember: you were warned about related health issues!
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  • Hrothgar
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    nuff said


    did I say

    So in summary it's not a Dyson sphere, its a Jesus sphere.

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  • cikljamas
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    Originally posted by Hrothgar View Post
    So where are the edges located and what is at the bottom on the other side?
    The edges are located in "the south" and "the south" is not the south in ordinary meaning of that word. The south means farther (southerner) from North Pole which is in the central position of the Earth.

    Regarding another part of your question we should first reconsider something else:

    One atheistic view:

    Despite the obvious sincerity of those who so view the Bible, the inerrancy doctrine has no basis in fact. That the Bible contains mistakes in every area mentioned by Mr. Till is a truth widely recognized by reputable Bible scholars. One of the most consistent scientific errors that Bible writers made concerned their misconception of the earth's shape. In Psalm 24:2, for example, it was said that "the world and all that is in it belong to the Lord; the earth and all who live on it are his. He built it on the deep waters beneath the earth and laid its foundations in the ocean depths," (GNB).
    Now, let see if it is really true that the inerrancy doctrine of the Bible has no basis in fact...
    IT has been shown that the doctrine of the earth's rotundity is simply a plausible theory, having no practical foundation; all ideas, therefore, of "centre of attraction of gravitation," "mutual mass attraction of earth and moon," &c. &c., as taught in the Newtonian hypothesis must be given up, and the cause of tides in the ocean sought in some other direction. Before commencing such an inquiry, however, it will be useful to point out a few of the difficulties which render the theory contradictory, and therefore false and worthless...

    ...In both the above experiments it will be seen that the water will be drawn away from the sides representing the shores when it is elevated in the centre. Hence the supposed attraction of the moon upon the waters of the earth could not possibly cause a flood-tide on the shores which are nearest her meridian action, but the very contrary; the waters would recede from the land to supply the pyramid of water formed immediately underneath the moon, and of necessity produce an ebb tide instead of the flood, which the Newtonian theory affirms to be the result.

    The above and other difficulties which exist in connection with the explanation of the tides afforded by the Newtonian system, have led many, including Sir Isaac Newton himself, to admit that such explanation is the least satisfactory portion of the "theory of gravitation."... You have to read this through - The cause of tides
    Then you have to read this:

    Location

    The exact depth of the waters known as the great deep within the Earth's crust varies with different models. The Hydroplate theory places the water below a 10-mile thick crust, the remnants of which are now the continental crust. This theory is the first flood model to deal with the springs of the great deep. Modeling the springs of the deep is an important aspect of any Flood model and one where hydroplate theory excels. It is an important aspect of flood geology but one that still requires much work.

    Location map showing the boundary of the High Plains (Ogallala) aquifer, major cities and roads, and altitude of land surface.

    Large underground aquifers exist today that may represent remnants of the waters that burst forth during the global flood. One of the largest known aquifers is known as the High Plains Aquifer (Ogallala aquifer). The Ogallala is an ancient, non-replenishing body of water that supplies nearly one-third of the water used for irrigation in the US. The aquifer lies beneath 8 states in the U.S. and occupies some 175,000 square miles. More than 5 trillion gallons of water are pumped from the aquifer each year.

    There seems to be water beneath the Tibetan Plateaumay contain about 10-30 times the amount of water currently in all of our oceans combined. Experimental work was followed and what was discovered is that 70% of what comes out of volcanoes is water. Additionally, certain minerals can hold water in even the worst temperatures.

    Scientists have also discovered a blob in the earth's mantle. It is located more than 500 miles under the western Caribbean Sea and is about 80 miles thick by 380 miles tall. This is most likely lava, but this may be a left over of a spring that ruptured during the Flood. This fits nicely with hydroplate theory.[9]

    According to a recent model, there is a strange anomaly in the pacific. It appears to be an enormously huge section of hydrate minerals. Though this is a far cry from a fountain of the deep, it fits nicely into the idea. This could very well be the left over of a fountain.[10]

    Motohiko Murakami, of the Tokyo Institute of Technology in Japan, found that there may be Murakami's team finds. But because the volume of the lower mantle is much greater than that of the transition zone, it could hold a comparable amount of waterconsiderable amounts of water.unexplained earth quakes in the deep mantle. Theoretically, water in the deep parts of the earth could explain this. [13]

    There is also the Beijing Anomaly. It is an anomaly in seismic waves, which hint (at a 700-1400 km depth) at a large amount of water in the mantle.[14] More recently, researchers found that there is a reservoir as large as the Arctic ocean in the mantle.[15]

    There has also been testing and research done on the upper mantle of the earth. A mineral called wadsleyite, holds about 3% water by weight. And the estimated amount of wadsleyite that exists, the water contained in it works out to be about 30 of our oceans. 30 oceans worth of water is more than enough to flood the earth to the highest mountain.[16]




    Genesis 7:18

    And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.


    Genesis 7:20ARK on Mt. Ararat: WHY the media BLACKOUT on the real history of Ararat?

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  • Hrothgar
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    sorry didn't read to closely

    So where are the edges located and what is at the bottom on the other side?

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  • cikljamas
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    Originally posted by Hrothgar View Post
    If the earths rotation is 24hours and the earth trip around the sun takes 1day then yes it would always have only on side facing the sun but it takes 365.25 days so that isn't an issue.

    The atmosphere isn't an object. If it were a single object then yes it would try to fly off. HOWEVER! being a mass of unconnected gas it acts as a lubricant deflecting each accelerative impact. according to the "logic" presented oceans should be in the sky as they are denser than air. Gravity out pulls the centrifugal forces at that point.

    Hot air rises cold air drops due to differences in density Hydrogen fly's skyward at about 15mph from that density difference.

    I know the earth spins due to one simple test. Pull the plug on your drain and watch which direction the water swirls. If your in the north it will drain counter clockwise, in the south clockwise.

    As far as the universe having warm and cold areas have you ever considered the expansion of the universe is in the shape of a toroid not a sphere. From our perspective we wouldn't be able to perceive it but it would be like a concussive ring born of a bullets passing. Finding one loose thread doesn't unravel a tapestry.

    I have only found one religion that makes any sense and here is the entirety of its doctrine:

    1 God is great
    2 Beer is good
    3 People are crazy

    That's it.

    What is the point of your first sentence? There is no point in your sentence, but your pointless sentence reminds me to one question that has a great point: in geocentric universe everything is spinning around Earth, how can it be?

    Answer: It can't be without great modifications of the geometry, and relations (distances) between celestial objects (and their sizes) in the universe as we generally perceive it on the basis of current fraudulent scientific dogma!!! That is why geocentrists are much lousier guys than heliocentists! Geocentrism without Flat Earth Hypothesis is just a disastrously preposterous idea, ultimate stupidity! Listen this excellent question, and then excellently stupid answer: Mic'd Up "The Principle: Is Earth Really the Center of the Universe?" - YouTube

    Regarding your simple test of watching which direction the water swirls i just have to say this:

    Did i say:

    I advise you to make these few tests for the beginning:

    Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not A Globe: Chapter II. Experiments Demonstrating the True Form of Standing Water, and Proving the Earth to be a Plane: Experiment 1

    Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not A Globe: Chapter II. Experiments Demonstrating the True Form of Standing Water, and Proving the Earth to be a Plane: Experiment 2

    Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not A Globe: Chapter II. Experiments Demonstrating the True Form of Standing Water, and Proving the Earth to be a Plane: Experiment 4

    Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not A Globe: Chapter II. Experiments Demonstrating the True Form of Standing Water, and Proving the Earth to be a Plane: Experiment 5

    Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not A Globe: Chapter II. Experiments Demonstrating the True Form of Standing Water, and Proving the Earth to be a Plane: Experiment 6

    Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not A Globe: Chapter II. Experiments Demonstrating the True Form of Standing Water, and Proving the Earth to be a Plane: Experiment 7

    Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not A Globe: Chapter II. Experiments Demonstrating the True Form of Standing Water, and Proving the Earth to be a Plane: Experiment 9

    Do you feel any wiser now?

    1 God is great
    2 Beer is good
    3 People are crazy

    That's it.

    Just couldn't agree more!!!
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  • Hrothgar
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    wow, I have to say that is twisted

    If the earths rotation is 24hours and the earth trip around the sun takes 1day then yes it would always have only on side facing the sun but it takes 365.25 days so that isn't an issue.

    The atmosphere isn't an object. If it were a single object then yes it would try to fly off. HOWEVER! being a mass of unconnected gas it acts as a lubricant deflecting each accelerative impact. according to the "logic" presented oceans should be in the sky as they are denser than air. Gravity out pulls the centrifugal forces at that point.

    Hot air rises cold air drops due to differences in density Hydrogen fly's skyward at about 15mph from that density difference.

    I know the earth spins due to one simple test. Pull the plug on your drain and watch which direction the water swirls. If your in the north it will drain counter clockwise, in the south clockwise.

    As far as the universe having warm and cold areas have you ever considered the expansion of the universe is in the shape of a toroid not a sphere. From our perspective we wouldn't be able to perceive it but it would be like a concussive ring born of a bullets passing. Finding one loose thread doesn't unravel a tapestry.

    I have only found one religion that makes any sense and here is the entirety of its doctrine:

    1 God is great
    2 Beer is good
    3 People are crazy

    That's it.

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  • cikljamas
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    You have to see this, especially pay attention at what has been said in 13th minute of this video (about the true reasons of organizing Second Council of Vatican): Mic'd Up "The Principle: Is Earth Really the Center of the Universe?"starting with the error in the Galileo case, "and the idea was to correct this wrong start "and to find a new relationship between the Church and the best forces in the world, "to open up the future of humanity, to open up to real progress."

    Now, what Ratzinger really meant by mentioning "THE ERROR IN THE GALILEO CASE"???

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  • cikljamas
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    Let me remind us how it all began:

    The belief that the Earth is rotating on an "axis" and orbiting the sun is THE GRANDADDY OF ALL DECEPTIONS IN THE WORLD TODAY...


    Launched from its modern founder's deathbed in 1543, the Copernican Revolution ushered in a movement that has totally reshaped and re-directed ALL of man's knowledge (See Below Article: Exposing The Copernican Deception: )

    The Christian Bible (and the Koran!) declare the earth to be motionless. The mathematical Copernican model says the earth rotates on an "axis" (at over 1000 MPH) orbits the sun (at 30 times rifle bullet speed), and is whooshing around a galaxy (at 250 times rifle bullet speed) .....all at the same time.

    Over the centuries, superstars in the physical sciences established the Copernican model as an unchallenged fact. This success paved the way for conquest of the biological sciences (Darwin et al). This transvaluation of values and philosophy (Nietzsche et al) then quickly spread to the social and behavioral sciences (Marx, Freud et al), to mathematics (Einstein et al), the Arts (Picasso et al), Education (Dewey et al), and so on through today's media reinforcement of all of the above. ..As the 21st Century gets its feet wet, man's "knowledge" is almost totally secularized and the Bible all but ignored as the source of absolute Truth from God Himself. ..The "sciences" reign supreme, and they do so because of the victory of Copernicanism over the Bible's motionless earth11 Charles K. Johnson, president of the Flat Earth Society, is absolutely vehement about scientific dishonesty. 12

    Unlike most Christians, Bible-Scientists insist that if conventional science is true, the Bible must be false.
    Since flat-earthism is the paradigm of Bible-Science, it should be discussed first.EARTH IS STATIONARY ! ! !Dr. Shaban in his book, The Verses of Deus (page 77). The reason for that is obvious: If the Earth does not rotate 360 degrees in 24 hours, but if it does revolve around the sun, then one side would always be in daylight, while the other half would experience continual night. It would be similar to what we see of the moon, as it revolves around Earth.

    1) If the Earth rotated about its polar axis, it would have to be moving fastest at the equator and slower at each mile closer to the north and south poles. Theoretically, the tiny point at each pole would not be moving at all. (We will explain this proof below, after listing a few additional points.)

    2) As Dr. Shaban3)
    4)
    Dr. ShabanDr. Shaban points out, the principle of the centrifuge and the centrifugal pump is the same as would be for a rotating Earth: The greatest pressure is at the farthest point from the center of the rotating body or part.

    Since we know that actual atmospheric pressure decreases with altitude instead, the Earth cannot be rotating and have the atmosphere we know.

    Finally, for this page, the gaseous atmosphere, if rotating with the earth, would exhibit properties for which the centrifuge is made: Heavier elements and molecules would be driven outward. That means there would be relatively more oxygen than hydrogen at high altitudes, and more hydrogen than oxygen (by percentages) near sea level. That is because oxygen is heavier than hydrogen. And the result does not agree with reality (that says the percentage of oxygen stays the same with altitude - just the amount decreases). And that would mean that life as we know it on earth would not have survived.

    But life has survived. So the Earth-is-stationary point is proven! The Earth does not rotate on its polar axis. This stands proven and absolutely destroys the possibility that heliocentricity could be true. -Because if the earth is stationary (in terms of having no rotation) but it did revolve around the sun, one side of the earth would be very hot and the other constantly frozen from lack of sunlight.

    The earth is not rotating - spinning.
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