This forum is preserved as a permanent archive. The community continues at eMedia Press.

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

North - South

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • aljhoa
    replied
    Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
    1669,8 km/h
    1669,8 km/h, is this the velocity of the sun "running" above the equator of the flat earth?

    Is flat earth the center of the universe or is it located in the Milky Way galaxy?

    Al

    Leave a comment:


  • cikljamas
    replied
    Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
    The law of inertia cannot be applied in air atmosphere under any conditions. Galileo demanded that, the law of inertial is valid only in the absence of air but the Helios fellows extended the inertial law in air atmosphere. We would gratefully appreciate Galileo if his law were situated in air, since it will save our Earth from the pollutions of the fossils. Consider one of their fellows in airplane and during its motion in air atmosphere he left the airplane with a parachute. According to the inertial law; the fellow and the airplane are supposed to move side-to-side with the same speed. He must feel proud to his superpower; the airplane is consuming propellers and he is not! In reality, and in the first moment, he will realize that the airplane is ahead of him and he is left behind in air because the inertial motion is terminated by the presence of air. Argue or not, it is well-known fact since the ancient civilizations. In the presence of air atmosphere, the law of inertia does not function. If you threw an object aloft several meters, it will come back to your hand; not because of the law of inertia but because the Earth is stationary Scientists have measured the speed of microscopic constituents of the Earth, atoms and molecules, but they have failed to measure the speed of rotating Earth!
    fig. 2.1 Schematic of a Pitot-static tube

    The portion denoted A in the diagram is parallel to the kinetic air, it measures the static air pressure PA. The static pressure is the pressure of air that is not subject to any stimulated conditions but it has the component of thermal motion. The Pitot tube measures the total pressure of the flow at B, and the static pressure at A for a given altitude height, from zero to aloft. If PB equals to PA, then the dynamic pressure is zero; therefore, the flow velocity has zero component or more precisely has its thermal velocity only. Basically, the aero-dynamical condition for non moving objects is when the static and the total pressure are equal.The Mach number is the ratio of flow speed, denoted V, to the speed of sound, denoted a, at the point of motion for a given temperature, that is M = V/a. Figure 2.2.Figure 2.2 The dynamic air flow along Earth's latitude that should result from Earth's rotation. The higher is the rotation, the greater is the Mach number.

    It is very obvious, that if the Earth were experiencing a daily rotation; the air flow at the surface of the Earth would have variable velocity (not the thermal), variable pressure (not the static), and variable density (not the normal). The science of aerodynamic is clear in this issue; an air flow (dynamic) should be generated from the region of M = 1.33 to the region of M = 0; from the region of high density (at the equator) to the region of low density (at the poles). Such air flow and such air pressure regimes do not exist. The localities of these regimes would terminate the life of all species on Earth. The fact that, the static sea level pressure is equal to one atmosphere (= 1013.25 mbar (millibar) = 0.101325 x 106 Pascal) at standard conditions concludes the absence of rotating EarthIt is true and fact.It is not a matter of feeling; it is a matter of velocity and pressure.Both assumptions belong to science fiction; no one accepts that the visible airfoil is unseen and the outer layer of air atmosphere is solid and not vacuum! The cause of the rotation of the air layer at sea level is without ancestor. The technique of the rotation, also, cannot be envisioned by a normal brain of human.
    Originally posted by aljhoa View Post


    Al
    1669,8 km/h

    Leave a comment:


  • aljhoa
    replied
    Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
    In the presence of air atmosphere, the law of inertia does not function. If you threw an object aloft several meters, it will come back to your hand; not because of the law of inertia but because the Earth is stationary. You cannot breathe oxygen from air atmosphere and speak about the law of inertia. Dump the law of inertia in space.
    Galilean relativity
    Let's look at a situation inspired by Galileo's example. An observer on a train moving smoothly with velocity v either drops a ball or throws it horizontally with speed -v, ie with speed v in the opposite direction. We can compare this with an observer on the platform who either drops a ball, or who throws it (forwards) with v. We show the two points of view. Galileo chose lead or rock as the material so that the weight of the projectile would be much greater than the forces exerted on it by air. In our animation, air resistance is neglected.


    Press "Play" in the link provided:
    Galilean relativity and Newtonian mechanics (from Einstein Light)



    Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
    Scientists have measured the speed of microscopic constituents of the Earth, atoms and molecules, but they have failed to measure the speed of rotating Earth!
    Earth's Angular Speed

    Earth's_rotation


    Earth's Velocities
    Astronomers believe the "Earth" is moving at approximately 630 km per second with respect to this local co-moving frame of reference.

    Milky Way - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Earth is traveling at an average speed of 828,000 km/h (230 km/s) or 514,000 mph (143 mi/s) relative to the galactic center
    Galactic year - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




    Al

    Leave a comment:


  • cikljamas
    replied
    Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
    Now, i am going to hit the last nail in the round earth coffin:

    Imagine that we live in the house placed in the North Pole region, or that we fix the web cam on the roof of our northern house and direct it (web ca,) to the sun.

    What would happen?

    For several summer months the sun would change it's position in the sky very slowly (due to Earth's orbital motion), but in this period of time sun wouldn't change noticeably it's position in the sky due to Earth's daily-rotational motion, in other words we wouldn't be able to notice sun's daily circular path across the sky because we would stand directly in the line with Earth's axis, which means: our northern house wouldn't make any circle at all or in the worst case it would make such a small circle (if we were somewhat out of straight Earth's axis line) that it couldn't have any such effect which could yield any noticeable sun's parallax in the sky.

    Sun would be practically immovable spot in the sky (just like stars are).

    Why don't we have until this day any such movie which could easily prove Earth's daily rotation?

    Because the Earth is not revolving at all, and because the Earth's surface is flatly flat!

    All you (round guys) have to do is to make live video like this:
    Arctic Midnight Sun

    Only this time you should film North Pole Midnight Sun from the roof of our hypothetical northern house...

    ...and voila...

    But you can't do that, because if you could you would have already done it!!!

    Am i right? Of course i am right!!!

    What excuse are you going to put forward this time?

    Too cold region for filming? Too cold for flying over not-existing South Pole? Too cold for reasoning?
    Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
    Now i am going to hit the final nail right in the heart of the rotund Earth hoax (the greatest hoax in the history of mankind):

    Since it's obviously too cold to put web cam in the north pole region we can make even simpler test right away:

    If the Earth was rotating about its axis, someone in Quito, Ecuador would be traveling twice as fast from west to east as someone in Oslo, Norway – at any moment, and at every moment. Meanwhile, someone looking at the proverbial North Pole, would hardly be moving at all! But is that reality?

    Of course it is not reality, but this supposed fact of Earth's rotation now becomes deadliest error of all, concerning supposed differences of Earth rotational speeds at different latitudes.

    If these differences were really the true fact then the apparent motion of all celestial bodies would be twice faster for any observer on the equator than it would be for any observer on the latitude of Oslo.

    Am i right? Of course i am right, as always!

    How hard would be to make an experiment (measurement) of such kind???

    CASE CLOSED?
    The prosperity of heliocentrism was ceased a by talented objection, that all dropped objects should land behind their starting positions because the turning Earth leaves them behind. Unfortunately, the objection of the talented people was refuted because of a dead law in air atmosphere – the law of inertia. It is the Galileo’s law and the first law of Newton. Their common reply is that: all dropped objects have inertia, and thus, the rotating Earth will not leave them behind. The law of inertia cannot be applied in air atmosphere under any conditions. Galileo demanded that, the law of inertial is valid only in the absence of air but the Helios fellows extended the inertial law in air atmosphere. We would gratefully appreciate Galileo if his law were situated in air, since it will save our Earth from the pollutions of the fossils. Consider one of their fellows in airplane and during its motion in air atmosphere he left the airplane with a parachute. According to the inertial law; the fellow and the airplane are supposed to move side-to-side with the same speed. He must feel proud to his superpower; the airplane is consuming propellers and he is not! In reality, and in the first moment, he will realize that the airplane is ahead of him and he is left behind in air because the inertial motion is terminated by the presence of air. Argue or not, it is well-known fact since the ancient civilizations. In the presence of air atmosphere, the law of inertia does not function. If you threw an object aloft several meters, it will come back to your hand; not because of the law of inertia but because the Earth is stationary. You cannot breathe oxygen from air atmosphere and speak about the law of inertia. Dump the law of inertia in space.

    The modern folks are disturbed from the disbelief of some fellows to their theory. They are wondering why some fellows whom are belonging to the 21st century and can not realize the rotation of the Earth with a speed of 1669.8 km/hr at the equator. To even our trouble; the modern fellows insisted that the air atmosphere is also rotating with the rigid Earth. Perhaps, they do not know that, the Earth’s speed varies with Earth’s latitude. Since the rigid sphere has different speeds along its latitude; hence, the air molecules must have the local speed of the rigid Earth at any given latitude. What are the airspeed and pressure pattern that would be caused by the Earth’s rotation? The maximum airspeed and the maximum pressure (dynamic pressure) must be oriented at the Earth’s equator in which the Earth suffers its maximum rotational speed of 1669.8 km/hr. Conversely, the minimum air speed and the minimum pressure (dynamic pressure) must be oriented at the north and south poles since the rotational speed is zero. This pressure setup is the fittest route for Hurricanes; a pressure drop between two regions (from high pressure to low pressure). No one has measured the Earth’s speed even in the modern time with a developed technology. Scientists have measured the speed of microscopic constituents of the Earth, atoms and molecules, but they have failed to measure the speed of rotating Earth! The "Earth’s rotation" is a technical notation refers to a fake mechanism that only found in the fairytale of heliocentrism.

    fixitan is stupid! you see?
    Last edited by cikljamas; 03-31-2017, 10:01 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • aljhoa
    replied
    Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
    Now i am going to hit the final nail right in the heart of the rotund Earth hoax (the greatest hoax in the history of mankind):

    If "N" points to Polaris Star on your "flat earth navigation chart" then the star named "sun" "runs in circles" and Arctic Midnight Sun is everywhere.

    So where is the night-day cycle on your "flat earth navigation chart"?

    run in circles
    1. Lit. to run in a circular path.
    2. and run around in circles Fig. to waste one's time in aimless activity. Stop running in circles and try to organize yourself so that you are more productive. I have been running around in circles over this matter for days.
    run in circles - Idioms - by the Free Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.


    Running in circles United Pursuit Band lyrics - YouTube

    Al

    Leave a comment:


  • cikljamas
    replied
    Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
    Now, i am going to hit the last nail in the round earth coffin:

    Imagine that we live in the house placed in the North Pole region, or that we fix the web cam on the roof of our northern house and direct it (web ca,) to the sun.

    What would happen?

    For several summer months the sun would change it's position in the sky very slowly (due to Earth's orbital motion), but in this period of time sun wouldn't change noticeably it's position in the sky due to Earth's daily-rotational motion, in other words we wouldn't be able to notice sun's daily circular path across the sky because we would stand directly in the line with Earth's axis, which means: our northern house wouldn't make any circle at all or in the worst case it would make such a small circle (if we were somewhat out of straight Earth's axis line) that it couldn't have any such effect which could yield any noticeable sun's parallax in the sky.

    Sun would be practically immovable spot in the sky (just like stars are).

    Why don't we have until this day any such movie which could easily prove Earth's daily rotation?

    Because the Earth is not revolving at all, and because the Earth's surface is flatly flat!

    All you (round guys) have to do is to make live video like this:
    Arctic Midnight Sun

    Only this time you should film North Pole Midnight Sun from the roof of our hypothetical northern house...

    ...and voila...

    But you can't do that, because if you could you would have already done it!!!

    Am i right? Of course i am right!!!

    What excuse are you going to put forward this time?

    Too cold region for filming? Too cold for flying over not-existing South Pole? Too cold for reasoning?
    How hard would be to make an experiment (measurement) of such kind???

    CASE CLOSED?
    Last edited by cikljamas; 05-27-2014, 02:24 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • aljhoa
    replied
    Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
    Now, i am going to hit the last nail in the round earth coffin:

    Too cold region for filming? Too cold for flying over not-existing South Pole? Too cold for reasoning?


    The sun Returns in Antarctica.
    Some great time lapse footage of us getting our sun back and putting the flag up.
    There is also an extract from my Documentary called 'Why Winter?' which played along side Werner Herzogs 'Encounters
    at the end of the world' for a week at the Antarctic film festival in Tasmania.






    Al

    Leave a comment:


  • cikljamas
    replied
    Hit the nail on the head

    Now, i am going to hit the last nail in the round earth coffin:

    Imagine that we live in the house placed in the North Pole region, or that we fix the web cam on the roof of our northern house and direct it (web ca,) to the sun.

    What would happen?

    For several summer months the sun would change it's position in the sky very slowly (due to Earth's orbital motion), but in this period of time sun wouldn't change noticeably it's position in the sky due to Earth's daily-rotational motion, in other words we wouldn't be able to notice sun's daily circular path across the sky because we would stand directly in the line with Earth's axis, which means: our northern house wouldn't make any circle at all or in the worst case it would make such a small circle (if we were somewhat out of straight Earth's axis line) that it couldn't have any such effect which could yield any noticeable sun's parallax in the sky.

    Sun would be practically immovable spot in the sky (just like stars are).

    Why don't we have until this day any such movie which could easily prove Earth's daily rotation?

    Because the Earth is not revolving at all, and because the Earth's surface is flatly flat!

    All you (round guys) have to do is to make live video like this:
    Arctic Midnight Sun

    Only this time you should film North Pole Midnight Sun from the roof of our hypothetical northern house...

    ...and voila...

    But you can't do that, because if you could you would have already done it!!!

    Am i right? Of course i am right!!!

    What excuse are you going to put forward this time?

    Too cold region for filming? Too cold for flying over not-existing South Pole? Too cold for reasoning?
    Last edited by cikljamas; 05-26-2014, 01:50 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • cikljamas
    replied
    Is this the look of three men who had just returned from being the first men to walk on the Moon? The Apollo 11 crew have just returned to Earth and are talking to President Nixon from quarantine. This group is definitely
    not a bunch of happy campers. Could they feel ashamed about something they didn't do?



    Michael Collins was designated the navigator for Apollo 11. In his book he lists the 37 navigation stars they were to use, plus their corresponding octal numbers which identified them to the computers. Here's how Michael explains that navigation package:

    "The astronaut, peering out through either his telescope or his sextant finds one of the chosen few, superimposes a + on it, and pushes a button at the instant of perfect alignment. He then tells the computer which star it was, by numbers. Repeating this process on a second star allows the computer and the platform to determine which way the spacecraft is pointing. So we now know which way is up? Well, not exactly, because "up" is a rather fragile concept meaning away from the center of the earth, a direction opposite the gravity vector used to clutch us tightly by. But suppose we cannot even see the earth in our window, suppose we are floating free of earth's gravity. What now, M.I.T.? Back to our friendly stars. We simply define a new up-down and left-right, using the stars in place of earth. All will be well as long as we all play the game by the same rules, as long as the ground controllers send us instructions using the same stellar frame of reference. Now we are free of all terrestrial conventions and can correct our course to and from the Moon by pointing in the proper direction relative to the stars."

    Collins seems to be saying that the sextant had a cross hair in its optics. But sextants don't have cross-hairs. Curiously, I went sniffing through his book and found out that sure enough he was talking about a sextant. Almost 100 pages later he continues:

    "Unlike Gemini, however, Apollo has a fancy computer tied to the optics, and now I call on it for help; it responds by swinging the sextant around until it points at where it thinks Menkent is. Aha! There it is, in plain view, and it's a simple task for me to align the cross-hairs precisely on it and push a button at the instant of alignment. Now I repeat the process using Nunki, and the computer pats me on the back by flashing the
    information that my measurements differ from its stored star angle data by .01 degree. It displays this information as 00001. In M.I.T.-ese, a perfect reading of 00000 is called five balls."


    Aha! There it is, in plain view: he does claim his sextant has a cross-hair, but this cannot be true! A sextant is an instrument that uses mirrors mounted on a calibrated movable leg. The essence of the instrument is to superimpose one object over the image of another thereby measuring the angle between them. On Earth, one of the objects is usually the horizon but here he is measuring the arc distance between two stars. As I said, there is no reason to have a cross-hair.

    *********************************

    A clean glove often hides a dirty hand.
    English Proverb

    The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than a small one. A. Hitler

    The trouble with lying is that your lie changes slightly with each telling.
    Rene Herbert Spencer

    While examining Newton's gravity I found that most rock strata underlying a 1,000 foot cliff should collapse. One cubic foot of rock weighs about 100 pounds therefore a square foot of the overlying rocks weigh about 100,000 pounds which exceeds the known bearing capacity of those rocks which is usually in the 20,000 pounds per square foot range.

    From studies and simple experiments I concluded that Newton's Equatorial Bulge could not exist. A bulge would cause a shift in latitude from a perfect sphere and using a super accurate transit I shot the stars. I discovered that if there is a bulge it can be no larger than a few hundred yards high which destroys Newton's miles high bulge.

    Our massive Equatorial bulge is a myth proclaimed by our geological gas bags because if true our equator should be constantly shifting due to the movement of huge masses on the surface which change latitude. Gigantic icebergs, dust storms, and the shipping of ores from one place to another changing the line of heaviest mass which should always form the equator. This is the same problem that Newton faced.
    Rene

    Leave a comment:


  • aljhoa
    replied
    Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
    why wouldn't they fake one stupid image which proves nothing?


    Keep up "good work" and enjoy:

    At first glance these spectacular swirls of colour may look like clever computer graphics or the result of faulty camera work.
    They are, in fact, the product of hour after hour of painstaking night-time shooting by photographer Lincoln Harrison.
    His stunning pictures of star trails across the Australian night sky were taken over periods of up to 15 hours.

    Australian photographer Lincoln Harrison endures 15-hour photo shoots to capture stunning night images of star trails | Mail Online





    Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
    David K. Lynch

    5. Summary and Conclusions
    In view of the agreement between the visual observations,
    measurements of the photographs, and the theoretical curvatures, it seems well established that the curvature of the Earth is reasonably well understood and can be measured from photographs. The threshold elevation for detecting curvature would seem to be somewhat less than 35; 000 ft but not as low as 14; 000 ft.
    Photographically, curvature may be measurable as low as 20; 000 ft.




    Al

    Leave a comment:


  • cikljamas
    replied
    They faked moon landing, why wouldn't they fake one stupid image which proves nothing?

    Look at the series of images in my post above, it is good solid proof that they had faked moon landing!

    I tell you, there is no south pole whatsoever.

    Read this:

    IF the earth is a revolving globe, moving rapidly in an orbit round the sun, with its axes of revolution inclined to the plane of the ecliptic, as the Newtonian hypothesis affirms, there may be six months' continued light alternating with six months' continued darkness, at both the northern and southern axial or central points. That such is the case in the northern centre is matter of certainty, but that it is so in the south there is no positive evidence. A few irregular statements have been found in the reports of mariners who have endeavoured to circumnavigate the "antarctic circle," which have been seized upon as proofs, but on careful examination they are found to be neither worthy as evidence nor pertinent to the subject in dispute.

    Read more
    : Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not A Globe: Chapter XIV. Examination of the So-Called ''Proofs'' of the Earth's Rotundity: Continued Daylight in the Extreme South

    Antarctica key to flat earth

    Weird case: The Case of the Hacked South Pole
    Last edited by cikljamas; 05-25-2014, 11:15 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • aljhoa
    replied
    Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
    You have got the answer in the first link in my previous post:

    There is no south pole:
    The following image is an unprecedented star trail image taken from the Equator (this imaginary line that splits the Earth into the two hemispheres) in Ecuador (the country).
    If you stand on the Equator line you can see the Southern Pole at the horizon to the South (left of the image) and the Northern pole at the horizon on the opposite direction.
    The Earth rotation will make all the sky and stars look like they rotate around these two points, making them appear as concentric circles (which look like ellipses on this distorsioning fish eye image). Note that on this image, that cumulates 10 hours of exposure starting 1 hour after sunset and finishing 1 hour before sunrise (nights and days always last 12 hours on the Equator, it is a permanent equinox), more than 90% of the sky is 'visible', this is another particularity of being on the ecuator line : you can observe the largest part of the sky during any night. An extremely bright meteor appeared during that night and seems to be pointing at the Southern Pole (extreme left of the image). Image processing done with Prism software.

    Los Cielos del Ecuador, From Southern Pole to Northern Pole






    Where on your "flat earth navigation chart" the counter rotating star trails can be taken ?


    Al

    Leave a comment:


  • cikljamas
    replied
    You have got the answer in the first link in my previous post: here i adjusted the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV_MO8uTsHc#t=2m8s

    There is no south pole:

    You Have NEVER Seen the Sun Do This! Sun Antics from Neumayer Station,Antarctica

    100% proof that something is wrong. ANTARCTIC John Gorman

    Now you can try to amaze us with impossible (sane) answers concerning irrefutable arguments that i have presented to you in a few last posts...

    You still refuse to watch videos that i link to you?

    Leave a comment:


  • aljhoa
    replied
    Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
    Al, why don't you answer to my questions?
    I have asked you first and you ignore my questions.
    So what is the answer:



    Originally posted by aljhoa View Post

    South Pole Star Trails

    Explanation: No star dips below the horizon and the Sun never climbs above it in this remarkable image of 24 hour long star trails. Showing all the trails as complete circles, such an image could be achieved only from two places on planet Earth. This example was recorded during the course of May 1, 2012, the digital camera in a heated box on the roof of MAPO, the Martin A. Pomerantz Observatory at the South Pole. Directly overhead in the faint constellation Octans is the projection of Earth's rotational axis, the South Celestial Pole, at the center of all the star trail circles. Not so well placed as Polaris and the North Celestial Pole, the star leaving the small but still relatively bright circle around the South Celestial Pole is Beta Hydri. The inverted umbrella structure on the horizon at the right of the allsky field of view is the ground shield for the SPUD telescope. A shimmering apparition of the aurora australis also visited on this 24 hour night.
    APOD: 2012 August 2 - South Pole Star Trails





    Where on your "flat earth navigation chart" the counter rotating South Pole and North Pole star trails can be taken ?


    Al

    Leave a comment:


  • cikljamas
    replied
    Al, why don't you answer to my questions?

    Because there is no sane answer to irrefutable facts?

    O.K., i understand that.

    Let me show you some more irrefutable facts:

    NASA And The Masters Of Deception Camera Trickery


    THE EARTH ROTATING FROM SPACE?

    World nasa space fantasy is falling apart








    LIARS:


    PREPARE EARTH FLAT CLINTON


    PREPARE EARTH FLAT REAGAN

    I am not here, what is here isn't here, just there without "T"

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X