QEG Positive Critics/ Builders thread

[JohnnBlade]

Cools, but im happy i got kicked out of 5 electronic schools cause of boredom, and if you stick to what you learned in skool you wont be able to think that much more out of the box, dont let yr mind get poluted


Btw, this is the positive qeg critics thread, not the other stuff thread : )


Greets JB,

Skype eachother,

Since I studied electronics at college, I'm not at all surprised - I was quoting the builder directly, go check the video-comments! Apparently your way of trying to hide your own lack of electronics knowledge is to start acting peevishly! You have gone out of your way to NOT have a discussion about what is a genuinely interesting effect - waffling on about bifilar capacitance without putting it into context is akin to telling me the sky is grey when I ask you to explain the nature of rain. Just admit that you don't understand what causes it (I have) - and quit posturing.

[Ben2503]

Workmanship

Cools, but im happy i got kicked out of 5 electronic schools cause of boredom, and if you stick to what you learned in skool you wont be able to think that much more out of the box, dont let yr mind get poluted

Churchill: "Any fool can see what is wrong, but a craftsman can see what is good!"

I sure hope that when I take my kids to the doctor, he knows his 'old school' stuff.
Same applies here, I have my doubts about someones skills when that somebody uses a DC amp meter to measure AC. Or says that the circuit is resonant, while the scope shows an inductive waveform.

good luck to all

[sprocket]

Cools, but im happy i got kicked out of 5 electronic schools cause of boredom, and if you stick to what you learned in skool you wont be able to think that much more out of the box, dont let yr mind get poluted


Btw, this is the positive qeg critics thread, not the other stuff thread : )


Greets JB,

Skype eachother,

Yeah, sorry about that. Kinda hard to be positive about the QEG at the moment though, especially with Hope-girl telling us that it won't work if we don't 'believe' it will.

[Electrical Nemesis]

New to Thread QEG hypothesis

OK so I have studied the plans to the QEG extensively, and I have studied the patent from Tesla it was made and based on. The significant idea from the patent is one Tesla described only in passing and is not the primary goal of the actual generator.
Thus far I have been able to deduce that the QEG has one circuit that is a large LC circuit, a big tank which charges up, and a load circuit which doubles as an input circuit. The LC is the coils on the left and right and then when it charges up enough it is capable of driving the main rotor. As it drives the main rotor, they disconnect the power and then the energy of the tank circuit turning the main rotor creates an alternating current in the top and bottom coils, which is rectified to push the DC motor, which feeds back power to the main circuit. The exciter coil creates a larger potential in the load circuit.
As far as my knowledge of quantum physics goes, and I have studied extensively... there is no magic here, no free energy, but there is an amazing thing this can do. This device will store a large charge and eventually run down without a small input just like a battery.
Because it is being marketed as a free energy, perpetual motion machine they are missing the wonder of what this truly is. you can use this design to take a small input like a solar panel or a wind turbine on a house and use it to power a whole house as long as you don't use a huge amount of wattage at once or you will run it down and only have available the power of the input device.
A hundred years of physics and Tesla himself said that there is no free lunch, no energy from nothing. The wonder of this device needs to be extricated from the unsubstantiated claims.
Oh and it is definitely resonant, but in the way a pendulum is, it just stores energy in not only LC circuit impulses, but also physical motion. It will lose energy to friction, and to inefficient field coupling and various other things like parasitic capacitance but it does resonate and it could be the design that creates a revolution in energy technology. If everyone in a neighborhood put one of these on their house with a solar panel and a wind turbine, and attached some DC batteries to the motor that stored energy in a convential way... this could remove that neighborhood from the grid and they could share an amazing power system.

[pazz9]

Hi All,

Came to this late but hey...

Would it not be fair to say that the coils are behaving like aerials?
The coupling is easily explained with tesla's one wire transmission.
We have a solid input on one wire and a solid ground on the second coupled wire.

The HV comes about because it is resonating at its own L/C tuned frequency.
The ozone is probably being created between the two unconnected wire pairs, providing they are close enough....you do not need to see a spark or electrical emissions to know that it is occuring and ionising the air between the gaps.
The wire sizes are such that a good current would probably flow...
Finally, the magnets are also inducing a reasonable change within the core, which should be enough to cause the energy to manifest the only way it can....via an electric field.


All of this doesn't explain the amount of power being recorded in the input meter from the Thane rebuff video.....unless the electric field is interfering with the meter....which is doubtful.

also...i like What you said Ben...

The other positive thing is that we can use this resonance to our benefit.
Tesla wrote in his patent no 512,340
Quote:
I have found that in every coil there exists a certain relation between its self-induction and capacity that permits a current of given frequency and potential to pass through it with no other opposition than that of ohmic resistance, or, in other words, as though it possessed no self-induction.
So the bifilar coils need to be matched to the combination of number of poles and RPM. Or alternatively use a single coil and an external variable capacitor. In the latter the choice can be serial resonance if low voltage / high amps is required or serial resonance when high voltage / low amps is required.

We could need to use air cored coils to prevent any cogging from the core to get the most out of them.
Just a thought anyway.

[wayne.ct]

Air cores

That is a good point about air cored coils, Paz. Always keep in the back of your mind that there can be no iron losses in an air core coil/transformer. In my personal experiments I often stay away from solid cores of any kind, ferrite, nails, whatever. Also, in the positive criticism vein, none of these videos really reveal enough information to reassure me that there is no funny business going on. It is the same with the QEG. I think many are trying to be honest, but are only open up to a point. Everyone seems to think they can withhold a bit of technical information. After all, it is either obvious, unimportant or redundant. Why bother? Or, maybe someone will pay me for that last little bit of withheld information. And why not? There is a lot of money to be made if you do things "right". Not true?

[altrez]

Has there been any replications yet? I had forgot all about this project. Seemd interesting at the time.

-Altrez

[mikrovolt]

If you would like to simulate a damped oscillation in LT spice
you can use V1 and V2 shown below with whatever parameters you want.
The concept level simulation lets you visualize basic parametric resonance.

In the picture you can see the second order
harmonic in yellow. It has significant energy worth harvesting.

It was previously thought that this type of wave was probably just trouble.
The QEG experiment was interested in finding such an arrangement for rotors.

This post is to help advance development time for variations (some very simple)
by isolating the basic function ( the form that we see occurring universally in nature )
this example gives the experimenter what to aim for. (just like the picture)

The V1 parameters gives a single damped wave, then V2 is the loop for recurring wave function V(ctl).
I show another timing square wave shown in blue in the picture.
This damped wave simulation demonstrates how to switch at appropriate timing.
Follow the square wave notice where it goes high (may need to adjust the width slightly).
The first order pulse is switched on and delivered to the load, the next high switches off.
Next the second order wave is switched on and delivered to storage and then switches off.

damped sine.JPG