Newman Motor Finally Explained?

[BroMikey]

a bold attempt bro - hosted PDF nothing special (I thought ) just treat as a post
http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b3/BroMikey.pdf

Me too, digging gold, I just got your PDF, what a great guy you
are Duncan. I'll read up and answer later.

[Duncan]

Hi Vidbid - Happy to write ! simply having trouble transfering it to energetics forum. The page just hangs blank. Perhaps its OK now

[vidbid]

A Blast From The Past

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGAz3piA3qg[/VIDEO]

The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman overunity2001 - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGAz3piA3qg

Interesting to watch the old news reports.

[vidbid]

Update

I have been reading Newman's "tome" and found some information on Newman's weird-looking cylindrical commutator in the image below.



If you go to page 292 of his book, The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman (a link to which I provided in an earlier post in this thread and also in this post), and take a look at Figure 22-N, you'll see a diagram of what he refers to as a "Revolving Commutator Design."

Link to Newman's Tome:

http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/Newman.pdf

He explains his purpose in why he chose this design, which I won't go into now, because I don't feel like it, at this time.

If you like, you can read what Newman had to say about it.

In Figure 22-N the commutator and brushes can simply be multiplied two or three times over the original commutator as depicted in the commutator photographs on page 64. The commutator pictured in Figure 22-N has eight breaks and fires simultaneously such that the GAP distance the spark has to travel is multiplied by a factor of eight. Such a mechanical configuration multiplies the speed of atom unalignment and releases greater energy output with respect to the energy input. (With increased hydraulic pressure [voltage], the commutator discs should be further increased in number.

Suffice it to say that as good as he felt about the above commutator design at the time, he didn't feel like continuing with that design, so much so that he went back to the old design in the last manifestation of his energy machine, dubbed, Big Eureka, which he later unceremoniously sold for scrap prior to his death.

That's about all I have to report for now.

Best wishes to all who read my diatribe, which probably isn't fair to Space Chicken, but then so what. He's dead, and none has stepped forward to defend him.

[vidbid]

vidbid - I really cant post more than a few lines - energetics just isnt doing (for me at least) I'll try and answer if and when I can do more than two lines of comms

Hi Duncan,

I don't understand.

(1) Is it because you don't feel like posting more than a few lines,

or

(2) is it because of some technical problem with the board that is preventing you from posting more than a few lines?

For ease of communication, you can respond to my question with a number 1 or a number 2 if you like.

[Duncan]

a bold attempt bro - hosted PDF nothing special (I thought ) just treat as a post
http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b3/BroMikey.pdf

[Duncan]

vidbid - I really cant post more than a few lines - energetics just isnt doing (for me at least) I'll try and answer if and when I can do more than two lines of comms

[vidbid]

Geoffrey Miller

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzhSBO5MSQU[/VIDEO]

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Joseph Newman Motor replications by Geoffrey Miller of EnergyBat Labs -- Historic and Recent - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzhSBO5MSQU

Joseph Newman Motor replications by Geoffrey Miller of Energybat Labs -- Historic and Recent

Charging up dead batteries, Newman's saving grace.

[Allcanadian]

@Duncan

Just an opinion - This isn't electricity thats going to conform to any standard theory - Its reactive current and power. classic electrical theory tells us it can do no work of any sort.
That isn't true! but having said that there are no ratio's or laws to manipulate the effect that I know of.
to engineer towards 0 PF with a high inductance to try to provoke the effect is what I have in mind

The devil is always in the details, we define a reactive current as one which periodically stores energy in a system (XL, XC) for a period of time only to be returned to the source. They say it is "wattless" and yet it dissipates power within any resistance therefore the claim is false. In fact reactive current is just a fancy term to describe energy which is stored periodically versus being dissipated within the system. Thus to say a reactive current does work is to say it cannot be a reactive current.

On the other hand if we were to periodically store energy in a reactive component such as a capacitor and this capacitor did not dissipate energy yet did perform external work through a field translation of some sort then yes it is still considered a reactive current. Thus it seems clear in my mind what many are looking for. A reactive component which performs external work in the form of a field translation but does not dissipate energy in itself during the process.

Which begs the question I was determined to answer so many years ago... how exactly does energy dissipate?, where does it dissipate and why?. You see once the question of how energy dissipates is answered it becomes obvious how energy may accumulate. They are alter ego's of one another... dissipation/accumulation and to know one is to know the other.

The trick is to not let semantics or our education get in the way of progress. If you want to find answers you go to the source which is nature not man.

AC

[Duncan]

struggling to post on here

[BroMikey]

I don't know your electrical training

You should have seen that transistor tv, it covered the entire length
of our classroom tronix bar 40 long feet. This was before a 555 timer
came in strong.

Deflection, that whole deal, old time long hand circuits. Just math and
play time. No one person did it all. Then later I looked at the digital
chips and much more, just goofin off building already designed boards
like my modulated microphone that went on my base CB radio.

Really simple stuff. On the universe and space I loved the books from
the 60's on ION propulsion and at 9 years figured out how the pumping
of rocket fuel worked on the BELL. Pumps powering pumps where
gravity was not present the accumulator tanks started the process.

The snap program, a space sandwiched nuclear battery, skylab
posters all over my room, sent to me from Johnson's Jet lab, then at
12year one lab sent me the write up and breakdown of the MHD
Magneto-Hydro-Dynamics electrical generation with a flame seeded
by a metal passing a coil.

Just some pass times. Books are yummy. TEXT books, I hated romantic
novels.

[vidbid]

Carbon Rods

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKfebTL2iiY

Thanks for sharing that video.

I was aware that Newman used carbon rods as brushes on his commutator, but I didn't know there was a OU effect associated with their use.

[wantomake]

Best reference

And if you ignore your prejudice to the man what can you discover on the + side of the equation ?
after all I'm not really interested in 'Joe Newman' only the machine and its operation .
Like John Hutchinson in the comments here I think the machine 'good work' (probably) and say so
reading the testimonials of many skilled folks who tested this machine supports that view.
Joseph Newman Motor replications by Geoffrey Miller of EnergyBat Labs -- Historic and Recent - YouTube
I think I see at least some of the principle used . I have ordered a few odds and sods so I might try the ambition.
- Bro you asked for a little more on reactive current and power. The infinite I was writing of related mathematically (It might also apply to deity's I don't know) I don't know your electrical training & so don't really know where to start . Perhaps if you could research a little bit on the difference between electrical series and parallel resonance it would be a very good spring board.
regards Duncan
PS - great research as usual Vidbid

Thanks Duncan,
Miller has the only replication video so far that I've enjoyed watching. There's no instructions but he seems to have a history with inventors. I too been pondering the parts needed to re-build a smaller version of the Keppe motor or the "dare I mention his name" Newman motor.
As a "hobbyist" my builds are basic learning tools and enjoyment. Therefore you can deduct my level of training in this field. I always read and digest your post. Some post here l just ignore. It would be great if someone started, like marathonman did, a thread that allows only serious builders. I've no idea how or the temperament to do such.

Thanks Duncan always for good insights,
Good info Vidbid.

[vidbid]

Broken Segments

Getting back on track.

I have also redesigned the brushes setup for optimizing the current flow and this has given me the result showed in the scope pictures above. The secret of a good tuning reside in the brushes slope above the surface of the broken segments. The brushes must FLY ABOVE the surface of these contacts, like the R/W heads of a hard disk drive used in computers. The lower gap must be adjusted for obtaining some very weak sparks at the running voltage and the slope of the brush must be very gradual. So, by this way, you build up an gradual spark gap Vs the angle of rotation. The positive current will be considerably reduced and the negative current flow will be amplified.....

The speed is now 500 RPM at 626 Volts and the interesting effect noticed, is that the MOTOR RUN ITSELF FOR about 4 mn 30 sec AFTER that the power supply has been switched off. In the previous version (v1.3) my Newman's machine, has stopped after 1 mn maximum. This mean that the average current flow in this new version (v1.4) is very very weak in spite of the apparent mechanical power generated.

Source: http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/NMac0629.htm

The above quote is an example of about what we have to work with, IMHO.

So, stay on target. Maybe the Newman (Biss) Motor works, but then again maybe not, but if you can get it to charge batteries, then I would say it's worth a try.

[vidbid]

The key video is the test result. And Jnaudin clearly stated that he
could not conclude that it was OU. He stated that he was still testing.

The rest is the same rehash about how many ways he tried it.

I like the fact that you compile video's and collect things up
putting them together. In the end the test result is best, then work
backwards from there if a conclusion can be positive.

Jnaudin said he needed a better scope or something like that and never
validated Newman motors. I write this for those who look at the graph
thinking it is a done did OU machine.

Scopes and data are not the final test. The only way to prove these
type of devices it to loop one back. Some of them ran for minutes and
some for days in every case over a 50 year period.

I am not saying OU can not be had, I am saying that the Newman
motor must not have been shared in it's entirety because Newman wanted
to milk out his flim flam years, tempting investors with a mere $100,000
dollar package that he said would revolutionized the globe.

It is estimated that after years of pitching the sales of his motors that
Newman took in millions (after lawyer fees)from those who would write
it off on their income tax anyway.

Newman was a smooth talker and using his education the knowledge
of the law in fine print kept him in the clear regardless. Got to read the
fine print while your ears are ringing from the high pressure sales.

Suckin in and blow'em out. It is no different than any get rich scheme.

You are fool enough to get sucked in then the judge is there to laugh.

That is why Newman mixed his Bible talking points in with his motor
sales, buyers forgive easy when they are being command to.

Very improper to say the least. I have seen all these Newman Bible
messages before but forgot about them all. He stole and idea that
probably works and suckered as many as he could.

Someone already has it working by now but they don't call it a Newman
motor, it is more like JB window motor.

This is the video where he says that 50 men all working together
came up with the first OU device and over many years this machine
was born.

In other words 50 men took 1 year to make a device that was very
little OU, so 50 years into the future and after many years like say
10-15 year this machine was created so 500 - 700 years into the
future.

See the power of unity? It can bring OVER UNITY.




[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG1DXscWG9E[/VIDEO]

I was hoping we could keep this thread free of the QEG. I see now that that hope was in vain.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1BInIh_mRQ[/VIDEO]

Free Energy Machine ? Scam ? from Witts.ws - QEG ? Scam ? inspired model ? - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1BInIh_mRQ

I have no faith in the QEG, at all.

Stephan Hartmann explained how you-know-who could have faked the entire demonstration, but that doesn't mean that what they copied from "Space Chicken" didn't work.