Self-induction

[Mario]

I find the following points interesting...

• When the coils are fired. (TDC North poles 5 times per rotation)
• The shape of the magnet, its field, its corner spins.
• The coil, its field, its corner spins.
• The relation of the corner spins of the rotor magnets to the corner spins of the stator coils.
• Where the rotor is when the switch releases.
• The winding direction of the coils, and the inner connections between coils.
• Number of turns per coil = 2206 of 18AWG * 10 coils yields roughly 5 Henry.
• The 3° pitch of the rotor, and its relation to the corner spins of the rotor magnets and stator coils.

Regards

Steve, I have no idea about the ferris wheel. Other than having seen posts and a few picture about it I've never analysed it. I know it has 3 big coils at the bottom and more coils at the centre which seem to be what you are showing in the pic. I have no idea whether they are used as genny coils or are pulsed or both… I also have no idea of their winding direction or inner connection, pitch or magnet/coil corner spins and magnet layout and shape.

From the info in your previous posts my speculation is that they're bifilar to become "coilpacitors" and get some sort of resonant thing going with only a short pulse from the battery…

regards,
Mario

[erfinder]

If I understand what you are postulating, and I believe I do, it could make a significant difference in the 3BGS setup whether the motor is placed between the positive or between the negatives. When you look at the direction of current flow in a potentialized system such as this and consider the motor to be just coils of wire located between a higher potential and a lower potential, you want the flow to be in a specific direction through those coils. It then also matters which wire of the motor is connected to the two batteries in series, as these motors were designed to run in a specific direction. These are some things that should be taken into account as we set up a working 3BGS system, and I doubt most people who have tried it have ever considered these. If the motor puts out energy as a generator in a specific direction (either down the + line or the - line) if you have the motor facing the wrong way, that energy would be going to the wrong battery. You have certainly given me several things to consider about the 3BGS setup that I will carry over to a post on that thread for consideration.

Dave

Hello Dave,

As this is your area, and I have done no homework, I can only say we are related, the potential difference situation is not so clear cut in my situation. Thinking about it, setting up a gradient sounds like something that I might want to try when I get a few more concrete answers to some of my unanswered questions, doing so may assist in closing the gap between our projects.

I look forward to the results of your tests, I expect to learn as much from them as you will.

Regards
Steve

[Mario]

Hi Steve,

The energiser or magneto has been in my mind for a long time too, I have done quite a few experiments over the last years in trying to understand the principles behind it, and if they are related to the kromrey effect or resonance or something else. What you present now seems to be a new aspect, to me at least, which I find very interesting. But I feel I still miss a few informations about the setup you're talking about, probably because I don't have EFV 23 (I've ordered it though) and don't know how the magneto in question is connected.

• What do you drive it with? External motor, SG or with a pulse directly to the magneto coils at TDC?
• How is the source (battery?) back-charged, just from pulsing the magneto coils?
• Are you collecting the collapse too?
  
• Are the magnets in N-S-N-S arrangement?
• What did you mean by internal connection, series bifilar?

If the mags are N-S-N-S from an all electric point of view the coils operate in phase. They are not in phase magnetically though, which would mean that the coils attract each other.

sorry for all the questions, but in order to understand or even replicate I need the info… thanks.

regards,
Mario

[erfinder]

This is a machine that I call the

Orthogonal Hybrid - Generation 2.

This machine utilizes an advanced version of the connection method that has been presented. The term "advanced" denotes the additional connections necessary to maintain the desired effects at low resistance and inductance.

Here + to + and - to - is taken a step further.


Regards

[erfinder]

Hi Steve,

The energiser or magneto has been in my mind for a long time too, I have done quite a few experiments over the last years in trying to understand the principles behind it, and if they are related to the kromrey effect or resonance or something else. What you present now seems to be a new aspect, to me at least, which I find very interesting. But I feel I still miss a few informations about the setup you're talking about, probably because I don't have EFV 23 (I've ordered it though) and don't know how the magneto in question is connected.
You said it can be overdriven. What do you drive it with? External motor, SG or with a pulse directly to the magneto coils at TDC? How is the source (battery?) back-charged, just from pulsing the magneto coils? Are you collecting the collapse too?

Also, I still don't know for sure, are the magnets in N-S-N-S arrangement? If so from an all electric point of view the coils operate in phase. They are not in phase magnetically though, which would mean that the coils attract each other.

You were talking about internal connections of the coils, what do you mean, are they bifilar series connected?

sorry for all the questions, but in order to understand or even replicate I need the info… thanks.

regards,
Mario

Edit this post Mario, use bullets, one bullet per point of interest. This way, when I start pointing things out, you an check them off your list. Understand what I mean?

Regards
Steve

[erfinder]

So, thats it
Regards

[barbosi]

All students in electricity have been told that Resonance is one unique thing given by L and C of circuit (they have an unique formula for it too). Pretty much like in Catholic faith, marriage is unique, one lifetime thing, and don't even think otherwise because is bad for you.

However, the branch of Physics - Mechanics, do not have the same limitation and as demonstration I invite you to look at this (most interesting in second part - Test 2):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvsoDJSaq1Q

It is my opinion and I may be way wrong, but what I think Erfinder wants to demonstrate is that multiple resonance points can be achieved in electric circuits. That is my impression, going beyond a topology of circuit or another.

If that is the case, one could only wonder what results can be achieved when multiple resonant frequencies could play together in harmony...

[Mario]

Edit this post Mario, use bullets, one bullet per point of interest. This way, when I start pointing things out, you an check them off your list. Understand what I mean?

Regards
Steve

Steve, re-edited

[erfinder]

Steve, re-edited

[citfta]

Multiple resonance is not a new idea.

Hi barbosi,

I am not sure where you got the idea that all students of electricity are taught there is only one resonant frequency for a circuit. I was most certainly not taught that. Any of the older ham radio operators that actually had to learn the theory before getting their license knew that a transmitter could very easily transmit on more than one frequency and precautions had to be taken to prevent you from accidentally transmitting a signal that was outside the amateur bands. All tuned circuits have a primary frequency and can also resonate at harmonics of that frequency. And at the same time. This is not some big secret that has been hidden.

I am not saying that resonance doesn't have some interesting properties as it most certainly does. I am only saying the idea of multiple resonance points in the same circuit is not something new or something that has been hidden.

All students in electricity have been told that Resonance is one unique thing given by L and C of circuit (they have an unique formula for it too). Pretty much like in Catholic faith, marriage is unique, one lifetime thing, and don't even think otherwise because is bad for you.

Respectfully, Carroll

[barbosi]

I am not sure where you got the idea that all students of electricity are taught there is only one resonant frequency for a circuit. I was most certainly not taught that....
Respectfully, Carroll

My assumption was based on formula:


Again as usual, assumptions are often wrong. In this case, mine was wrong.
I am happy to know there are individuals here who know their field and can assist on removing the errors.

Thank you and gladly accept the correction.

[erfinder]

Hi Steve,
The energiser or magneto has been in my mind for a long time too, I have done quite a few experiments over the last years in trying to understand the principles behind it, and if they are related to the kromrey effect or resonance or something else. What you present now seems to be a new aspect, to me at least, which I find very interesting. But I feel I still miss a few informations about the setup you're talking about, probably because I don't have EFV 23 (I've ordered it though) and don't know how the magneto in question is connected.

Regards

[garrypm]

Hi Steve,

It is strange that for the last 2 months I have been messing with my pulse
motor using the diodes as you depict in your last post.

My findings to this point are -

* the voltage average (+ rail) seems to pulse and read higher
* my scope shows 2x to 3x higher voltages
* power consumption increases and rpms rise dramatically
* my mechanical switching goes into overdrive

I've even tried to pull output from this increased + rail.

Still, what comes out (bemf) seems to go inline with that which is input.

I took the idea for the diodes coming from the supply from the magnacoaster patents.

Think I'll pop up a small video.

Cheers, Garry

[Mario]

Steve, thanks for clarifying. Correct me if I'm wrong, we could run the magneto like a motor directly with pulses and it wouldn't consume anything or even charge back. Or we could have a separate motor drive the magneto as a generator which would put out energy without putting drag on the motor.

regards,
Mario

[Duncan]

Hello Shylo,

You and I are in the same boat, I'm not qualified to post either . I'm not kidding, everything I am saying is based purely on speculation. Not going to come over well with many I'm sure, the only thing that will save me, with select few of those participating in this discussion, is the fact that I have invested the time and resources on a few experiments which support the speculation? Anyway better to be honest with myself and others now than to be called out later.... right?

Two coils. I appreciate your question because its one of the first that I asked. Here is what I have come to see. What I did was I studied one coil at a time. Its hard work trying to see whats there. We have so many individuals informing us how things should be seen, we rarely listen to ourselves. I could only make proper relations between two coils when I had a better understanding of whats going on in one coil.



The image illustrates what we have come to recognize as reality, that which is sold as fact. I won't argue as to whether it is a true representation of whats there or not, what could I offer other than an opinion anyway, and what value would this opinion have to one who sees something totally different?

Using arrows versus lines changes how I perceive whats going on in the field. If fields cancel, the following questions come up:

• Why do they cancel?
• Where do they cancel?

I haven't been able to answer these questions. The use of the arrows threw everything out of whack and I was forced to begin to see things a little differently. The simple use of arrows enabled me to observe in my tests that the fields between turns either organize and manifest the effect we call repulsion, or they organize and manifest the effect that we call attraction (neutralization) its not black and white. Attraction isn't neutralization, with magnets in hand we say attraction, but when the same effect happens between turns in windings we say neutralization? One day we may receive a real shock, when we realize that we misinterpreted the entire concept, the force which we identify with as being attraction doesn't exist, and neither does its opposite. This change in perspective would have no bearing on the physical actions taking place between the objects being observed.

Lots of words I know, please forgive me for that, the question you asked could have been responded to with less fluff...I am putting together a simple two coil presentation that I hope will shed a little more light on how I see the interaction between coils. When the video is finished I will let you know.

Again wonderful question, no straight answer, but as I said in the beginning .....speculation!



Regards

They cancel in harmonics or can be made cumulative in overtones at resonance . And only at resonance , the contrivances of the bedini wheels and various motors and contraptions which touch this resonance state however briefly make use of it.
At resonance a transformation occures as a typical and well known example electricity (which your talking about) becomes a radio wave … try turning a switch on and off near a radio , you'll hear it.
Electricity at resonance is changed to something completely and totally different. In this case the electromagnetic wave . So you all talk of resonance and then use principles that no longer apply, to anything that has gone through transformation, It is no longer electricity!!! resonance is the embodiment of this law
of Berties

Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another

Its different stuff do you see? It seems to me a least, as if you are applying the laws of hydraulics to a gas. you all seem as mad as hatters to me . Glance at the picture below it is the front of an old book of mine portraying the electromagnetic wave .



I remind you that always must come into being at resonance , do you see how its portrayed erfinder? Its at 90 deg to electricity . Ergo its in a different dimension, It is what you would call perhaps an imaginary number or perhaps a J operator or i operator depending on your flavour of schooling.
Now look at your picture that you Oh so badly want the answer to , turn the wheels through 90deg
which of course is what resonance does … as I have just been at great lengths to explain.
There are as you well know erfinder two types of resonance series and parallel hence the wheels can be turned 90deg one way or 90deg the other . What you once knew in another life as EMF and back EMF are now two separate entities that can be added , subtracted,or cancelled just as you might wish. In addition mode the electrostatic wave is transformed to magnetic current. It only then remains to convert the result back into usable energy by reversing the process.
It is then series resonance we are specifically interested in … after all that's what's driving you up the wall isn't it? You have a machine COP>1 and don't understand why, well at 180 deg to the radio wave is Teslas wireless . ( that's the wheels in addition) Its denied , Its existence is denied, all the maths and science associated with it is fudged, obfuscated, omitted or denied.
The existence of the longitudinal wave is denied as well as its overtone structure. Overtones themselves are denied confused with music and confounded as far as electrical work is concerned.
Right back to Bertie's conspiracy with lorentz and the 'force law' which should have been called the 'forced law' because the bloody thing was forced on everybody. Look at it! …. here it is here's the lies and stinking filth still being taught !!.. to the next generation of suckers .

HyperPhysics

look at the electrostatic force … where is its B force ? Where is the vector ? Its there all right its obvious as soon as you tune to series resonance …. Its missed out , just not there, tptb wanted that force for their own use, and still do! In due course when the truth will out .. as it always does. Why they'll just say … Its a miracle whoever would have guessed that was there. can't you smell and see the trickery?