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[Ufopolitics]

Who is dumbing out WHO?

While moving in the magnet produces 1/4 sinewave, while moving out 3/4 sine is produced.
The enlightening miracles of magnets....

Above Statement is COMPLETELY WRONG.

If the experiment is done properly, meaning using EXACTLY the same Speed when going In as when going Out, then the result is IDENTICAL in Magnitude between Positive and Negative Peaks.

There are several experiments that have been done with precision and accurate equipment like Balanced Pendulums, Balanced non magnetic springs, reciprocating mechanisms that do it exactly at same rate of speed that prove both action-reactions are identical.

You are NOT Enlightening absolutely NADA.

On the contrary You are CONFUSING people who read your above post and so sure "wrong statement"

Is that the same "accurate" approach you are using to display your Thread info?.

Why don't you stop blah-blah-ing in that endless thread and come to the point?
Show us your OU-machine, or tell us how it is done.
Short and simple.
Stop wasting everybodies time and stop dumbing down others.


Ernst.

I will ask you EXACTLY the same thing as you did above...

Plus...

How many more ..."ere many generations pass..." til we all see your final OU Machine...or your "Wheelwork Machine from Nature"?

Should we all wait for more "Cosmic Rays"?

Or maybe wait a bit more so Earth becomes Hotter?...maybe then we could convert that heat into electricity?

Maybe to cool us all off... Uh?

I am waiting for that "Final Disclosure"...

[Ernst]

While moving in the magnet produces 1/4 sinewave, while moving out 3/4 sine is produced.
The enlightening miracles of magnets....

Why don't you stop blah-blah-ing in that endless thread and come to the point?
Show us your OU-machine, or tell us how it is done.
Short and simple.
Stop wasting everybodies time and stop dumbing down others.


Ernst.

[bistander]

Reason

Bistander,

Why do you come here to cry like a Baby?

I responded to you there (on my Thread) it was a DARN missed DETAIL on those small graphs!!

Did not know you were so picky when looking at an obvious and typical VXTime Sinewave Graph!!

Anyways, no biggie, it took me minutes to repair such a HUGE DEAL.

LOOK:







Now, do I have to explain to you also, that the green arrows mean movement direction...or displacement of the magnetic field N-S?

Is it ok in green color?

Or should I paint also a trailing dotted line to reflect movement?

So you came here, to the Energetic Forum Sensationalist Gossip & Entertainment Thread...to "complaint" to your "double" Cifta?


Here is my opinion:




Have a good one


Ufopolitics

The real huge difference between You Two (You, Bistander and Cifta) is that "tomorrow" I can build and upload a beautiful You Tube Video, in 3D Animated Graphs in Billions of colors...where there is absolutely NO ROOM for ANY misunderstandings...

Hi there Ufo,

I came here to get another opinion about that statement of yours. It appeared that you didn't want me posting more about it on that thread even threatening to tell Aaron. But I'm glad you showed up over here and posted those graphics. I've taken another look at them. You're all worried about arrowhead color and bragging about your fine artwork when you should be spending more time assuring the content is correct. In my opinion there are serious issues. But, as I have said, I don't want to get into it with you.

Regards,

bi

[Ufopolitics]

Bistander came here to cry and complain to his Double Cifta about me...LOL

Isn't it logical to assume if someone says it was the same as before except in this way, that it wasn't that way before in that particular aspect?

So he graphs an experiment and doesn't label the abscissa. Then does another experiment and says this is like the previous one BUT as a function of time. That implies the first experiment was NOT a function of time, doesn't it?

It is difficult to figure out the logic, or lack of, that he uses.

bistander

Bistander,

Why do you come here to cry like a Baby?

I responded to you there (on my Thread) it was a DARN missed DETAIL on those small graphs!!

Did not know you were so picky when looking at an obvious and typical VXTime Sinewave Graph!!

Anyways, no biggie, it took me minutes to repair such a HUGE DEAL.

LOOK:







Now, do I have to explain to you also, that the green arrows mean movement direction...or displacement of the magnetic field N-S?

Is it ok in green color?

Or should I paint also a trailing dotted line to reflect movement?

So you came here, to the Energetic Forum Sensationalist Gossip & Entertainment Thread...to "complaint" to your "double" Cifta?


Here is my opinion:




Have a good one


Ufopolitics

The real huge difference between You Two (You, Bistander and Cifta) is that "tomorrow" I can build and upload a beautiful You Tube Video, in 3D Animated Graphs in Billions of colors...where there is absolutely NO ROOM for ANY misunderstandings...

[bistander]

Negative logic?

Here is the same experiments shown before, but as a Function of Time...:

Ufo,

So the above statement infers that the experiments shown before were not a function of time, therefore one would assume they were a function of space or position (referring to post #691). ...

bi

Isn't it logical to assume if someone says it was the same as before except in this way, that it wasn't that way before in that particular aspect?

So he graphs an experiment and doesn't label the abscissa. Then does another experiment and says this is like the previous one BUT as a function of time. That implies the first experiment was NOT a function of time, doesn't it?

It is difficult to figure out the logic, or lack of, that he uses.

bistander

[Dave45]

I froze one that i didnt document, wished i had. I lined the container with screen wire completely with an e core choke inside, essentially a faraday cage filled the container and froze it without power to the coil, the container expanded an busted and the faraday cage had a small tear in it, I then powered up the coil and put the container back in the freezer.
After about an hour I checked the container and from the tear to the choke there was what looked as best I can describe it a lightning bolt.

This is another reason I think the ambient or aether or whatever you want to call it is fueling the eddy currents.

[citfta]

Thanks Chet for the kind words. I does mean a lot to me that some people appreciate my efforts to help.

Dave, I remember when I first saw those. I thought that was a pretty neat idea to freeze water while a coil was energized. The difference between AC and DC is interesting. Thanks for posting those.

Carroll

[RAMSET]

a true asset to this community

Carroll
your worth your weight in gold around these forums !
@ Dave
always luved your frozen coil work !

respectfully

Chet K

[Dave45]

This coil was powered with 12v dc
Notice the straight lines around the edges it formed a hexagon, like in a honeycomb.

[Dave45]

Im using a tablet and cant post pics for some reason.
I will keep trying

Finally this coil was powered using 12v ac, the eddy currents are clearly visible.

[Allen Burgess]

Subatomic particles.

Transundulationism:

[Dave45]

Basic Concepts | Olympus IMS
When i froze the coils in water you could see the eddy currents they are there along with the magnetic field.

[citfta]

Thanks for all the replies and I do appreciate those that have shown support for my efforts to help. It appears only one poster has a problem with someone trying to help so I will continue to help and ignore the attacks and name calling from those that are trying to hide the truth.

Dave45, feel free to post in this thread about any project either on this forum or not. Just remember this thread covers a lot of topics and your project will get buried in the discussion fairly quickly sometimes. If you want to have an extended discussion about a particular project it is probably better to just start a new thread for that project.

Also Dave45 here is a link to a discussion about coil collapse or inductive kickback. You may find some of this discussion helpful in learning about inductive kickback.

Inductive Kickback

I don't recall anyone connecting the idea of eddy currents being the source of the magnetic field generated by a coil. I will have to think about that idea some more before I can give an opinion on that. If I didn't understand correctly what you meant by that please correct me.

Respectfully to all,
Carroll

[Matthew Jones]

As most of you know if you have been around a while I had given up on this forum for several reasons. Then I was asked to come back so I have been back a few months and nothing has changed all that much. One of the reasons I left was because of the attitude of some of the members of this forum. There are some still around that don't want to be told they might be wrong about what they think they understand.

I was blessed with the opportunity to actually get to work in a field I really enjoyed. That was the area of electronic troubleshooting. I was an industrial maintenance electrician for over 30 years. I loved that job and its challenges.

What really bothers me about this forum is there are those that insist on posting things that I know are just plain wrong. Now I don't care too much if the poster insists on believing whatever but what bothers me is there are those that really do want to learn. So how can they know what to believe when they see so much foolishness posted. I have tried in the past to explain why what was posted was wrong and sometimes it was accepted and understood in the way I had hoped it would be. But many times I have been accused of being a naysayer and sometimes much worse for trying to help. Anyone that has taken the time to read some of my posts would know immediately that I do believe OU may be possible. I have even seen with my own eyes a couple of things I thought might be genuine events of OU.

So what is a person who has a strong background in electronics supposed to do when they see foolishness posted? Do you just ignore it and hope it doesn't lead too many people astray? Or do you try to help by pointing out the mistakes made by the poster or video or whatever is being presented? How can you help without coming across as a know-it-all as I was just called in another thread on this forum? I do know there are several members of this forum that are sincerely trying to learn and are open to help. But there are also some here that will put down anyone that tries to correct mistaken ideas. So what is the answer?

Please keep your comments civil with no name calling.

Respectfully,
Carroll

You just warn them about the clown they are dealing with and hope for the best. Most people who do nothing get everything wrong anyway.

Matt

[Dave45]

I did some experiments where i placed a coil in water and froze the water with the coil energized, the eddy currents were visible but at the time i didnt know what they were. I froze one that was air core and one that was iron core, the air core had visible eddy currents in the ice but the iron core coil showed no eddy currents outside the coil, this puzzled me untill i realized the iron core was pulling the eddy currents tight against the core.

I wonder if the power we send through the coil is creating the magnetic field does it also feul the eddy currents or does the ambient fuel the eddy currents, when the magnetic field collapses the polarity of the coil changes i believe this is an indication that the ambient is fueling the eddy currents.