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  • Farmhand
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    Yeah the first one in your quote is probed accross the the supply lines feeding a SS thats triggering the SSG in the second one which is connected to the same supply lines, the second one is the SSG collector emmiter waveform, it just starts working by turning it on without spinning the rotor and the current draw can be adjusted while the frequency stays the same as the SS, if the base resistance is reduced too far the SSG frequency halves.

    The scope was set to Vertical Gain ATT 1/10 Those two shots were taken a while ago not from the present setup they were drawing power from a transformer, bridge and 4000 uf cap, but that's what it looks like. In my present setup there is another diode back at the panel. So before that i don't know what it looks like.

    I noticed when the SSG in switched on there are some small spikes in the supply line.

    Anyway I want to feed the spikes in while the panels are also charging (Like the first shot of my first post) but my concern is that the spikes may go right through the battery and back to the panel negative or is that just silly.

    Cheers

    Oh yeah the first shot in my first post has the vertical gain turned up as well. And using the SS like that it also causes the scr to commutate I think.
    Last edited by Farmhand; 10-08-2010, 03:28 PM.

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  • John_K
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    Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
    Oh yeah the SS drawing power will also trigger an SG connected to the supply line's and the wave form then looks like this.

    http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/...S_2.JPG?psid=1

    Which makes the SG waveform look like this.

    http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/...plt.JPG?psid=1

    The possibilities are many it seems.

    Regards
    Hi Farmhand,

    Can you please describe where in the circuit you are taking the waveforms? Also the scope settings would help.



    John K.

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  • Bit's-n-Bytes
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    Originally posted by Bit's-n-Bytes View Post
    I will also post an updated schematic to include "sensing".

    Thanks.

    Jeff
    Here is the updated schematic.

    Thanks

    Jeff
    Last edited by Bit's-n-Bytes; 11-17-2010, 01:26 AM.

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  • Farmhand
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    Oh yeah the SS drawing power will also trigger an SG connected to the supply line's and the wave form then looks like this.

    http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/...S_2.JPG?psid=1

    Which makes the SG waveform look like this.

    http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/...plt.JPG?psid=1

    The possibilities are many it seems.

    Regards

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  • Farmhand
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    Sorry about the spelling mistakes in the last post but it won't let me edit.

    Anyway I can also get a zigzag wave form but I can't remember how I did it and the pics are on the computer that went down.

    Are any of these setups in the above post likely to ruin the panels with spikes? I can't work it out so i won't do it anymore.

    Thanks.

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  • Farmhand
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    output waveforms

    Hi all, What kind of waveform are we looking for in a solar setup with SS, I get best results from a trifiler Simple SS drawing power from befor a diode and delivering spikes from the bridge bakck in after the diode but i'm worried if it could harm the panels I have three waveforms.

    This is the setup described above SCR on negative line.

    This is with a bifiler charging a separate battery, dreawing from the cap.

    And this is with cap pulser on trifiler feeding in after the diode.

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  • John_K
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    Hey Jeff,

    My latest effort is to also use a 330uF 450V as C3, but pulse this into the series caps until they are full and then dump the caps into the battery.

    Still working on a way to use a SS SG front end running off solar.



    John K.

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  • Bit's-n-Bytes
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    Originally posted by Bhargav View Post
    Hey Jeff,
    Thanks for the part specs . Ok , i did a bit of shopping today . Couldnt find the below parts :

    C3 35,000uf 35V - Is there a hard set rule for uf/V rating . How much can i deviate

    C6 35,000uf 50V - How much can i deviate on the uf/V rating

    D1 STPS8H100D --- bought MUR8100e(datasheet attached... is this OK?? )

    T1 273-1365A --- datasheet attached :says 12VAC output , 450ma transformer with 120Vac input . But the schematic says 56 Vac output . Is something amiss or the circuit setup in schematic right??

    I got the 4A rated bridge . I guess this is enough ...

    I did find rest of the components

    Do let me know your thoughts when you find time ...

    Regards,
    Bhargav
    I will also post an updated schematic to include "sensing".

    Thanks.

    Jeff

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  • Bit's-n-Bytes
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    Originally posted by Bhargav View Post
    Hey Jeff,
    Thanks for the part specs . Ok , i did a bit of shopping today . Couldnt find the below parts :

    C3 35,000uf 35V - Is there a hard set rule for uf/V rating . How much can i deviate You can deviate alot, in fact I am getting better results using a 350uf 350V cap at the moment, just watch the output volts do not exceed the caps rating.

    C6 35,000uf 50V - How much can i deviate on the uf/V ratingNot really needed unless you are feeding AC

    D1 STPS8H100D --- bought MUR8100e(datasheet attached... is this OK?? )I can only recommend what I have tested

    T1 273-1365A --- datasheet attached :says 12VAC output , 450ma transformer with 120Vac input . But the schematic says 56 Vac output . Is something amiss or the circuit setup in schematic right??Nothing amiss, check how I have turned it around in the circuit, primary becomes secondary

    I got the 4A rated bridge . I guess this is enough ...That should work

    I did find rest of the components Happy building!

    Do let me know your thoughts when you find time ...

    Regards,
    Bhargav
    See above.

    Jeff

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  • Bhargav
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    Gone Shopping

    Hey Jeff,
    Thanks for the part specs . Ok , i did a bit of shopping today . Couldnt find the below parts :

    C3 35,000uf 35V - Is there a hard set rule for uf/V rating . How much can i deviate

    C6 35,000uf 50V - How much can i deviate on the uf/V rating

    D1 STPS8H100D --- bought MUR8100e(datasheet attached... is this OK?? )

    T1 273-1365A --- datasheet attached :says 12VAC output , 450ma transformer with 120Vac input . But the schematic says 56 Vac output . Is something amiss or the circuit setup in schematic right??

    I got the 4A rated bridge . I guess this is enough ...

    I did find rest of the components

    Do let me know your thoughts when you find time ...

    Regards,
    Bhargav
    Attached Files
    Last edited by Bhargav; 10-07-2010, 03:26 PM. Reason: forgot attachments :)

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  • Bit's-n-Bytes
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    Originally posted by Bhargav View Post
    Hello Bits,
    I want to replicate the Inverter 2 cap pulser as is. I got hold of the schematic you posted in the thread but cant seem to find the component values post . I clearly remember seeing the post but simply cant find them ... shouldnt be astonishing considering the size of this thread though

    The idea is to use the pulsinator in the back end of the window motor circuit to pulse the CEMF into a second battery . Now there is a gang of four university students looking for an interesting project for their final year engineering project and i think the pulsinator could be a great project for them . Can you please help out with component specifications and any other tips ???

    Thanks,
    Bhargav
    Bhargav, thanks. I will get you the component list here shortly.

    1n4001-Q1 1n4001
    1n4001-Q5 1n4001
    C1 0.33uf
    C2 0.1uf
    C3 35,000uf 35V
    C4 10,000uf 35V
    C5 10,000uf 35V
    C6 35,000uf 50V
    Cap-Q1 1.0uf
    Cap-Q5 1.0uf
    D1 STPS8H100D
    D2 1N5408
    D3 STPS8H100D
    D4 Bridge
    D5 1N5408
    D6 STPS8H100D
    D9 STPS8H100D
    DB9
    J1
    J2
    J3
    LED1 Red
    LED2 Red
    LED3 Red
    LED4 Red
    Q1 MJL21194
    Q2 MJL21194
    Q3 MJL21193
    Q4 MJL21194
    Q5 MJL21194
    Q6 MJL21194
    Q7 MJL21193
    Q8 MJL21194
    R1 120K 1/4 watt
    R2 10k 1/2 Watt
    R3 10k 1/4 Watt
    R4 22k 1/4 Watt
    R5 330R 1/4 Watt
    R6 330R 1/4 Watt
    R7 100 Ohm 1/4 Watt
    R8 100 Ohm 1/4 Watt
    R9 10K pot
    SW1 Reset E28
    T1 273-1365A
    U1 PICAXE-18X
    U3 LM7805
    U-Q1 H11d1
    U-Q3 H11d1
    U-Q5 H11d1
    U-Q7 H11d1


    Jeff
    Last edited by Bit's-n-Bytes; 10-05-2010, 08:38 PM. Reason: list attached

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  • Bhargav
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    Inverter 2 cap pulser

    Hello Bits,
    I want to replicate the Inverter 2 cap pulser as is. I got hold of the schematic you posted in the thread but cant seem to find the component values post . I clearly remember seeing the post but simply cant find them ... shouldnt be astonishing considering the size of this thread though

    The idea is to use the pulsinator in the back end of the window motor circuit to pulse the CEMF into a second battery . Now there is a gang of four university students looking for an interesting project for their final year engineering project and i think the pulsinator could be a great project for them . Can you please help out with component specifications and any other tips ???

    Thanks,
    Bhargav

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  • John_K
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    Originally posted by slloyd View Post
    been away for a long while.. trying to catch up on all the messages. wondering if someone might post a summary of knowledge for the tesla switch to date. link to the "official" schematic etc. that would be greatly appreciated.

    slloyd
    Hey Sonny,

    Welcome back to the party LOL!

    If only it was that easy. The past few months has seen a lot of people drop off, or go into a different direction. AFAIK, there is no "official schematic", but there have been several spin-offs posted that are based on the "original" schematics that were on JB's pages.

    Personally, I've been working closely with a couple of the guys on this thread on TS based circuits that also incorporate several other Bedini based circuits and concepts. Basically, I'm trying to make the best use of a solar panel to charge batteries - including "low light" conditions where the PV panel is outputting very little.



    John K.

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  • slloyd
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    been away for a long while.. trying to catch up on all the messages. wondering if someone might post a summary of knowledge for the tesla switch to date. link to the "official" schematic etc. that would be greatly appreciated.

    slloyd

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  • Matthew Jones
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    Originally posted by ldissing View Post
    Thx Matt.

    I've read this page RADIANT ELECTRICITY about 20 times recently and always get more ideas from reading it. A relay produces the same sparking that Tesla is talking about, no?
    Matt, you generated the blue lightning with the point contact that you were using on your wheel....I'm thinking we must come up with something to utilize this energy...and redirect it back into our systems.
    I've come up with a circuit...playing with it some more to redirect energy back to the front end of a SSG (or other system) and will continue to work on it...the shuttling of energy.
    Been quiet out there in EF land.
    Leroy
    Your talking about the simple motor in my video.
    The blue spark shows up in point contacts when you are not discharging the coil into a charge battery. It a regular spark. I don't think its anything like what talked about in the article.

    Matt

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